Why is Cindy McLame always with her husband?

[KansasVoter]

Am I wrong or is she constantly at all of his events? Is it to remind people he has a young wife? Or to make him look less old?

Isn't Michelle Obama doing her own appearances without Barack?

[XemaSab]

1. John's the only one allowed to hold the remote?

:shrug:

[Alter Ego]

48. Goddamn you.

You beat me to it.

I was going to say that John's the only one that knows how to change her batteries.

[berni_mccoy]

56. LOL!

[berni_mccoy]

57. I'm rec'ing this thread just for this comment. ROFL

[azurnoir]

2. Could it be she knows how she got him? n/t

[proud patriot]

9. His cheating heart

[Virginia Dare]

78. Whatever happened to that little vixen Vicky whatsername?

she's keeping a low profile isn't she? Perhaps Vicky got a nice little bonus to disappear for a while.

[DeeDeeNY]

101. Vicki Iseman

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/20/vicki-iseman-who-is-mcca_n_87692.html

[DJ13]

3. She's older than his first wife now

Maybe she doesnt trust him around 20 something female reporters for some reason?

[Gabi Hayes]

4. It all Depends....

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=29142170

[SwampG8r]

5. he might lose her in a poker game

and she doesnt want to miss it

[Ewellian]

6. When I see them

she always seems to be walking three steps behind him. Creepy.

[Gabi Hayes]

7. not always. sometimes she rides:

[NanceGreggs]

8. Just MHO, but ...

As we have all noted to some degree or another, this man is not mentally "with it" - forgetfulness, inability to focus, etc. I suspect he is probably in the early stages of Alzheimer's or dementia.

Cindy would be the best person to know when he's having a "bad day", is more prone to gaffes, periods of confusion - she has probably been dealing with these problems for quite some time, and recognizes the warning signals. Who better to be close-at-hand, able to monitor his behaviour and alert his "handlers" that it's time to end a meeting with reporters, or an appearance at an event, sooner rather than later?

It's long been acknowledged that she didn't want him to run in the first place, and this is probably why. Despite what we may think of either of them, I think she is honestly devoted to the old coot - and is concerned for his wellbeing, as the stress of campaigning is likely to exacerbate already-existing problems.

As I said, it's just my opinion ...

[Gabi Hayes]

10. I think she's consumed by ambition, and, as the female scion of an authentic, up-from-the-roots

crime family, used to the double life, well-accustomed to living a lie

she's even had her own brush with the law, and is very accomplished in using the media as a foil

her peckishness has been exposed, however, and her likability numbers are nowhere near those of Laura, who share a real 'dis-affinity,' along with their spouses

I'd love to be behind the scenes when those four get together


I see more than a few shades of Cawdor castle in this tale of ambition and hatred:

For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

Oliver Stone should have waited til this Shakespearean drama unfolded til he made his latest movie

[NanceGreggs]

15. Consumed by ambition?

She's long had the money, social status, and influential connections necessary to pursue any ambition she might have had. And she hasn't.

I think the last thing on earth this woman wants is to be First Lady, living in a fishbowl where her every move is open to scrutiny. She has always been more than content with her role as "the wife of", a darling of the country club set, free to dish with the girls and not be taken seriously on any topic other than her fashion sense and a flair for decorating.

[Gabi Hayes]

22. if that's the case, why didn't she kick back, enjoy the life on the social scene there?

she's the CEO of the company, which, even if handed to one as a matter of primogeniture, requires more than a dilettante's managing style. and her charity certainly wasn't done for 'charitable' purposes, when you take into account what happened, and what the eventual climax of that sordid tale was.

you may be right, but I don't see it that way; she's Lady Macbeth

I choose to see it in her eyes, as long as we're making it with the two bit psychologizing

can't I have some fun with this?

be nice.....don't make me feel any more inadequate than I already do

[NanceGreggs]

27. I am the last person on earth ...

... who would stand in the way of someone having some fun - with just about anything!

I'm just debating the point that she is "consumed with ambition", when her personal history does nothing to bear that out.

She obviously has problems with self-esteem - if she didn't, she would have dumped the Oldster the first time he publicly humiliated her. What "consumed with ambition" woman - especially one with her own fortune, and not dependent on her 'man' for financial survival - would stand still for being called a trollop and a c*nt in a public forum, and NOT make a grand show of filing for divorce the next day?

