Again my neighbor won't vote for a Democrat

[Sugarcoated]

This time he says it's because he thinks Obama will raise his taxes. He has a Dental practice which he bought from the guy who retired, a pretty large established practice but was mismanaged, he's struggling to make it profitable. I know the Repubs are lying when they say Obama will raise taxes, but they also say over and over he's going to raise taxes on small businesses. Is that only if they make over 250,000? My husband says it's something to do with the payroll tax. I want to correct this guy if he's wrong, but I'm not good with this stuff. Can anyone explain a math idiot like me?

[anonymous171]

1. McCain will make the cost of living go up.

[berni_mccoy]

2. Obama will not raise any taxes on small business, including Payroll Taxes. This has been debunked

Only individuals who earn more than 250,00 will see an increase in income taxes. Everyone else will see a tax cut.

Here is Obama's article referencing FactCheck.org: http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/obamaandtaxes

I doubt your friend will listen anyway. He's already made up his mind and will be screwed by McBush.

Here is yet another FactCheck article debunking tax b.s. from McBush: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/more_tax_deceptions.html

[DangerDave921]

15. I read the fact-check article

And it says that Obama would raise taxes on a single earner making $42k per year. For a mom of two (as McCain's ad showed) she would have to earn over $62k before the tax increase kicked in. That's what factcheck was debunking, i.e., McCain's suggestion that this mom would pay more taxes on an income of $42k.

I'm confused -- you're citing factcheck to debunk the tax increase story, but the article itself seems to say it's true.

Also, what about individuals who earn over $250k who are small business owners? I would think that a dentist owning his own practice would likely be in this group.

[harun]

16. You said he is struggling to make it profitable. If he is not

profitable he won't be paying any taxes, because he won't have any profit. That is taxes on the businesses profit. If as part of the expense of the business he is paying himself 300k a year, then yes he may get a tax increase on 50k of that.

With the deductions he is going to have for his house, if he has one, and this business I highly doubt this guy is paying much more individual taxes than you.

A number of my colleagues think the same way. They all talk like a bunch of robots and say together "Dem's will raise taxes and businesses will have to lay off people". They say this because the main stream media keeps telling them this. F'ing robots.

[mvd]

19. Great. Thanks for the links

I saw that ad with Obama supposedly supporting the small business increase and assumed it wasn't true.

[MadMaddie]

3. Tell your neighbor that if he is struggling now

just imagine if McCain gets elected, tell him that more Americans with Dental insurance will lose their jobs because they have been outsourced, thus they won't be able to visit their local dentist (him).

Tell him when he shuts the doors to practice that last time, tell him he had a chance to save his business and others but he was toogullable to believe another Republicans lies.

[ingac70]

4. ...

* Provide Tax Relief for Small Businesses and Start Up Companies: Barack Obama will eliminate all capital gains taxes on start-up and small businesses to encourage innovation and job creation. Obama will also support small business owners by providing a $500 “Making Work Pay” tax credit to almost every worker in America. Self-employed small business owners pay both the employee and the employer side of the payroll tax, and this measure will reduce the burdens of this double taxation.
* Create a National Network of Public-Private Business Incubators: Barack Obama will support entrepreneurship and spur job growth by creating a national network of public-private business incubators. Business incubators facilitate the critical work of entrepreneurs in creating start-up companies. Obama will invest $250 million per year to increase the number and size of incubators in disadvantaged communities throughout the country.


http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#small-business

Doubt this changes your neighbor's mind. He's obviously a dumbass.

[Cronus Protagonist]

5. McCain Leiberman would then be out of the question, I suppose :P

n/t

[snowbear]

6. I have a brother-n-law and 2 cousins in PA, and they will stamp out your neighbors vote anyway...

BTW.. You should tell him that if he really wanted to help the old man out, he'd do something about those dirty, creepy teeth of his.

McDud is either a closet smoker, closet tobacco chewer, or just has piss-poor dental hygiene. Whatever it is, his teeth are dirty, disgusting and putrid!

[AlphaCentauri]

7. With Universal Health Care

your neighbor won't have to worry about providing health insurance to his employees

[AZBlue]

8. Others have provided links on the tax question - here's another piece of info

for your neighbor: McCain does want to eliminate tax breaks for employers who provide insurance for their employees. Therefore, employer provided insurance will all but disappear - and so will your neighbor's business. Without insurance, most people won't go to the dentist unless they absolutely have to (e.g., their face is swollen to the size of an orange). Routine visits and non-emergency procedures will only be for the very rich.

