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darius15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:11 PM
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Obama drops a VP Hint: Someone "not about ego"
One reason for the feverish running-mate speculation is that those who actually know anything are a small, leakproof circle. And most leakproof of all is the man who is actually making the decision.

But in an interview (you can see and hear it here) that my colleague David Von Drehle and I did earlier this week for our convention issue, Barack Obama offered some clues as to how he is approaching the decision, and--to my ear, at least--a sense that he had pretty much made up his mind.

The question I asked Obama was what his choice of a running mate would tell the country about Obama himself. Here's what he said:

Hopefully, the same thing that my campaign has told the American people about me. That I think through big decisions. I get a lot of input from a lot of people, and that ultimately, I try to surround myself with people who are about getting the job done, and who are not about ego, self—aggrandizement, getting their names in the press, but our focus on what's best for the American people.


I think people will see that I'm not afraid to have folks around me who complement my strengths and who are independent. I'm not a believer in a government of yes—men. I think one of the failures of the early Bush Administration was being surrounded by people who were unwilling to deliver bad news, or who were prone to simply feed the president information that confirmed his own preconceptions.

So let's do some deconstruction, read some tea leaves, and try to figure out who Obama is--and isn't--talking about:

I try to surround myself with people who are about getting the job done, and who are not about ego, self—aggrandizement, getting their names in the press...

Okay, so the first qualification he mentions is someone who won't be all that interested in getting his or her name in the media. That would seem a high bar for the famously voluble Joe Biden to clear.

I think people will see that I'm not afraid to have folks around me who complement my strengths...

Obama is both gifted and precise in the way he uses language. Here, interestingly, the word he chooses is "complement," not "supplement" or "augment." This would suggest that this choice will be someone who has experience or expertise that Obama himself lacks, rather than a pick--such as Bill Clinton's of Al Gore in 1992--that reinforces his message. My guess here is that is not good news for either Governor Kathleen Sebelius or Tim Kaine. Though both have executive experience that he doesn't, their chief political assets are much the same as Obama's, in that they bring an ability to blur party lines.

I'm not a believer in a government of yes—men. I think one of the failures of the early Bush Administration was being surrounded by people who were unwilling to deliver bad news, or who were prone to simply feed the president information that confirmed his own preconceptions.

This may well be the most telling part of his answer. It sounds as though he is offering a rationale for picking someone who has disagreed with him in the past on something big, and the Iraq War immediately leaps to mind.

All that put together, if I were to guess who it would be based strictly on what Obama himself has said, I would say the pick is either Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana (low profile, both executive and foreign policy experience, but a supporter of the Iraq War), or a surprise whose name has not been circulating on the pundits' short lists.

And of course, we'll know the answer soon.

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/08/obamas_vp_the_candidate_drops.html
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:14 PM
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1. guess that rules out hillary and biden?
:shrug:
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:16 PM
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3. If it doesn't rule out Biden--then Obama has a unique definition of ego...n/t
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:17 PM
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5. lol
:hi:
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:15 PM
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2. Sooo hoping for Clark. Maybe the delay in announcement is because Clark's still out of the country?
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:17 PM
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4. Well here are a few names that fit Obama's description of his running mate:
1. Caroline Kennedy
2. Brian Schweitzer
3. Wesley Clark
4. Mark Warner
5. Bob Graham
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darius15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:18 PM
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6. I think Warner ruled himself out
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:18 PM
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8. but for the good of the country...
maybe...

Richardson is a good one, too.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:18 PM
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7. I'm thinking Richardson for the Latino vote, foreign policy too I believe nt
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:25 PM
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10. yes, Richardson might be a decent option.
He definitely has very positive foreign diplomacy skills. But, the ego thing might be an issue. He can be rather pompous in my experience of him.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:56 PM
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16. I just put something together about Richardson that I'd missed before.
I am in Illinois, and Richardson was just here a few days ago for the Illinois Dem convention. He spoke at the unity brunch that morning as well. Never thought much about it at the time because Richardson is a high profile Dem and it made sense he'd be a speaker at a Dem convention, but I wonder now if that was choreographed because Richardson is "Da Man"...

