You're right. I've changed my mind on Biden.....

[lib2DaBone]

I've Been following the discussion here on DU all morning. Some very good insights. At first I was dead set against Biden because of the Banking and Iraq baggage. (First choice would have been Gen Clark or Jim Webb.) I wish it was a perfect world, but now I'm just glad it wasn't Bayh or Kaine. But under no circumstances can we let "Exxon John (8 houses) McBush" win. Within days, the Rovian Swiftboat smear team will be out in full force.... using every dirty, low-down lie and underhanded trick that they can muster. We need a VP with a big mouth, one that will shove it right back at them and not stand there and take it like Kerry did in '04. I see now that Biden is a candidate that can do that. He is an excellent speaker and can shout down the biggest fat-heads like Limbaugh and O'Reilly. Plus, he knows foreign policy, which will counter the Obama "lack of experience" argument. I just hope the Dems come out fighting this time with everything they have.. no flip-flops, no little purple band aids. Please Dems.. no more Mr. Nice Guy...... get up off the ground... wax-on ,wax-off.. eye of the tiger...etc.

[Waya]

1. I had to wrap my mind around Biden, also......

...however, after getting more info....reading up...checking out, etc, etc - Obama did good!!!

[goodgd_yall]

2. Glad you see the error of your ways

:hi:

I have had reservations (credit card vote and his occasional gaffes), but Joe Biden brings a LOT to the ticket. There is more good about Biden when you look at his voting record than there is bad.

I remember when watching the primary debates thinking how he could win in a Republican debate easily. I preferred Kucinich and then Edwards before finally conceding Obama was the best candidate. But there was a reason many people here passionately supported Joe Biden and I could see why.

I feel very happy with Obama's choice and a sense of relief that it wasn't Bayh. :-)

[Egnever]

4. Way more good than bad

Biden is tight with unions for a reason. He is a regular guy despite being one of the most powerful men in the senate.

He has a quick wit and a ton of knowledge and experience to back it up.

I would have taken him at the top of the ticket in an instant but as VP he can let his hair down a little more so I think he will actually be more effective.

He is a great senator and an awesome pick I think people who have doubts about him will come to love him fairly quickly.

[MiniMe]

3. Biden is a good pick. Obama needs somebody besides himself to shoot some of this crap down

And Biden is the guy.

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[Egnever]

6. how many names this week?

enjoy your stay :)

[scarletwoman]

7. Oh, bugger off.

[Demeter]

9. Don't Confuse Them With the Facts

For a Midwestern candidate to pick an Eastern Seaboard running mate who hasn't done anything besides the Senate for his entire life, for one Senator to pick another, shows a certain lack of inspiration or optimization or by God courage.

The Undecideds of the South and the West will be highly offended and turned off.

The odds of getting 60 seats in the Senate were just cut in half, now having to replace 2 sitting Senators instead of one.

A governor would have shut down some of the "inexperience" complaints, and would have addressed the economic situations from a frontline position of experience.

At this point, I'm thinking Hillary would have been a better choice, and I didn't think she was a good one in the first place!

I am more than willing to be proved wrong because like Cassandra, I'm tired of being right and scorned and ignored....

[lib2DaBone]

10. you do have a valid point..

RE: The Senate. But it's done now. The country is such bad shape.. I hope we can go into some type of Emergency Mode and stem the water coming into the Titanic. I just know that no matter what.. this country will not survive 4 more years if Exxon-John McBush gets in.

[Hawkeye-X]

14. The Governors will appoint both seats - they are D's.

so Biden was an excellent choice.

I wouldn't give it to Bayh due to the fact that Indiana has a Thug Gov...

Kaine - yeah, I know, but he's not ready -- ask me again in 2016.

Hawkeye-X

[Eurobabe]

12. Get the door, your pizza is here. n/t

[predfan]

8. Biden will be able to counter a common Rovian trick....................

Take for example, this morning on Morning Joe, as Joe the republican once again painted Obama as elitist (actually he'd prefer uppity) since he went to a prep school in Hawaii, and expensive schools.
Barnicle chuckled along with him. These are, you remember, the same guys who scream constantly for school vouchers, so the families who want their kids to do better can.

My kid went to school in rural Tennessee, and earned a partial scholarship to a private university. ( he's still paying back loans on THAT school.) He finished at the top of his class and was accepted to Harvard Law ( he's still paying off loans to that school, as well) He's used as an example in our local school system as what you can accomplish if you work hard, and he's recognized by his undergraduate school as an example to their students. He's worked with a plan since the 6th grade, and still has enough Tennessee in him to, if given the chance, whip Joe's ass if he called him an elitist.

Only Karl Rove, in an effort to hide the inadequacies of an underachieving frat- boy in a run for Texas Governor and U.S. President could create a scenario where the truly hard working are not considered common enough to be elected.

Give them hell, Joe.

[lib2DaBone]

13. Excellent point....

.. and that verifies or explains another post I just read here on DU about a CNN story that says that Obama left a younger brother to starve in Africa? (or something along those lines). Man.. the Rovian smear machine.. so predictable... yet the average American mentality has got to be about 12 years old to lap this stuff up?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6718335

[Zomby Woof]

11. I have been hard on Biden

Such is the nature of primaries and the Veepstakes. But I am VERY HAPPY with this choice and am VERY EXCITED about this ticket!

Obama/Biden 2008! :patriot: