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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:35 PM
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Rick Warren said today during his church service
Before the election you can pray, register to vote and vote on election day. He also said that you need to look at the morals of the person running and their character. What's your thoughts?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:36 PM
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1. I'm already way tired of Rick Warren
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:45 PM
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16. Yeah, funny a "Man of God" is worried about such worldly things as this election. I guess all Gods
work is done, There is on hunger and no illness... hmmmm...where do we spend our $150/yr tithes.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:37 PM
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2. I wouldn't vote for Warren for dog-shit scooper.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:38 PM
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6. Neither would I... He needs to confess that McSame cheated during the forum
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:37 PM
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3. Well, at least he isn't coming right out and telling them to vote for McCain...
other pastors are.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:38 PM
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4. Well if the good Pastor is being honest
then he just told us to vote for Obama!
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:44 PM
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15. I agree.
I also noted a big difference in his interaction during the morality conversation with Obama. Particularly when Obama discussed realizing the point that he had to put his disappointments of where others failed him aside to put others first. It was a real conversation, and one that I think Warren really believed came from Obama's heart.

McCain on the otherhand rushed right through it, and wasn't sincere through any of it.
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:29 PM
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26. That's what I thought when I saw him saying this. n/t
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:38 PM
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5. If believers would have done that honestly, and using Christ's teachings as the standard
They would have never voted for Chimpy.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:39 PM
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8. Chimps lied
and McCain's lying. Neither of them are spiritual to say the least.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:38 PM
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7. The morals of the interviewer don't stand up...
to much scrutiny.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:41 PM
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10. Why do you say that? nt
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:46 PM
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17. Warren lied to his "flock"..
he lied to the tv audience and he lied to Sen. Obama. Why wouldn't I say that?
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:50 PM
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18. You are so right
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:02 PM
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24. In all fairness,
I asked that before I read about this interview. I had no idea what Pastor Rick allegedly did.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:44 PM
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31. OK
It really was outrageous for him to say he had McCain sequestered somewhere when he must have known he wasn't even in the building. Or he has the world's worst staff.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 12:59 AM
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32. I am very familiar with Saddleback Church
My sister has been a member of the congregation since they met in a tent. I was baptized there. There is NO way Rick Warren did NOT know that McCrazy was not there yet and not in the freaking 'cone of silence.' I'm willing to bet he had the questions weeks ago...this is sad but not surprising.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:39 PM
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9. How about looking at brains? That doesn't occur to the religiously insane, though.
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:30 PM
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27. Warren did mention that, too. n/t
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:41 PM
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11. I look at the morals of the person running,
their intelligence and knowledge, and their judgement.

That means Obama!
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Riddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:41 PM
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12. Morals? McLame cheated on his wife. Character? He cheated on the forum.
'Nuff said.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:51 PM
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19. McSame is a BULLSHI---
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 10:08 AM
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33. Morals & character? Keating 5 Adulterer who is 8 times richer than his own definition of rich?
Didn't he say rich meant $5 million net worth? So he is EIGHT TIMES richer than that, with his $40 million net worth. And his wife is TWENTY TIMES richer than his definition of rich.

Does that build character or show they are favored by The Good Lord?

Character -- does serial adultery build character? Does it make him more approachable because he, too, has been a sinner many times?

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:42 PM
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13. They Will Vote Republican
because that's what they do - oh there may be a few (26%) - but the rest will vote for same old things like abortion, gay marriage, conservative judges, drill for oil - pillage the planet, planet be damned.

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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:58 PM
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22. If Obama moved even 1% to vote for him it was worth his time. They might not admit it in public tho
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:43 PM
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14. My thoughts are that Obama has better morals
in every way, including Christian morals.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:52 PM
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20. Barack has great morals that are always being questioned.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:56 PM
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21. I never even heard of Warren before this debate...
...and now all the MSM are treating him like he's the country's leading preacher.

I guess they don't want to focus too much on McCain's other preacher buddies, like Dobson, Parsely, and others.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:00 PM
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23. I have because of his book.
I'm in Atlanta and the court house killings that happen the book was at the center of conversation. It was totally positive but now I have my doubts about Rick Warren. Very disappointing for me.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:26 PM
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25. I think people like Warren are hypocritical snake oil salesmen/business men only.
I suspect that the vast majority of these types are NON Believers, just adept at working the fear and bible system of ripping people off for their own benefit. If they truly believed, they would not behave as they do.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:36 PM
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29. To his credit...
he still lives in a modest home, is giving proceeds from his book to other charities, and has been paying back his salary to the church. Not many big church leaders would do this.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:39 PM
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30. So far as we know. Sorry, I am so done with organized religion.
It has the potential to do good, but has been hijacked into other things...all through history. Spirituality - yes. Being part of the herd - no thanks!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:32 PM
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28. Why in the hell is a preacher/guru/huckster a power broker?
this is just fucking crazy
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