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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:11 PM
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Wife of Vietnam vet shows how you take on an Obama hate email...
This is a message I received from a woman who is a friend of some of my relatives the other day. She gave me permission to use it in full. I have pasted her response and below it the Obama chain letter she received. I have removed the names of the person who wrote this, her husband, and the person she was replying back to for privacy purposes. - Bill


Name removed:

I think he would have a hard time denying he had a black father as he hardly looks like his white atheist mother or her parents. When I saw his grandmother in Kenya interviewed she seemed proud, as I would be that he is a candidate. He is well educated and certainly appears to be very intelligent. I know many dislike him because he is part black. Does the color of the skin affect brain power? It is not easy for a half white child to fit into the white community, that I know.....Even in Montana. As for his million dollar home, we have some hard-working young American families who do too in our family, I am proud to say. That should be called the American way.

He has a fresh outlook for the future of America, that has to try to pull our country that we all care about, to try to become a part of what it was just eight years ago when the oil tycoons and their buddies decided to become even more greedy and cost our country it's livelihood our men and women for several generations served gallantly to save from destruction. Not to forget the wonderful job our Military people are doing today in behalf of we citizens who hardly recognize we are a Country at War, while we merrily go on without any crimping in our style of living. Bush inc. has done the job that the Japanese, Italians and German dictators couldn't do to our country.
To me the henchmen who have run this country for eight long years and now have a candidate willing to give us eight more years of the same have done much more destruction to the economy, our military and every other aspect of what we knew and loved about this USA than any of us will ever know. Nor will we survive and return to the level we had before Bush went to the Oval Office in our lifetime. Consider our borders open and our immigration program a thing of the past and like it!

For the week Obama visited overseas I listened to every speech McCain gave and not one thing was mentioned about what his plan for our future would be. He could only badmouth Obama in every verbal statement he made.....while he continues to argue every point Obama brings up. What poor speech writers, but I understand he can't use the usual props most speakers use. I cannot believe after hearing what he said that he could continue to be so mouthy during this campaign and still never say anything, even to promote himself as a candidate.....

McCain has SUCH A NASTY MOUTHY CAMPAIGN!! I gave him credit for being a POW and always had a soft spot in my heart for him until I read his record of voting in the US Senate on Veteran issues. He doesn't vote as a Hero! He has voted against the Veterans in every piece of legislation available while strongly believing in the Iraq war and continuing to make more casualties among our loyal troops. His point he continues to make is that the surge works........ Well, with between 90,000 and 100,000 Sunni Iraqis on the monthly US payroll for avoiding conflicts I haven't heard him mention that too may also be a reason for less involvement over there, right?

With 4 out of 5 Service people returning from Iraq with PTSD this WAR is totally wrong. I know, I lived with that for 30 years! It took 10 years after Viet Nam for my husband (I replaced name with "husband" for privacy reasons) to be recognized by the Veterans Administration with PTSD before receiving any care and he was the first in Montana to be recognized. PTSD caused him to be a different person who barely can survive on his own plus having had two huge Cancer surgeries and a totally different personality than before. How many more are like him?? Our Veterans need attention from all of us and immediate care for PTSD.

I believe in my right to attend any church of my choice, or not to attend, is my civil right. I believe everyone else should share that privilege. I am a firm believer Church and State are to be separated. Our country was founded on beliefs of the Bible, and it served well for 200 or more years. Let's let it continue to be that way.

When John McCain ran against George Bush we listened and thought he had his head on straight but now he is continuously shouting hot air. Nothing he says makes sense. Listen to him. He has lost whatever he did have! God help us all if he leads this country in the next four years!
God Bless America
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The Obama email:

MAYBE I'VE GOTT'N THIS ALL WRONG -
ME JUST BE'N AN OLD FARM BOY WITHOUT MUCH EDUCATION...BUT NOW, Y'ALL CHECK THIS OUT:


HIS FATHER WAS A KENYAN, A MUSLIM, AND A BLACK- WE SEEN ALL THOSE PICTURES OF HIS NICE AFRICAN FAMILY.


HIS MOTHER IS KANSAN, ATHEIST, AND
WHITE. SO - WHERE ARE ALL THOSE PICTURES OF HIS NICE WHITE MOTHER
AND HIS NICE WHITE GRANDPARENTS - THE ONES WHO RAISED HIM ALL THOSE EARLY YEARS?



HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER AND HIM WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG AND MOVED
BACK TO LIVE WITH HIS FAMILY IN KENYA (THAT'S THE ONES IN THE PICTURES).



HIS WHITE MOTHER THEN MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MUSLIM AND TOOK HIM
TO THE CITY OF JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS FIRST SCHOOLED IN A MUSLIM SCHOOL .


HIS MOTHER THEN MOVED TO HAWAII AND HE WAS RAISED BY HIS WHITE MIDDLE-AMERICAN GRANDPARENTS THERE.


UMMM...NOW HERE'S THE HARD PART FOR ME (HELP ME OUT HERE, IF YOU CAN):


SOMEHOW, SUDDENLY - HE WENT TO THE BEST HIGH DOLLAR PREP SCHOOLS IN AMERICA, AND LATER, HE GOT INTO A TOP IVY LEAGUE COLLEGE AND LATER, INTO HARVARD LAW SCHOOL - HOW? WHO SPONSORED HIM? WHO PAID FOR ALL THAT SCHOOLING? (HAVE YOU LOOKED AT TUITION EXPENSES TO ATTEND
UNDERGRADUATE YALE LATELY? HOW ABOUT HARVARD LAW SCHOOL ?
SOMEBODY PAID A LOT OF BUCKS FOR THIS KID'S IVY LEAGUE EDUCATION.......) WHO?