Hmm...

So much speculation with no real substance to any of it, really. Obama is noted for his tight campaign--no leaks there. I honestly think nobody will know for sure until the announcement and we just have to accept that.


:shrug:



Laura
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:15 PM
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24. It would be a slam dunk for the minority vote, many Latinos are not yet registered nt
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:16 PM
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26. maybe right. Richardson does have that humbleness about him
at least that's how I see him sometime, he does not puff up and strut around and show off his wares like some pathetic other rooster we all know who is the Definition of Ego Gone Wild.

yes, Richardson fits in with Obama's description very nicely.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:23 PM
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9. That's not a hint
Like he would ever say "I want the guy I pick to be an egotistical horse's ass. That's what I'm looking for."
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:31 PM
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11. Picking Bayh after all this hoopla would be a cosmic deflation of the campaign balloon.
Dud. Ugh. :*
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:14 PM
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23. The GOP wants Bayh

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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:18 PM
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27. INSOMNIACS FOR BAYH!
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
(AND he parts his hair in the middle)
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:32 PM
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12. Doesn't that rule out everybody?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:46 PM
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14. You beat me to it!
LOL
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:59 PM
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31. haha
:rofl:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:44 PM
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13. faux "news" Just Said They Think It Means Bayh
Yeah, I had to take a BRIEF look. I'm guilty.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:48 PM
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15. On that one line ...
on the "short list" yes, it does look like Bayh ...

I don't know ... Reading a lot into it ...

I think the other line about having someone who will not just say yes, that fits Biden VERY well ... I think Biden would speak his mind flat out, but have the total respect for BO as president ... I see that in Biden ...

I also agree that it looks A LOT like Wes Clark, but there just is nothing else out there that leads to him ...
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:04 PM
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20. Please.....
You don't join the DLC, let alone become the chairman of those tools, if you don't have an ego.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:28 PM
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29. That's Okay

I look in on them from time to time myself, and use the same method that I use for examining any "poll" by "Rasmussen Reports." If there's any hint of good news or commentary for Obama, then you know he's doing very well. (Recent example: the Faux "pundits" were praising Obama's performance after Saddleback.)

Here's the key: the Thugs want Bayh. Badly. They know that he's John Edwards without the intellect (and hopefully without the adultery, but I digress). They also know that he won't move the needle in Indiana, and that he's just about the worst pick imaginable.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:02 PM
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32. Sigh... about Bayh... but gotta trust our faithful leader on this I guess nt
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:58 PM
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17. Without ego is the very definition of Wes Clark
That's the closest hint toward either Clark or Mr. X (the unexpected
"whoda thunk it?" candidate) that I have heard of so far.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 01:59 PM
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18. Jesus Tap Dancing Christ, that sounds like...
Hagel.

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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:12 PM
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21. No, Bob Graham
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:00 PM
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19. I guess it wouldn't be a politician then.
Because they're all self serving to some degree.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:13 PM
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22. Oh, well.... Hillary and Joe are out....
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:16 PM
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25. I hope it is NOT Bayh
too much like a Tony Blair
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:20 PM
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28. I can't see anyone other that Richardson...
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nbsmom Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:58 PM
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30. I don't think it's Richardson...
Or Biden, for that matter. Joe is not about change, not when he's been in D.C. since 1972, and voted for Iraq AND the Bankruptcy bill.

Bill has been less than stellar, both when he was running for President himself and more recently as an Obama surrogate. And that, boys and girls, is definitely part of this job. Somebody's gotta play bad cop, and surely the Democratic party can field better than Bill Richardson.

I _really_ hope it's not Bayh, either.

Remember, this is the guy who has been running the Dean-inspired 50-state strategy, so I find it hard to believe that his short list is made up of a couple of DLC insider guys.

He's also a basketball player. He's not just picking one position, he's filling out the whole team roster. So what role does the V.P. play? Small forward? Shooting guard? If we can figure that out, we can probably make a decent guess on not just who the V.P. will be, but who will populate the rest of an Obama administration.

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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:03 PM
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33. Romer has been mentioned, how's his ego? nt
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