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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:05 PM
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What's Worse Edwards Cheating on his Wife or Bush sending over 4000 Americans to die in a war
Based on a lie.

I know shocking another unfaithful politian, but let's not lose sight of the real problem
BUSH/ MCAIN
I am watching Road to the White House and the First Question David Gregory ask is
"Is this a problem for Obama to OverCOME?"
WTF why is this being linked to OBAMA?
Unbelievable

Let's not go Crazy he only owes an explanation to his wife and she has known since 2006 and she is still with him so, so what.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:07 PM
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1. Thanks for a moment of sanity amid all the hypocrisy.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:22 PM
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11. I wonder how many people on DU who are mad at Edwards right now
Supported Hillary, knowing her husband umm checkered past.

ohhh did I say that?

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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:44 PM
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20. Do you know the difference between being the CHEATER and being the CHEATED ON?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:09 PM
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2. Whats worse Bush sending 4000 Americans to die in a war or the Holocaust?
Let's not go Crazy its not like Bush killed six million Jews.



Isn't that a stupid statement?
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:17 PM
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7. I f Bush had anything to do with it, I am speaking about the present, however
it did come out that his Grandfather funded the Nazis
so I guess it's all connected
all the more reason to keep the focus on Obama Winning in 08
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:11 PM
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3. At least on DU can't we occasionally mention the hundreds of thousands of
innocent Iraqis who have died as well as a result of the invasion? The media ignores this consistently. Should we?
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:19 PM
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9. Over 1.2 million Dead Iraqis I suspect the number is much higher
when you factor in all the un marked graves.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:12 PM
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4. C'mon.... that's not the point
Obviously, one death is worse than infidelity. But what this forum is about at this point is getting a Democrat into the White House. Thank God John Edwards did not become the nominee. As it is, (if you check the msm) this story is damaging to our chances. I could give a rat's ass if John wants Ms. Hunter or Larry Craig either, but I want a Dem in the White House. He was running for pres, debating on stage, while hiding this. He has hurt us.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:30 PM
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17. Hurt us? B.S.
Hurt his wife, yes, us, no.
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:13 PM
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5. that's a tough one
;-P
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:14 PM
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6. Why, little Hitler, of course
But that does not excuse Edwards.

Politicians must be more savvy. But a bunch of them just let their gonads get in the way (see alpha male issue in many of these threads today). Personally and from a taxpayer's point of view, as long as an elected official does the job, it's all good with me. And it SHOULD BE, like the Clintons' debacle, a personal matter. It is not once you step into "public" service and life.

He lied. In public. Many times.

Stupid politician is as stupid politician does.

Infidelity is debilitating to to election process, and if would-be candidates can't keep it in their pants, get the hell out of the running. Fidelity is a prerequisite and should be inquired about during the candidates' vetting process before the party's board.


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FormerConservative Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:27 PM
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15. Thumbs up to you!
I really dislike when people do stuff like this.

Let's say person A shoots 5 people dead.

"Well, at least person A isn't as bad as that guy that shot 10 people."

At least we didn't get a hitler comparison...

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PFunk Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:18 PM
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8. Do we really need to ask.
I'm still shocked at some idiot on one of the left-leaning radio talk shows (Hartman I think) still thought Clinton's BJ on monica was worth impeaching. But Bush with all the crap he's done wasn't. But hey that's the MSM for you. And lets NOT forget what's going on in Georgia with the russians.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:20 PM
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10. Exactly Bush should have been impeached the day he said
I never said Iraq had anything to do with 9/11

They should have drawn up the papers to boot his ass that day!
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:24 PM
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13. U.S. Attacks Russia Through Client State Georgia




Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, August 8, 2008


Georgian forces, trained and equipped by the Pentagon and the U.S. government, killed 10 Russian peacekeepers early this morning in a provocation attack that has escalated into military conflict, but the subsequent corporate media coverage would have us believe that the U.S. and NATO-backed client state Georgia is a helpless victim, when in actual fact a far more nuanced geopolitical strategy is being played out.