A SENATOR'S SALARY IS NOT THAT GREAT, BUT THIS YOUNG MAN AND HIS YOUNG
WIFE PRESENTLY LIVE IN A $1.4 MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE THAT HE ACQUIRED THROUGH A "DEAL" WITH A WEALTHY FUND RAISER.


WHAT SORT OF "DEAL"?


RIGHT OUT OF HARVARD LAW, HE "WORKED" AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO .



HE THEN ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN MOVED TO THE NATIONAL LEVEL - WHERE HE SCRAMBLES TODAY WITH VERY MINIMAL EXPERIENCE IN ANYTHING - WHILE OTHER PEOPLE WRITE HIS SPEECHES FOR HIM.


IN ALL HIS TIME IN THE STATE AND NATIONAL LEGISLATURES - HE'S NEVER LAUNCHED ANY IMPORTANT LEGISLATION WHATSOEVER. MOSTLY, HE'S OUT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.


HE CLAIMS TO BE "PROUD OF HIS AFRICAN HERITAGE" BUT IT SEEMS THAT HIS ONLY
CONNECTION WITH AFRICA WAS THAT HIS AFRICAN FATHER GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND THEN DESERTED HER.


UMMM....WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS WHITE
HERITAGE? AFTER ALL - IT WAS WHITE GRANDPARENTS THAT RAISED HIM!



HE IS PRESENTLY A MEMBER (FOR OVER 20 YEARS!) OF AN "AFROCENTRIC" CHURCH
IN CHICAGO THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLD'S FAULTS.


HE REPEATEDLY COVERED UP FOR THAT PASTOR AND THAT CHURCH - SAYING THAT HE CAN SEPARATE THE RELIGION FROM THE POLITICS, WHEN HE HEARS A HATE-WHITEY SERMON.


HE CLAIMED THAT HE WAS SIMPLY UNABLE TO CONFRONT HIS PASTOR OF 20+ YEARS ABOUT THE PASTOR'S DEMONSTRATED UN-AMERICAN BIAS, BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE THAT HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN , WHEN THE TIME
ARISES TO TAKE AMERICA'S SIDE.


YEAH - WITH THIS BACKGROUND AND
EXPERIENCE, HE "HOPES" THAT HE COULD BE A UNITER AND BRING US ALL TOGETHER;



BUT - I THINK THAT THE REAL "HOPE" IS, THAT HE REALLY HOPES, THAT NO ONE WILL PUT ALL THESE PIECES TOGETHER, UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION...........
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:29 PM
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1. LOL the original Email is hillarious
So full of almost facts. Nice letter in response though.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:35 PM
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2. I know. Jeez. It takes a brave woman to stand up to that kind of bull-headed dumbness.
"blacks"? What year is this?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:40 PM
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4. no kidding
They might as well have said "colored folk" and burned a cross.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:00 PM
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11. no shoot -- i believe the preferred nomenclature is coloreds..
man, i hope my mom doesn't send this to me.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:39 PM
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3. that's what makes me mad about those
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 01:10 PM by Wetzelbill
So many half-truths and lies. You could honestly spend all day debunking that stuff, and then sometimes it's hard to debunk a negative. Or it's hard to debunk something that doesn't make sense in the first place. I had one lady insisting that Obama had a "Muslim" name. I'm exasperated telling her that somebody can't have a Muslim name, because a Muslim is an adherent of Islam, not a place where a name comes from. His name is African Swahili which borrowed it's roots from Arabic, and so you could maybe say his name has Arabic and even Jewish (Barack similar to Barak as in Ehud Barak) roots. But Islam is a religion, Arabic names pre-date the existence of that religion. It's like saying "John" is a Catholic name, even though people (John the Baptist?) were named John before Catholicism existed. Duh!

But you could spend forever explaining something and it's like talking to a brick wall anyway, lol.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:00 PM
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7. It's really pointless anyway. Those kinds of people just want to believe what they want to believe.
They'll only seek out and accept information that supports there limited worldview.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:46 PM
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5. Whoever would have sent me that original email would of
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 12:47 PM by sellitman
gotten a loud FU from me. They would of also been unable to ever send me another email as they would of been added to my spam list.

What a rotten piece of crap racist hit job!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:52 PM
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6. Obama running has brought out the ugliest side of our
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 01:09 PM by Wetzelbill
national character. I think Bush opened the door for ignorance to be cool, and then 9/11 opened it up to be racist against Arabic people and to fear everything different than us even more than we did before. Then the vitriol spread to Mexicans and the border issue, and Obama running has brought out overt racism. These last 8 years have not been pretty. And also don't overlook Hillary and Nancy Pelosi and sexism too. It's cool to hate women again as well. It's cool to hate liberals, and to rail against them until some disturbed person shoots up a church. Yeah, hate is all fun and games to these people.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:07 PM
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8. Yes, but despite all the hate, Obama is still the presumed Dem nominee, Pelosi is still Speaker of
the House, and Hillary made a decent run. I think that's something to hold on to!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:12 PM
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9. definitely, partly because look at what the GOP brings to the table
They finally got all the power and more that they ever dreamed of and we found out the obvious. Republicans can't govern. Not even close.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:21 PM
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10. yep. That's the beauty of it. They can lie and twist the truth as much as they can
but eventually it comes back to haunt them.
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