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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:24 PM
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MSNBC: Obama echoes Clinton 'fighter' message
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/20/1278602.aspx

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones

MARTINSVILLE, Va. -- As Obama has focused on the economy almost exclusively on the campaign trail in recent days, he has begun to sound more and more like his former rival Hillary Clinton, co-opting her rhetoric on being a “fighter” for ordinary Americans.

Obama is hoping to win over voters in traditionally red states with his economic message -- that while McCain's policies favor big corporations and the rich, he will look out for the middle class.

The New York senator used language about being a champion of hard-working families to great effect toward the end of the primary season, helping her win in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana -- though narrowly in the latter. These same states will be battlegrounds in the fall.

This election is about “deciding right here and right now that we are gonna fight to make government accountable to the American people to make sure that the special interests aren’t dominating Washington,” Obama told the crowd of about 350 here at a community college in the southern part of the state.

“That’s why I promise you this: that if you will vote for me, if you give me that opportunity, if you give me that chance, that I will fight for you every single day. I will wake up in that White House thinking about the people of Martinsville and the people of Henry County and how I can make your life better,” he said, echoing a line Clinton often used at the end of her speeches.

several events in recent days in Nevada, New Mexico and North Carolina, Obama has talked about average families incomes that rose $6,000 during the Bill Clinton years and have fallen $1,000 during the Bush years -- statistics that Clinton used near the top of nearly every speech. This is not the first time the Illinois senator has hailed the last two-term Democratic president, but he seems to be using this sort of language more lately.

He has spoken about “the American Dream slipping away,” another favorite phrase of Sen. Clinton’s, has made allusions to the “invisible Americans” that she often spoke of, though he did not use the word, and has talked about listening to the voices of the American people, another line that has been a favorite of both Democrats.

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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:25 PM
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1. This is to counteract McCain echoing Clinton's tactics....
...
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:27 PM
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2. Just curious when was the last time you posted anything that didnt say Clinton in it?
me thinks its long past time for you to let it go.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:28 PM
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4. You read my mind. I'm getting really tired of it, myself. nt
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:29 PM
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5. Can't wait for next Wednesday night..... nothing left to talk about with respect to Clintons after
that.

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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:34 PM
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14. Me either. Its starting to be just plain odd
Like some sort of compulsion or something
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:43 PM
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21. You read my mind, too..I'm getting so fucking sick
of clinton clinton clinton and the fucking mainstream fascist propaganda machine.

Who Gives A FUCK.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:45 PM
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23. You mean like the story on Obama out-raising McCain in Utah, which I posted three hours ago, and
which got one reply and then sank, because you Clinton-haters aren't interested in anything except trying to fight with people who were Clinton supporters and who believe she'd help the ticket?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6674183

I've posted LOTS of very favorable topics about Obama. I've kicked some of them again and again, because I couldn't believe that in a supposedly pro-Obama forum they were being ignored. But they tend to get ignored because all you guys want to do is bitch and moan about Clinton. For you, this is Anti-Clinton Underground, not Democratic Underground.

You're every bit as bad as the PUMAs. Every bit as destructive of party unity.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:53 PM
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31. Exactly like that!
Good work... And as sad thaqt it is that it sank. Do you not notice that it also did not provoke a negative response?

So my question to you is if you know that the clinton posts are going to provoke a negative response why do you continue to do it?
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:28 PM
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3. The endless Clinton postings are becoming unbelievably annoying at this point. nt
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:31 PM
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7. Then you'd best avoid the Convention in Denver because you will be in agony.
.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:36 PM
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15. The big irony is Obama has already chosen his VP - awhile ago.
And I think he's chosen either Wesley Clark or Hillary Clinton.

To me, there are some big signs for both.

But the endless campaigning to sway DUers who are never going to be swayed is wearing me out.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:41 PM
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18. I think it's Hillary....
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:41 PM
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19. It's Hillary.
It's so obvious. Obama and Axelrod have steered McCain into believing it won't be her.

Even the "he" prounoun from Obama and the "guy" word by Biden all in the same day just keep the McCain crowd thinking it won't be Hillary.

It is Hillary.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:43 PM
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20. Yep, it is Hillary
and we will have a fantastic and unbelievable Convention. Patty Solis Doyle has made up with Hillary and are ready to rumble
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:53 PM
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30. We are standing together, Roberto1223. And our crowd is growing.
:hi:
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:45 PM
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22. and then your little temper tantrum will be over
what will you do on the 29th? post another "she should be VP" thread?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:50 PM
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26. No.... that post will come on Saturday, after he announces someone else...


It will come AGAIN next Wednesday, after that someone else gives their acceptance speech.


It will come AGAIN every time an outlier poll ANYWHERE shows McCain ahead or close.



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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:01 PM
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33. hopefully the Mods will step up at that point
hopefully...
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:07 PM
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35. You really are nervous about Hillary. LOL.
What a great day this is. :)
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:17 PM
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38. I haven't been nervous about lil' Hilly since Wisconsin
but you and yours seem to be chomping at the bit as the announcement draws near.

do you really think posting thread after thread on DU is going to change Obama's mind?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:31 PM
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8. Damn. I read it as an Obama post.
And an interesting one.

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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:33 PM
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11. Hey look same people are here to tell you how silly your post was..
Imagine that...


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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:29 PM
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6. Enough already. nt
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:32 PM
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9. It's all about Clinton.
:eyes:
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:33 PM
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10. Except Clinton as Senator was Ms. Corporate Democrat. Campaigning as a 'populist' was PHONY. -nt
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:33 PM
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12. It wasn't Clinton's message, she ripped it off from John Edwards after 'Inevitability' failed
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:34 PM
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13. Wow, the OP posts the headline from MSNBC and is attacked because it includes the name Clinton in it
Unbelievable. No, wait, completely believable AND predictable.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:36 PM
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16. Sort of like your response here
you have that macroed yet?


que metric getting all incensed cause no one wants to hear about hillary anymore except him and about oh 6 other posters who I am sure will be along shortly to chime in.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:45 PM
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24. YOU don't want to hear about her anymore, but she still has many supporters. You know, supporting
Edited on Wed Aug-20-08 02:47 PM by MetricSystem
Obama for President doesn't mean having to give up my support for Hillary. It's people like YOU who cause further anger and division.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:48 PM
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25. yea yea 18 million blah blah
I know the talking points.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:53 PM
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32. Wow, you're a nasty one.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:37 PM
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17. When almost every post is on the same topic - relentlessly. Yep, the complaints are as predictable
as the posts themselves.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:51 PM
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27. Yes, it's disheartening, isn't it... nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:52 PM
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28. If Obama were like hillary on the campaign trail then
he'd be smearing mccain with LIES..give me a fucking break, propaganda machine media.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:53 PM
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29. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:08 PM
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36. Which means she was really flattering Edwards -
those were all his talking points which SHE co-opted and he fell by the wayside.

BTW - Obama has been saying pretty much the same thing all along.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:12 PM
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37. perhaps so
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:05 PM
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34. What an unbelievable stretch.
He has spoken about “the American Dream slipping away,” another favorite phrase of Sen. Clinton’s, has made allusions to the “invisible Americans” that she often spoke of, though he did not use the word, and has talked about listening to the voices of the American people, another line that has been a favorite of both Democrats.


No one ever says the American dream is slippin away, right?


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