Original reports early this morning detailed how Georgian forces had killed 10 Russian peacekeepers and wounded 30 others, which was the provocation for Russian forces to begin military operations, but the fact that Georgian forces were responsible for starting the conflagration has been completely buried in subsequent media coverage.

“Georgia and the Pentagon cooperate closely,” reports MSNBC, “Georgia has a 2,000-strong contingent supporting the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq, and Washington provides training and equipment to the Georgian military.”

The latest exercise, Immediate Response 2008, which took place last month, involved no less than one thousand U.S. troops working with Georgian troops in a war game scenario.

Moreover, the very “Rose Revolution” that brought the Harvard trained pro-US Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvilli to power in 2003 was wholly aided and abetted by the Central Intelligence Agency.
Russian fury at U.S. support for Georgia and Georgia’s aspirations of becoming a NATO member have flared regularly in recent months, with tensions also rising following U.S. attempts to place missile defense shield technology in Poland and the Czech Republic, which most observers agree has nothing to do with Iran and is in fact aimed at countering Russian military superiority in the region.

In addition, the pro-Israeli news source DebkaFile reports that Georgian infantry units were “aided by Israeli military advisors” in capturing the capital of breakaway South Ossetia, Tskhinvali earlier today.
DebkaFile elaborates on the true geopolitical significance behind today’s events.
DEBKAfile’s geopolitical experts note that on the surface level, the Russians are backing the separatists of S. Ossetia and neighboring Abkhazia as payback for the strengthening of American influence in tiny Georgia and its 4.5 million inhabitants. However, more immediately, the conflict has been sparked by the race for control over the pipelines carrying oil and gas out of the Caspian region.
The Russians may just bear with the pro-US Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili’s ambition to bring his country into NATO. But they draw a heavy line against his plans and those of Western oil companies, including Israeli firms, to route the oil routes from Azerbaijan and the gas lines from Turkmenistan, which transit Georgia, through Turkey instead of hooking them up to Russian pipelines.
Jerusalem owns a strong interest in Caspian oil and gas pipelines reach the Turkish terminal port of Ceyhan, rather than the Russian network. Intense negotiations are afoot between Israel Turkey, Georgia, Turkmenistan and Azarbaijan for pipelines to reach Turkey and thence to Israel’s oil terminal at Ashkelon and on to its Red Sea port of Eilat. From there, supertankers can carry the gas and oil to the Far East through the Indian Ocean.

Former Treasury Secretary under Ronald Reagan, Paul Craig Roberts, told The Alex Jones Show today that the entire scenario smacked of a maneuver on behalf of the Neo-Con faction controlling the White House, led by Dick Cheney. Roberts said the date was precisely picked due to the distraction of the Olympics and Bush being out of the country.
Both Condoleezza Rice and John McCain have today demanded Russia withdraw its forces from Russia immediately.

Meanwhile, the U.S. media networks are seemingly more interested in the complete non-story of John Edwards having an affair, while a conflict that could have devastating and thunderous geopolitical consequences fizzes on the verge of explosion.

