Warren's Faith Forum was Meaningless

[WeDidIt]

Anybody who watched the thing was missing the BIG STORY on Saturday night.

Michael Phelps won his eighth gold medal.

McCain who?

Cone of what the fuck?

Cross in the sand, was that a move made by the American Women's Beach Volleyball team?

[liberal N proud]

1. Let's truly hope so, it was like the Pharisees and Jesus

They brought Obama in to the forum for one reason only, to trap him.

Don't ask me to quote a specific scripture, I grew up Catholic.

[saltpoint]

9. Good analogy, IMO. I wonder if the OP would consider double-posting

this in the Religion forum?

It might fire up a really good discussion.

[mdmc]

2. both stories warrant a "meh" from me

One guy just swam fast, the other was a born again forum. Since I don't have cable, meh.

[WeDidIt]

3. You didn't need cable to see Phelps rock teh sports world

Nobody ever won 8 gold medals in a single Olympics before.

That's huge.

[mdmc]

4. but all he did is swim

its not like he ran, jumped, threw, and swam. Its not like he won for running, biking, and swimming. He just swam.

[DefenseLawyer]

5. That might be the dumbest thing I've ever read.

Thanks for the pick-me-up.

[mdmc]

6. no problem

but really, if you don't care for swimming, he didn't do much more then swim fast (faster then anyone else).
I would be amazed if he won a gold in running, pole vaulting, swimming, and shot put.

I guess I just don't follow sports.

[AlinPA]

7. Just a bunch of seals clapping for McCain and his one-liners. They probably didn't

understand Obama because he spoke thoughtfully. "Too smart, them elite lib'rls from them east'rn schools."

[saltpoint]

8. The take-aways wound the fundies, IMO.

The Battle at the Saddle likely was designed to hand an advantage to McCain, and even WITH the questions in advance, McCain's no closer to winning fundie love than he was going in. McCain had the demographic home-field advantage but couldn't get suited up to play.

Net loss for the McCain campaign on that one, even with the cheating.

Modest gain for Obama, since he got the questions fresh and un-practiced and handled them thoughtfully, giving no fundie any red meat objections to throw a fit over, and giving no soundbites or flubs for FOX to flog for the next 3 news cycles.

Modest bump up for Obama, including among the few fundamentalists with minds who heard in his comments a man who likely knew Christanity as well as they do and had arguably given it more thought.

Huge loss, IMO, for Rick Warren, whose book sales might have been given a boost, but whose reputation as a "palatable fundamentalist" took a hit. He came off as a non-Christian -- too beefily comfortable in the high-tech bright lights big-bucks mega-church venue and not particularly suggestive of the tenets of the ministry of the Galilean he purports to emulate.

He came off as a gameshow host for Jesus. A vendor in the den of thieves.

[saltpoint]

10. I have the feeling that Warren was trying to hand McCain an

advantage and that McCain fumbled it.

Not badly, but there's a feeling in the air that something didn't go as planned.

My guess is that they tried to rattle Obama and he proved unrattle-able.

My opinion of Warren, which wasn't that high to start with, is even lower now.

[Avalux]

11. It was an orchestrated event for the GOP fundie base.

It was not meant to sway anyone one way or the other; it was done to prove to the fundies that it really is OK for them to vote for McCain.