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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:26 PM Original message |
What's the WORST that could happen if Obama picks Clark for VP? Let's think this through. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. Clark isn't even in the running for VP, why do people continue to ponder this? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Because we wish he was. nt |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. He's got a lot of fans. I don't know why. I supported him in 2004, but that |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a fine human being.. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. I think he's a good guy, too, and will probably have a job in Obama's |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Right. The name of VP night at the convention just *happens* |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I don't think Obama's camp would be that obvious. I really don't. |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. You might be correct. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Well, Jack Reed is on the Banking Committee, AND on the Armed Services |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. An ultra liberal Senator from the North East... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Don't know--he has three big drawbacks: |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. lol. Yeah. I was just looking at his photo... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
71. RI has a Republican governor? I thought Carcieri was a Democrat. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
59. And he's from Rhode Island. |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. What don't you like about Gen. Toni Zinni? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Um, I don't think he's a serious consideration. Just being a general isn't enough. |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Yep. What wienerdoggie said. ^^^^^^ nt |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. I agree. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Yep--I like your avatar. Cute beagle!! |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
66. Thank you. She's one of 3. n/t |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. I think that is NOT coincidence. And I think it's the best way for |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Thats my thinking as well. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Absolutely. Nobody's better, imo... |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. If you are then I am too. |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. I don't understand why they would use the exact name of his pac if it's not him n/t |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. And it would be cruel to jerk us around like that. |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. I was reading the Huffington Post article again |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. hmmm. very well could be. |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I was wrong.The page said they released the themes |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. We completely agree on this issue. nt |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. heh. my fingers are crossed!! Obama/Clark 08 n/t |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. I don't think we know |
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Arnold Judas Rimmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Who exactly IS in the running? |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. I think we don't really know who is in the running. Obama's |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. Do we know that for sure? I mean, even the shortlist we got may be questionable. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. Do we know that for sure? I mean, even the shortlist we got may be questionable. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. Ditto - and not only the MSM, but the Reps and McCain's campaign. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. The media response to Clark's statement about McCain proves that |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
6. The MSM drags out Hugh Sheltons comment: |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Well, if he has been vetted, then evidently the Shelton remark doesn't hold water. |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Two problems with that thinking |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
75. I find it hard to believe that the vetting team doesn't have access to ALL publicly made |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Shelton Needs To Back Up That Bullshit |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. The former Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff doesn't have to do anything. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I Know That, And I Agree 100% With Your First Sentence |
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merci_me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. Let's not forget |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. Going after Shelton's record or his creds is not advisable. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
10. He has an upside and a downside, as do they all. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
18. I think that Clark could be a wise choice, as the attacks against him |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
22. It would be up to the campaign to turn the msm bullshit on its head... |
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nsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
24. During the primaries, did Clark say anything about Obama that could be used against him? |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I Think Clark Was More Pro-Hillary Than Anti-Obama |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. I agree. And given how close they are, even being from Arkansas, |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
29. Late Rec Here Because Yes, we Do Need To Think This Through (nt) |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
32. McCain could say |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. How is Wes Clark a Washington Insider? He isn't. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Hey FrenchieCat! Are you getting kind of excited about this, too? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. I will be excited no matter who Obama selects. |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. Just |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Clark is not considered a Washington insider by any means........ |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
43. Wow. It really is impressive how afraid people seem to be of the MSM |
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trewsx11 (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
48. Retired 4-star generals are not VP material |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Explain, Please (nt) |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Could you qualify that comment? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. You're right; they're PRESIDENTIAL material. |
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tokenlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
53. To all of you who repeat the assertion Clark is a lousy politician or some variation... |
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SuperTrouper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. I have a gut feeling that Barack is taking a second look at Wes. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
60. Not Clark! The hint was "safe looking" and he is not n/t |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. He is safe looking. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I would be very happy with Wesley but he is not so safe, he is Clinton friendly tho n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. The hint from whom? No clue Halperin. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
68. No they won't let it go; however, *anyone* Obama chooses would be trashed |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
72. I posted this in the other pro-Clark thread... |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
73. Something happens to Obama and Clinton either tops the ticket |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
74. Picking Clark follows a Rovian modus of making your opponent's strength a weakness |
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