As of early Friday evening, Edwards’ extramarital shenanigans were dominating CNN and Fox News, while Drudge also afforded the story more prominence that the situation in Georgia, which was also deemed less important than the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympics.
One of our readers contributed the following, which explains in detail exactly what is unfolding.
Most folks on here can not or will not look up the history or facts for themselves …morons..
Those who dont learn from history are destined to repeat it..
In 1992, Georgia was forced to accept a ceasefire to avoid a large scale confrontation with Russia. The government of Georgia and South Ossetian separatists reached an agreement to avoid the use of force against one another, and Georgia pledged not to impose sanctions against South Ossetia.
A peacekeeping force of Ossetians, Russians and Georgians was established at the time. And late in 1992 the OSCE set up a mission in Georgia to monitor the peacekeeping operation.
From then, until mid-2004, South Ossetia was generally peaceful.
In June 2004, tensions began to rise as the Georgian authorities strengthened their efforts against smuggling in the region. Hostage takings, shootouts and occasional bombings left dozens dead and wounded.
A ceasefire deal was reached on August 13, but it has been repeatedly violated.
Tensions in the region soared in 2008 and outbreaks of violence became increasingly frequent in the border area.
Georgia said it was an internal affair as the breakaway republic had never been recognized internationally.
The Georgian side repeatedly insisted the conflict could be resolved without outside interference.
However, early on August 8 Georgia launched a massive military offensive to take control of the republic.
A quote from another Reuters
At an emergency session of the United Nations on Thursday night, Russia failed to push through a statement that would have called on both sides to stop fighting immediately.
Council diplomats said a phrase calling on all sides to “renounce the use of force” had been unacceptable to the Georgians, backed by the United States and the Europeans.
UK Times online:

Mr Saakashvili, a US-educated lawyer who succeeded Eduard Shevardnadze in 2004 and has since tried to align it more closely to the West, compared the Russian action with the invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 and appealed to the outside world to intervene.

“Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory,” he told CNN as Russian armour rolled into South Ossetia.
“It’s not about Georgia anymore. It’s about America, its values: we are a freedom-loving nation that is right now under attack.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-attac...e-georgia.html

WAKE UP PEOPLE!
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:23 PM
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12. Edwards co-sponsoring the bill that sent them to war. That's what's worse.
I have no sympathy for that empty suit, but this scandal is just idiotic.

Who freakin cares about his private life?

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sourmilk Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:25 PM
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14. Gregory: "Is this a problem for Obama to OverCOME?"
Dobbs:
"I don't know, David. Wolf, we'd ask him, but Obama's on vacation. Let's ask John McPorkAnythingOnTwoLegs HIS opinion on Edwards' infidelity, instead."


:rofl:

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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:29 PM
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16. Oh, come on.
People get to have an opinion about the Edwards thing. Of course it's not comparable to Bush's crimes—nobody's suggesting that.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:37 PM
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18. indeed
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:39 PM
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19. The war that John Edwards helped authorize right?
To hell with them both!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:50 PM
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21. I supported Edwards in the primary, but I'm deeply disappointed in him.
Not so much for his affair per se, but for risking another four years of Republican rule by running for office when you're having an affair.

I don't have any idea what transpired between him and his wife and when. But I would imagine this added deeply to her pain? I can't accept the "yeah sure my wife has cancer, but I have a large ego that needed a strokin' ..." crap.

As Jack Cafferty said "imagine if he'd have been the nominee, he'd have taken Democrats down with him."

Edwards is still being dishonest IMO. You don't meet a woman in a hotel room, who you are no longer having an affair with, in order to see a child that is not yours.

To his credit, he announced it NOW, and hopefully we'll get this out of the way soon, i.e. long before the election.

Elizabeth if you're reading DU these days, my heart goes out to you and your family.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:23 PM
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24. Adding to my post that I may not know all the facts and I don't want to
jump to conclusions. Elizabeth Edwards claims she was diagnosed after the affair, and has asked for privacy. As such I will not personally comment on this matter going foward.

I feel I should post her reply here as well: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/8/193337/7354/473/564989
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:58 PM
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22. I am disappointed, I'll admit...
but I'm also disappointed that Morgan Freeman was cheating on his wife--I'll still watch his movies. I'll just look at him a little differently.

and "big picture"-- JFK was an awesome President, he'd never have made it today...
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:00 PM
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23. THANK YOU for putting it all in perspective! nt
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:27 PM
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25. What's worse: Someone robbing an old lady or someone raping a child?
Answer: They are both wrong.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:37 PM
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26. Edwards HELPED Bush send our troops to war
Do you really want to go there?
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