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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:51 PM
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John McCain Is No "Hero POW"
He was a survivor

By Ted Sampley
U.S. Veteran Dispatch
November 1999
(updated 2008)

John McCain seriously violated the Military Code of Conduct by trading "military information" and making numerous public statements that appeared favorable to the communist war effort in exchange for "special treatment."
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A mob gathered on shore and McCain was bayoneted in the foot and his shoulder was smashed with a rifle butt. He was put on a truck and taken to Hanoi's main prison.

After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by his captors who wanted military information from him, McCain called for an officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, "O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital." -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

McCain was taken to Gai Lam military hospital normally unavailable to American POWS. (U.S. government documents)

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Page 193-194, Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.

http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcianhro.htm

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The nutcase RW is going to be so very helpful with info about McCain. Here's more about Sampley from FR.

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:10 PM
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1. So, does torture work?
From the article:

McCain said the guards charged into him beating and kicking him until he 'lay on the floor, bloody, arms and legs throbbing, ribs cracked, several teeth broken off at the gumline." The Vietnamese, according to McCain, wanted him to confess to being a "black criminal." --The Nightingale's Song

McCain said he was next introduced for the first time to the "torture ropes." He said the torture went on for several days before he broke and agreed to write and sign a confession that he was a "black criminal." McCain said that he was moved to another building away from the other POWs. --The Nightingale's Song

McCain said (page 136) that he was so distraught because he had signed the statement that he attempted suicide but was stopped when a guard burst into the room. --The Nightingale's Song


So McCone is a "black criminal" because he was tortured into admitting it. We don't need criminals of any kind in the White House. Case closed...
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:18 PM
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2. My Dad said the only heroes in war are the ones that didn't come back
after receiving the silver star and the distinguished flying cross.
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:21 PM
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3. My guess: Most POWs just want to survive and they do anything necessary to make this possible.
John knows this was the case with him. He wasn't a "hero" at all. Surviving a POW experience is a pretty great accomplishment! Why does the McCain camp think they need to embellish these simple tales of survival with unbelievable tales about crosses in the sand, etc.???

We're not stupid John! Most of us get the fact that being a POW for 5+ years IS NOT FUN! But we resent the Hallmark Card replays you're trying to perpetuate! You were scarred, you did what you had to do to survive, END OF STORY! Let's not make you a mythological hero because of this! I don't buy the hero status and you should be ashamed to accept it. Please remember the others who gave their lives for this conflict and the others who were POWs too!
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