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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:50 AM
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Which is more upsetting: McCain's a liar, or McCain's mentally broken?
The "cross in the sand" issue is the latest in a long line of items that bring up the question whether McSame is a pathological liar or has some type of mental defect possibly brought about by five years of torture at the hands of the North Vietnamese.

I am not "bashing" McSame but I think he might need our sympathy and treatment instead of "deserving" the White House.

I've seen two family members go down with Alzheimers and it's sad. Sometimes they incorporate something they heard into their reality (i.e reading a story about a prisoner and a line in the sand). Also, several people in the early to middle stages of dementia seem to show "anger issues". My stepfather's mother lost her mind and came at her husband with a kitchen knife, screaming obscenities as she did. She was not a violent woman, but THE ILLNESS did it to her.

I think that McCain's mental health and suitability are a far bigger concern (or should be) than Obama's religiosity.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:55 AM
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1. He is mentally crippled. It's sad really. And middle America needs to
know it.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:56 AM
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2. Both are equally upsetting
I understand what you're saying, but McSame isn't family.

As far as sympathy for McCain, you can find it in the dictionary between s**t and syphilis, because that's all the sympathy he'll get from me!
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:02 AM
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3. Whatever the circumstances, McCain is not fit for the job.
period.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:10 AM
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4. Lousy advisers
feeding him TP's. Let's not forget Obama will be plagued with veteran losers as well.

McCain has little personal ability to come up with an answer for anything. He is not all there and vengeful anger does not improve his acuity(as it mysteriously does for Dimson). And he is an inveterate immoralist, liar and hypocrite in all the classic shamelessness, some of which fits in naturally with politics. Compared to Obama however, he does not belong on the same stage in any positive category whatsoever.

Let's try something in reverse. When talking politely about Hillary and why she shouldn't be the pick etc, people tend to go wild and think the jugular is the nasty personal traits or any that can be easily interpreted as such. With McCain it is ALWAYS the added dimension of sheer competence and that is even more tempting. Still it is the simple political realities and the issues that should suffice for the election. Further, you are not going to get much help from the McCain crutch MSM to expose the personal flaws. If the evil joke that is Dimson is still treated as a god president by the MSM, they will never prejudicially recant their personal favoritism for McCain. Hillary attacks WERE too much for the MSM haters to pass up. This is different and as the foibles and scary competence issues are passed over the gut issue and electoral sense remain the most critical. War, fear, hatred, economic misery, hope, change and restoration. The electorate in general wants to move EN MASSE down that road. Trivialization will be isolated to parity camp follower cheap shots that threaten to stall this mass movement and restore the fan GOP blind angry voter and the lost and discouraged Dem faithful. Taking THAT by the throat all the way to November is critical. In effect the MSM helps us because the easy personal shot against McCain will not be allowed and very very likely the people will see his age and truculent insider incompetence for themselves.

It would help if the Obama campaign does not follow the MSM false lead so much that it props McCain in fact.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:19 AM
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5. McCain thinks Chuck Norris rescued him from the POW camp. n/t
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:21 AM
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6. As far as the far RW is concerned, that makes him a perfect candidate.
He's not mentally stable (sound familiar?), so if handled carefully, he will do what is wanted.

He lies with ease (sound familiar?), and if fed the lies with care, will perform well.

Let's just call him a mentally unstable liar with immoral and self-serving handlers (hmmm...sounds familiar again.)
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:23 AM
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7. the "cross in the sand" issue says more about the people digging it up
than it does about McCain. Let's drop it.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:55 AM
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8. he is both a liar and mentally broken.
does that count.
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:15 AM
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9. Like the Bush choice: evil or just plain incompetent.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:08 AM
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10. What's new about lying in politics?
It is nothing new for candidates to embellish or tell fictional stories that they think make them look good. He is competing against a narrative that appeals to Republicans. He is desperately trying to hold on to his choir.

Of course this is something we recognize and are going to criticize. His choir, however is possibly less critical and may defend him if friends or family with opposing opinions try to show evidence.

As far as this idea that McCain is mentally unstable\broken\deranged any other word from a horror movie you can think up and repeating it over and over again is getting to be offensive, even to me.

There is no known objective evidence and people who do have it on paper live with the stigma that is in the jokes of many of the posts.


In fact, it is a similar defense used for Bush as he came of so hapless and dumb. Accusations of substance abuse, etc. The choir defended him through 8 years.

It's a hapless strategy.

Democrats attack in a way that appears to make them look like they are trying to elevate themselves intellectually. Republican leaning working class voters defend.
"I would not have known that word, either. It proves he's just a regular guy."
"I have trouble with my memory too. There's no sense in jumping all over the guy as if he's an idiot."
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