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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 09:45 PM Original message |
Any religious DUers have a comparison of Obama's and McCain's answers? |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, Evango's are normally brainwashed go with the flow.. the preacher |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
54. Their witness died when they became an arm of the republican hate machine |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Yeah... I like how he put in Warren's wealth of $25 million in book sales. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. I had a minor in philosophy with many classes on comparisons of philosophy |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. honestly, I don't think either one of them did a good job.... |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. thanks to you and other posters |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. We foes of the Rabid Religious Right know the code words |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. THIS is a great post. |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
46. Obama said something about "witnessing" |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 02:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
48. ah, but you were not the target audience. (eom) |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
38. "At no time did I hear either man say that he would consult God" - thank goodness for that! |
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gblady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
44. Barack, I believe, did |
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1Hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 06:06 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Here is the link to the transcript of last night's Saddleback "debate" |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
45. You're spot on about the "code" but I have to warn you... |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. sounds to me like Obama is more closely following the word of Jesus... |
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1Hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 06:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
52. What a GREAT and concise summary that is spot on, IMO! |
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Bad Thoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. I'm not Christian, so I won't agree with them, but ... |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. that's a good image - there's a cross and a flag and somehow McCain is forgiven. nt |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. McCain's answers demonstrated a lack of Christian belief. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. that's my outsider perspective - also that McCain is not reflective and Obama is highly reflective. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. I found Obama deeply spiritual without the jingoistic overtones. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. thanks for that thoughtful post. nt |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Hawaiians believe in Mana and invented the term |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I have a friend who grew up in Hawaii and recently moved back |
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noel711 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #7 |
53. As I've said before, McCain is a poser... |
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Bad Thoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. Revising my answer |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. There's always a significant difference when you are listening |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Not off track---right track |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I think that's a lovely story. Obama spoke about humility, McCain didn't, that's for sure. nt |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. That truly follows the teachings of Jesus Christ |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. That's ok. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. If more ministers were like yours I would have no problem going to church... |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. He is truly wonderful, but he wouldn't want me |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. maybe the bikers can provide security ;) |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
60. LOL! Well they do live nearby and have become quite |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. do you know I seriously had pretty much given up hope in that a religious |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
62. Aw, hey, that's cool! |
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Heather MC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. I believe Obama is More understanding of God's LOVE |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
12. Obama is a believer, McCain likes to tell war stories. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
16. thanks to everyone for their thoughts - this is educational for me. Another detail ? |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Well, it's implicit when you say that Jesus died for our sins |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. thanks for translating for me :) |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. They're into some interesting theological territory |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. That's a great point. |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
59. That's 'cause fundies don't use that verse |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. That last thing you said completely intrigued me... |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Huh. But I wonder how many people even know that verse |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
29. as somone who lived in that community and was trained at a seminary |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. thanks for your thoughts. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. yes and how appropriate that after my reply grovelbot came on cue |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Grovelbot is omniscient! ;) |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. yeah but he drove the crowd away and killed the thread |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Grovelbot is an angry vengeful god. Oh well, I learned a lot here. nt |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. found those CS Monitor interviews from last fall (pre-Rev. Wright blowup) |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Nice summarization. It shows completely different world views about |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. your welcome |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
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Indiana_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
47. Yes, you are right. Obama DID do a better job. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:08 AM Response to Original message |
49. I was an Evangelical for 5 years and have read Warren's book |
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tannybogus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 05:22 AM Response to Original message |
50. I believe McCain is Old Testament, and Obama is New Testament |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. bumper sticker I love: "Born Right the First Time" nt |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
55. McCain's answers were all about being a Christian while |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. yeah, very different approaches to the evil question. nt |
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