The MSM Is Starting To Take Notice (McCain's Made-Up Cross-In-The-Dirt-Story)

[berni_mccoy]

Dallas Morning News:
http://religionblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/08/john-mccain-and-the-cross-in-t.html

CBS News
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/08/18/politics/fromtheroad/entry4357372.shtml

The Guardian
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/usa/2008/08/monday_memo.html

The Atlantic Online
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/mccains-cross-i.html

And HuffPo gives very thorough treatment here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-nickolas/did-mccain-steal-his-cros_b_119471.html

[JaneQPublic]

1. Cool. Add that to his changing football team story, and maybe they'll see a pattern.

Remember the football story, where his book says he gave his captors the names of Packers team members when they demanded he identify other servicemembers but when campaigning in PA he said it was Steelers team members' names.

Maybe, just maybe, the MSM will begin researching some of his other often-told POW stories and come to see that much of it's just fabrication. Then the Dems won't have to swiftboat him -- he'll do it to himself with his own lies.

[dkf]

2. Excellent point in comments from DMN:

Posted by Pablo Zed @ 8:21 AM Mon, Aug 18, 2008

McCain could have had a similar experience as Solzhenitsyn, but wouldn't McCain himself had talked about this "coincidence" given that McCain had read Solzhenitsyn's own account?

And as for drawing crosses in the sand "for centuries," I do not believe that to be true in communist Vietnam when Christians were bombing the hell out of them

http://religionblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/08/john-mccain-and-the-cross-in-t.html

[berni_mccoy]

7. Ah, a smoking gun! Why DIDN'T McCain mention Sozhenitsyn's experience

Since McCain is a huge fan of Sozhenitsyn and the experience was so similar!

[dkf]

8. You'd think that it would have been even MORE touching to say that

prisoners the world round have experienced this kinship.

And he would be comparing himself to Solzhenitsyn, which would have won even more accolades.

But no...not a peep.

[Spazito]

11. As another poster pointed out....

Christians did draw "in the sand" for centuries but the drawing was in the shape of a fish not a cross so that is not something that can negate the question raised re McCain's story, imo.

[Hope And Change]

3. K & R!

[TwilightGardener]

4. Reading through the Dallas Morning News comments, it's funny and

very telling that Repubs don't have a defense for McCone--they immediately attack Barack and Michelle on unrelated topics. This must be potentially very damaging--they are unnerved.

[dkf]

6. Well they were the ones who found it and exposed it first.

[babylonsister]

5. This makes my day! nt

[Barack_America]

9. Yikes, fibs about a religious experience and isn't even a full member of his church?!?!

Johnny better hope this doesn't get out!

[Spazito]

10. This is very good, imo

Whether the corporate media pick this up or not, the question is now out there.

The twin questions:

Did McCain cheat during the forum Saturday night?
Did McCain plagiarize Solzhenitsyn in his "cross in the sand" story?

The media has picked up the forum controversy which puts a question mark on McCain's honesty. It is now a matter of the drip, drip, drip.

If the public see what happened at the forum as dishonest on McCain's part then the question of McCain's story about the "cross in the sand" only adds to the question of honesty.

There are some on DU who are working very hard to try and see the question about plagiarism dropped, I think that would be a mistake. Focus on both, both indicate dishonesty, imo.

[berni_mccoy]

12. AOL News Has it now, and BOY Are the Freepers there PISSED

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/08/18/did-mccain-make-up-the-cross-in-the-dirt/

[Spazito]

13. Oh my.....

contrary to some, this does seem to have some legs. Add the fact it was the freepers that raised this first and it is sooo damn delicious!

[berni_mccoy]

14. NY TIMES HAS IT NOW! Even Talks About the KOS Post that Shows Freepers Doubting McCain FIRST!

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/who-knew-what-when/

[Alter Ego]

15. When I see it on CNN or MSNBC I'll believe it.

[berni_mccoy]

16. Wait for KO tonight...

[berni_mccoy]

17. The Telegraph (UK) Has It NOW!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html

[eridani]

18. The irony is that he could have gotten by with it if he had referenced Solzhenitsyn

It would have been a moving universalization of his own experience, if only he had had it.

[McCamy Taylor]

19. "McCain" "Cross" and "POW" do not hurt him like "McCain cheated"