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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:22 PM
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Poll question: After the Biden pick, can McCain afford a pro-Choice nominee?
Obama's choice of Great Democrat Joe Biden may have forced McCain's hand while narrowing his shortlist for the GOP vice presidential nomination.

Obama's selection of Biden may make it more/less likely that McCain will choose a pro-Choice nominee. Also, the Biden choice may make it more/less likely that McCain wil choose a fundie-friendly nominee.

Of the already pathetic roster of options available to McCain, which do you think most likely to be named?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:25 PM
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1. I dunno. I know he was testing the idea out recently but
I think he may have too much trouble with a base that's not crazy about him to start with to take the chance...
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:26 PM
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2. What an empty list. . There's nothing there. . . n/t
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:27 PM
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3. I bet if you showed that list to most Americans they'd say "Who?"
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:27 PM
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4. I predict that McCain will
call up Romney and say "here, YOU run! I'm outta here!"
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:33 PM
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10. LOL! Romney's probably locked himself in the bathroom, sobbing
and wailing.
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:41 PM
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17. And more than likely...
...soiling his holy underwear :rofl:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:45 PM
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20. Mitt thought he had outgrown these "accidents," but under the
heat of public scrutiny and after imagining himself trying to debate Joe Biden, the episodic soilings became more and more frequent.

- - -

I will say this for Romney. He only has had one wife. McCain and Giuliani, his early rivals for the nom, have had what -- 6 or 8 between them? Something like that.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:29 PM
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5. He has painted himself into the proverbial CORNER
Confused and bewildered...the Camp Cain is undergoing therapy for being LOST in the Woods causing anxiety beyond normal...hyperventilating even...
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:30 PM
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6. I wonder which pig wants to eat at McCain's trough
Any on that list is either diseased or running the risk of ruining
their political career
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:30 PM
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7. He's boxed in
Pawlenty - a nobody that can't deliver Minnesota

Hutchinson -Gimme a break. I hope he picks her, or Palin.

Jindal -nut case and a little too dark skinned for the Repug base.

Romney - He feeds into the "out of touch" mantra nicely.

Ridge - A huge risk because of his pro choice stance, but I think that's the pick. McCain will try to cut us off at the knees in PA and roll the dice they can carry the heavy fundie states they always carry.
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:36 PM
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13. Ridge was my guess, too.
I was thinking about PA, but forgetting he was pro-choice. However, Republicans seem to have no problem changing positions or ignoring that issue when it becomes politically expedient.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:40 PM
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15. Ridge is still possible, and Pennsylvania would be a closer
race with him on the GOP ticket, but I think we'd still carry it.

I think Virginia is closer if McCain picks Cantor but I still think we upset the Pukes in Virginia this cycle.

I think he could Ohio closer with Kasich and Portman either one, but I think we still carry Ohio.

Absolutely agree on Pawlenty -- he won't carry Minnesota for McCain. There's a chance that John McCain wil win zero Great Lakes states. Indiana is the closest chance he has, IMO.

He might have to dig deep into the bag of tricks and pull out Franklin Graham. He needs a Hail Mary go-for-broke nominee who will rally the fundies.

Brownback could do it.

Or Franklin Graham.


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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:31 PM
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8. Maybe he has to pick someone more unknown to Americans
Someone who doesn't have much history. :shrug: I have no clue and I bet he's pulling his last hairs.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:47 PM
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22. Melissa Theuriau?
Oh, right. French.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:32 PM
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9. my dark horse is Meg Whitman, i'm sure i'm wrong because i usually am but i'm consistent!
he needs someone with a business background imo, no matter how bad it is.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:34 PM
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11. Is she a Republican? Is she making too much money to quit and
become a loser Republican?

I'm not that famliar with her. I just know who she is.

And hell, it might as well be her as anybody else.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:38 PM
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14. she is indeed, i'm almost sure she was a guest at the 2004 rnc circle jerk.
she was the ceo of Ebay.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:41 PM
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16. Well, yuck then. That is going to quell my interest in eBay considerably.
Shame on her!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:44 PM
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19. Do remember when Cheney told us all to stop bitching because we could all
be getting rich selling crapola on Ebay?
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:35 PM
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12. He needs the dude
who wears the magic mormon underwear.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:43 PM
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18. He's screwn.
He's got to pick Huckabee, I think, assuming Huck survives the vetting process. He can't pick a pro-choicer unless he wants to squander his Saddleback "win," and whatever confidence he's managed to garner among the fundie crowd.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:47 PM
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21. Yes. Obama generally and Obama's Biden pick currently has
forced McCain to choose a fundie-friendly veep pick, and in the process, forces the GOP to reinforce the very thing that is sucking it dry and dead -- the far-right literalist fundie nutbags.

This is sweet.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 09:17 AM
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23. Do you think McCain & his team have made their choice already?
I'm wondering if they'd made it, but now have to reconsider.

The media generally are suggesting that Romney and Pawlenty are getting heavy consideration. Maybe one of them will be chosen. Either one is going to look like a chump in the veep debate versus Biden, though.


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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:02 AM
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24. McCain cannot and will not select a pro-choice nominee. That will not happen
The so-called "pro-life" movement is an absolutely essential element of the GOP coalition on the national level.

To appoint a pro-choice nominee would shatter their coalition.

The opposition to abortion rights and the opposition to gun control have large numbers of single issue voters who consistently vote Republican for those reasons and those reasons alone.

Selecting a pro-choice V.P. nominee would be about as likely as the Democrats selecting a pro-segregationist nominee. "Pro-life" is an absolute point of moral principle to a large number of faithful Republican voters.

To run a pro-choice V.P. nominee would be to dismantle the National Republican Party in its current form.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:10 AM
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25. Less likely - Biden's choice makes it clear that Obama is prochoice (if it was needed to make this
clear), and therefore there is no point choosing a pro choice nominee.

If McCain had some guts, he would choose Jindal, who is conservative, young, dynamic, and could bring some RW minorities back to him, but, as he is a wimp, he probably will go with Pawlenty.
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