So what area does Hillary shore up for Obama?

[rinsd]

Where will she help with voter demographics?

Young voters? Nope.

White men? Nope.

Working class men? Nope.

Progressives? Nope.

Older white women? She could have an impact but Obama is already leading this group (leading women quite handily).

Hispanics? Maybe.

When you also factor in her low fav/unfav numbers and her being from completely safe blue state and I do not see an advantage to bringing Hillary in as VP

[Egnever]

1. She brings 18 millions supporters!

Duh!

[rinsd]

4. VP candidates are supposed to augment the nominee and I just don't see it with her.

Clinton/Obama ticket could have been interesting in terms of his organization and ability to stump and connect with young voters being added to her strengths.

But the reverse just has too many liabilities with little potential.

[Egnever]

13. Couldnt agree more

Not to mention we now have to defend Bills earnings for the next three months instead of tearing up mcsame.

Hillary by herself might work I think it might be an even trade off with just her, maybe even a small net positive add bill in though and it goes negative pretty quickly IMHO.

[rinsd]

14. You said it even better.

The fight isn't worth it if she's not the Prez.

[butterfly77]

2. More problems ..

for him to answer and keep him off of his message...

[DrDan]

3. uh . . . . . 18 million votes?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

5. 18 million Democrats?

Covered.

[27inCali]

7. most of those 18 mill

are already going to vote for him anyways.

what about a lot of the conservative leaning indies who might vote for him but would be turned off by her?

[rinsd]

8. More like 4.5 million with some of those being admitted GOPers who won't vote for a Dem in Nov.

Obama gets about 75% of Hillary voters now.

Once the convention is over, more of those will swing to Obama as they realize their holding out for Hillary has come to an end.

[DevonRex]

11. Except for a few kitties, those 18M are Obama voters now. nt

[JackORoses]

6. rinsd, I am proud to call you a fellow Democrat

Though we had our differences in the Primaries, you have proven yourself to be more concerned about the future of this Nation than the fate of your original candidate.

I regret ever viewing you through the same lens as some of the others who support her.

You know how much this Election really means.
Thank you for that.

[CakeGrrl]

9. It's the fear of the "18 million" - a mantra we have courtesy of HRC herself

Apparently there's this unknown "cloud" of voters who just might throw their support to McCain if she's not on the ticket, causing the Democrats to lose.

Since no one is sure how many that is, apparently the safe bet is to put her on the ticket so they'll all be happy and vote Democratic.

I don't buy it. Factor out Democrats who know they'll be in deep shit if McCain gets in, factor out the Operation Chaos vote, and factor out the racist dead-enders who won't vote for Obama under any circumstances, and I think Obama can compensate for the toxic holdouts with his superior GOTV ground game.

[DevonRex]

10. Not Hispanics, either. nt

[rinsd]

12. Hillary is pretty popular in the Hispanic community.

Not sure if she would have a large impact but I don't want to dismiss her cache with that demographic.

[Erin Elizabeth]

16. I live in Texas and lemme tell you

She did surprisingly poorly with Hispanics. I thought she was supposed to do so well with them, but the turnout was dismal.

[rinsd]

17. Maybe its regional. She quite well here in CA.

[flamingdem]

23. I am speaking about CA Latinos, an effective organizing effort going on for Obama nt

[flamingdem]

22. I work with Latinos and they have changed loyalties to Obama, believe me

and it will increase in time... this is one group critical to reach for registration and information... fyi

[depakid]

15. That's about right

Quite aside from the fact that the two probably don't much like each other.

I think we all agree that whoever the VP choice is needs to be a fighter not a panderer.

[scheming daemons]

18. Relax.... this link exposes what is going on today...

http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=HILLARYTACTICS-08-19-08


By Saturday, it will all be over. Next Wednesday at the latest.

[elkston]

19. They do look good together. I'll give it that. n/t

[Whisp]

20. she could bring in the Department of Catharsis

and the Ministry of Gestalt
the Federal Look At Me Me Me Me Commission (not in an investigate way, but in an adulating way)

[Phx_Dem]

21. She shores up the Republican base. n/t

[SeeTheFuture]

24. Indies

I am an Indie who is voting for Obama. If Hillary gets on the ticket, I vote for Nader. Sorry, have to run, the snipers are shooting at me again....