[FrenchieCat]

9. Print this out and hand it to your neighbor. Tell him it's from the Washington Post!

[QueenOfCalifornia]

18. Thank you.

FrenchieCat, you always post the bestest stuff!

I am going to print this out on post card stock and mail them to my idiot relatives and friends.

xoxo
Gilligan :)

[eshfemme]

10. Yeah, why do small business owners seem to think that the perks

big corporations get from Republican administrations will automatically apply to them? Most often, when you let the big corporations grow, it's the average taxpayer and small businesses that get screwed.

Sure, there's such a thing as empty promises but since Obama's actually someone who's gone far and beyond what any other modern politician has done to try to rid his campaign of any lobbyist influences, I have far more confidence in his ability to deliver on his promises than McCain, the lobbyist darling.

[WinkyDink]

11. A dentist is a Republican? I'm shocked, SHOCKED.

[mikekohr]

12. Sixty Years Of Republican Failure

“THE PARTY WITH THE BEST RECORD OF SERVING REPUBLICAN ECONOMIC VALUES IS THE DEMOCRATS, AND IT ISN’T EVEN CLOSE!” -Michael Kingsley-


1). FEDERAL SPENDING: since 1960 Republicans increased Federal Spending by 71% more than have Democrats

2). FEDERAL DEBT: since 1960 Republicans have increased the National debt by 100% more per year than have Democrats.

3). GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT: since 1921, adjusted for inflation, Democrats out-produce Republicans by 43% . Starting in 1940 the Democratic advantage is 23% better.

4). REAL PER CAPITA INCOME: since 1960 Democrats have outperformed Republicans by 30%. (This is perhaps the most important economic statistic of all)

5). INFLATION: since 1960, Democrats outperform Republicans 3.13% to 3.89%

6). UNEMPLOYMENT: since 1960 it decreases in an average Democratic year by 0.3% to 5.33%, and increases in average Republican year by 1.1% to 6.38%.

7). JOB CREATION: from 1945 to 2003, Democrats produced 174,200 jobs per month, Republicans have only produced 60,600 per month. Every time a Democrat succeeds a Republican, job creation soars. Every time a Republican succeeds a Democrat job creation plummets. NO EXCEPTIONS!

8). DOW JONES AVERAGE: since 1921 the DOW has increased by 52% more under Democratic administrations

9). THE BOND MARKET: since 1940 the value of 10 year Treasury bonds rose 1.2% under Democrats and fell 0.5% under Republicans


SOURCES-Bureau of Labor Statistics, Economic Policy Institute, Christian Science Monitor, “The Los Angles Times -Michael Kingsley-

by mike kohr 3/7/2006

RESULTS MATTER, VOTE DEMOCRATIC!

[mikekohr]

13. Letter To A Darksider

Jim,
As you will see on the graphs below we as a nation were on a steady course to paying off the MASSIVE debt ran up in our fight against Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.

During Jimmy Carter’s last year in office the National Debt was 1.4 trillion dollars. One primary reason I voted for Reagan is because he said he was going to do something about it. True to his word he and George H.W. Bush did, -they tripled it-. They ran up more debt in 12 years than the nation had incurred in over 200 years combined. Congress actually appropriated (spent) less money than Reagan budgeted. Had it not been for the restraint of the Democrats in control of Congress, Reagan’s fiscal stain on America would have been even worse.

GWB outdid both his father and Rapmaster Ronnie, -combined-. George W. Bush is the greatest deficit spender in all of recorded human history.

Credit Card Republicanism is slowly strangling our economy. Using the cash method of accounting, as our government does, our debt is over 9.3 trillion dollars. Using the accrual method of accounting, which all business’ use, our national debt and obligations are in excess of $69 trillion dollars, or about $375,000.00 per working American. You and I will not live long enough to pay that off. We are handing this debt to our children. Shame on us.

All but about 22% of that crippling debt has been incurred by the fiscal policy of the last three Republican presidents. America can not afford another Republican in the White House, at least not another Republican that embraces the fiscal irresponsibility of Reagan/Bush/Bush. McCain, who originally denounced the fiscal policies of GWB, now embraces them.

If you embrace fiscal responsibility, you must renounce and rebuke the fiscal record and policy of the Republican Party of the last 28 years, or risk remaining being part of the problem and not part of the solution.

mike kohr

[zulchzulu]

14. Fuck him

He is an uninformed twit.

[book_worm]

17. Oh well, we can't win em all.