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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:52 PM
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There is a Name for People Who Relive Democratic Primary Conflict: McCain Supporters
Edited on Wed Aug-13-08 10:02 PM by McCamy Taylor
By their works ye shall know them.


What happens in the Democratic Primary, stays in the Democratic Primary---unless you are a Republican strategist. Democrats out number Republicans in this country even in a good year. This election, the GOP is in bad shape. Their party’s name is mud. If they are going to keep control of the oil in Iraq for their buddies at Exxon and Chevron and if they are going to bail out the banks which have made predatory loans and lied about auction-rate securities and if they want to keep the insurance and drug industries safe from universal health care, they will have to poach a whole bunch of Democratic votes----

----and that means they have to make sure that the war between one half of the Democratic Party and the other half of the Democratic Party which we witnessed last winter and spring continues all the way through to November.

The last thing that John McCain wants to see is former rivals working together for the common good of the party and the American people. Obama and Clinton have disappointed all the people who hoped to see a replay of 1972, when Nixon and Buchanan and even a baby faced Karl Rove played CREEPy tricks on the Democratic campaigns, calling one candidate names while claiming that the slurs came from another candidate, stuff like that.

A lot of effort went into recreating 1972. They even got Bob Novak to play his old tricks. You know, telling the world that he had the power to read the minds of Democratic politicians. Like when he said that all McGovern really believed in was abortion, acid and amnesty . Last fall, Novak said he knew what one Democrat, Clinton thought about another Democrat, Obama. The press reported what he said as if it was true. They believed him more than they believed Clinton. If he did not have a brain tumor, he would probably be doing it right now. Forget about what Hillary Clinton has to say about Obama and about McCain. Novak would be telling us what Clinton really thinks about Obama and McCain.

Since they do not have Bob Novak, they have to settle for lesser players, people who are not so skilled. Thanks to the internet, what they have lost in quality, the GOP makes up for in volume. There are so many people who will tell you exactly what Obama or Clinton really thinks or is really up to or really did and why you should be pissed off at one or the other of them. Sometimes it is hard for the senators themselves to get a word in edgewise. Sometimes, it is hard to remember that this is August and not January. Some people still seem to be stuck in primary mode, as if the enemy is a Democrat. But only a Republican would call a Democrat the enemy at this stage in the election process…..

Funny, despite all the scary talk, neither Obama nor Clinton has ever actually done anything to make me angry or afraid. If I strip away all the She thinks and His supporters said , I am left with two decent, intelligent, competent and capable people.

So, when I see people trying to distract me with their “But Obama did this!” and “But Hillary did that!”, I can not help thinking “This is just a variation of ‘Abortion, Acid and Amnesty’,” a Republican smear designed to turn Democrats against Democrats.

And we all (should) know (by now) that Divide and Conquer is the GOP’s favorite strategy for winning elections.

PS: Since the press is McCain's base, expect to see lots more stories designed to inflame Obama supporters (of the "Hillary's people were so bad " type) as well as stories of the "Obama's people stole that nomination using dirty tricks!" type---though the latter will become more common after the convention, since if the press unleashes them before the convention, he can respond by asking Clinton to become his VP. And expect to see every single stealth McCain supporter posting at DU stoking the two fires.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:54 PM
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1. Douchebags
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:00 PM
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2. That's a keeper!
Alternative caption... "I can haz tombstone?"
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:56 AM
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23. People outside of DU might misinterpret the meaning of that caption. n/t
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tigervalentine Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:21 PM
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9. Perry Logan climbed up
from under his tombstone? He's back? Scary shit.
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:14 PM
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3. The McSame people keep the puma crap front and center - it serves their purpose. n/t
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:15 AM
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13. Mmm hmm.
Their useful idiots have already started indignantly squawking at the OP. :rofl:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:43 PM
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4. Gee, I sure hope you are not calling me a Republican strategist.
That would hurt my feelings.

I think that we are on dangerous ground now, and I think her groupies could cost Obama the election.

I disagree with you that people who point out the harm they are doing are Republicans.

I am not, and I think that is clear.

If Hillary is working with the Puma Alliance to hurt the party....then it needs to be known.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:55 PM
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7. When her own spokesman goes on ABC and says "we would have won if Edwards had come clean"
Implying that the contest wasn't fair somehow, says it on national television, her SPOKESMAN, then that is deliberate. They are stoking the flames. They are attempting to steal the show and the nomination too if they can figure out how. Mo Dowd's column is not RANDOM. It's based in what we're all observing. Their behavior is ATROCIOUS and it's HURTING OUR NOMINEE. They need to stop, and they need to stop the PUMAs, before they do any more damage.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:46 PM
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5. I agree. The PUMAs are definitely McCain supporters.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:03 AM
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24. Do you mean the opumas?
Look - we all need to win in November. We now have one candidate. Stop the name calling and negativity.
Please.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:51 PM
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6. K and R
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:00 PM
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8. Try HOWARD WOLFSON and BILL & HILLARY CLINTON & MS. DE ROTHSCHILD
It's Team Clinton that won't let it go, and as long as they keep it up it's going to be under discussion. So get used to it, or get them to STOP.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:54 AM
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18. I would suggest looking for the beam in your own eye...
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 08:54 AM by Donald Ian Rankin
NT
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:24 PM
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10. What do you call what Hillary supporters are doing?
She is having fundraisers with them.

CQ Politics today quoted Elaine Kamarck that it is possible she could get the nomination. How through intimidation?

Who is reliving the primaries.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 02:52 AM
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11. They'll have one million middle-aged women in pantsuits surround the convention hall
And scare the young, black, male Obama delegates.

(to reverse an infamous rumor from earlier this year).
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:21 AM
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14. I wonder how many of those who
are calling the OP such nasty names here are just worrying about being found out.

We call McCamy's posts Truman Hell. She tells the truth and they think it's hell.

K&R
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:47 AM
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16. "We" being the cognitive dissonant. n/t
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dccrossman Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:40 AM
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15. K&R - I'd have to agree that in the end I respect them both
Though I can't see Obama asking HRC to become his VP no matter what the press releases. A good number of his supporters, and you can call it a cult of personality, if you want, are still angry over some of HRC's comments during the primary.

In the end, though, to take a slightly naive view, I want to believe that both of them want what's best for the party and the country. That means HRC backing the rest of the way down, preferably, but if not, then during the convention. (I personally think she's already made a decent start.) But that also means Obama likely helping HRC advance after November, whether that's through a position in the Administration or as a Justice, or what have you.

No matter what we do, the M$M will present a small fringe of voters as a major block to Democratic unity. It makes for a good narrative.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:48 AM
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17. I agree with you more on this thread than on your earlier one that Obama can only win if HRC is his
VP. I think he could win with her or without her.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:58 AM
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19. I think it's an easier win with her
Judging by the lay of the astroturf, however, it ain't gonna happen.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:11 AM
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20. Ms Taylor, you're the one who keeps reliving Democratic Primary conflict.
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 09:12 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
Those words of your thread-header are the very words that would have occurred to most of us, when we saw who you were still determined to tout here as the Democratic VP.

In fact, I thought it was someone fed up with the Clintonite "resurrectionists", political "Burke and Hare"s, and was somewhat disappointed, to put it mildly, to see your bizare inversion of the truth. In fact, another "resurrectionist", (of the Clark persuasion, though I'm not sure; he could have been a Clintonite), actually proclaimed that he was going to vote for McCain, thinking that, rather than being overjoyed at seeing a trojan horse (stowaway) jumping ship, we would be utterly gutted. In fact, technically, having said that, he should be banned from posting to the site.

Can't you understand that your candidate is a definitive loser of the Democratic Primaries? It's over.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 01:03 PM
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21. Thanks
for that opinion....Now for my opinion...The truth will out, at the convention.....Intentions will no longer be arguable, they will be fact, and out there for everyone to see..

In the meantime, it doesn't hurt everyone to be prepared for any eventuality...and I am becoming suspicious of those who try to shut down any discussion regarding problems some of us perceive to be coming on the horizon...especially when they say, w/o any doubt they are only Republicans, or McCain supporters.....sorry, but I know for a fact that...a number of the people responsible for the discontent...ARE Hillary supporters who were, previous to her loss of the nomination.. Democrats....any number of them quit the Democratic party because of her loss...but they went Independent, (not Republican) from what I've read, and YES, some, to our shame, have threatened to support McCain...wb
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:09 PM
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22. Hillary's done, so at this point attacking her will only serve to hurt Obama, IMO.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:32 AM
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25. Pathetic and trite, not to mention overblown hyperbole,
not surprising and not subtle. This screed positing the old 'if you're not with us, you're against us' is reminiscent of bush and the repubs way of dealing with issues. It is unfortunate to see it being displayed on DU.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:18 PM
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26. .
:kick:
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