There is just nothing in Cindy's past behaviour that lends credence to the idea of being "consumed with ambition" - in fact, there is nothing that points to her having ANY ambition at all, other than being the daughter-of and the wife-of men who have ambitions of their own.

But carry on, my friend, and have a good time all the time!

:hi:

[Gabi Hayes]

28. I don't think you credit enough her running that very large company . that

among some other activities you'll see listed below, is evidence to me of great ambibition; again, why else take on a job like that when it's completely unnecessary?

and, unless they have a completely dysfunctional relationship, (very possible, given just the publicized nature of his actions toward her), with her role being that of a subservient cum masochistic pawn in his own megalomaniacal ambition, the possibility that she has great ambition of her own seems as likely to me (and a more plausible explanation) the reason for her apallingly meek and public submission to his embarrassing public behavior. She's got to be really, really f***** up go along with the sorts of mistreatment to which she's been subjected over the years.

race car driver, pilot, special ed teacher, CEO of billion dollar company/charitable foundation, single mom (in effect, as she spent most of his 26 years in DC back in AZ). that's plenty of evidence for me that she, if not ambitious, was sublimating her deep unhappiness in the guise of ambitious supermom/ceo. and this began at the very beginning of their marriage, so, unless things were bad from the getgo, 'ambition,' self-actualization, whatever you choose to call it, fits the bill for me more closely than what you've described.

what do you have in concrete terms to support your own interpretation?

[NanceGreggs]

29. Merely the fact that ...

... she has always had the financial wherewithal, and the influential connections, to have made herself the subject of headlines for decades.

And she hasn't.

"The possibility that she has great ambition of her own seems as likely to me (and a more plausible explanation) the reason for her apallingly meek and public submission to his embarrassing public behavior."

"Great ambition of her own" coupled with "meek and public submission"? Sorry, does not compute.

[Gabi Hayes]

32. that's what I meant. they aren't supposed to conflate. they're the mutually exclusive

explanations

I provided what seems to me to be evidence of her very active (some might say compulsive....ambitious?) lifestyle, which doesn't comport with the passive persona you describe

I used some examples of what she's done: behaviorial/observational

what's the basis for your explanation, other than her public appearances of late?

I'm trying to present an empirical basis for my armchair appraisal

btw, wouldn't it be swell if she could read these microscopic analyses of the deepest crevices of her personality? I'd feel sorry for her if I didn't hold her and her hub in such crustally low regard. what symbols for all that's wrong with so many aspects of modern day life, starting with the political process, moving on to the power of corporate media, without whom this creepy, venal poseur would never have gotten as far as he has.

[Divine Discontent]

17. you stole the words outta my mouth

and wrote them into a much more legitimately palatable read! LOL...

you wordsmith you!

luv ya Nance...

[Marrah_G]

35. I actually completely agree with your post.

[Mira]

44. Just what I was thinking - except I think the devotion you mention is self -interest

Being first lady is not something she can "charge" on her cards....

[PA Democrat]

77. There were a lot of stories about Nancy Reagan's role in keeping Ronnie's

failing mental capacities from the media while he was in office. I recall that she would often stand behind him and whisper answers to questions from the press during press conferences. A lot of people said that she and his staff were essentially making most of the decisions during his second term.

Maybe Cindy is doing something similar, helping him make campaign decisions. He certainly seems to have slipped since his 2000 campaign.

[Rincewind]

11. Because she knows

That a man who will cheat with you, will cheat on you.

[ladeyday]

31. Why would she even care if that old "white hair dude" cheated?

We ARE talking about John McCain here, right? Who'd want him?

[Marrah_G]

36. Apparently she does.

Love is a funny thing. None of us knows what goes on between them.

[Virginia Dare]

79. Just judging from her appearance..

I would say she probably has a very large ego and a high opinion of herself. She probably was mortified when it became semi-public that Johnny boy was out jogging (I call it running around). I think she's keeping him on a short leash.

[nc4bo]

55. pardon the phrase "I just threw up in my mouth a little bit".

But it's true, I did.

:puke:

[Justitia]

12. It keeps her out of the medicine cabinet.

[OwnedByFerrets]

13. I would imagine she is so farking tired of this

crap. Whats in this for her? She has to be a stepford wife....well...not really....a stepford wife would be better looking.

[nutsnberries]

14. isn't it because....

he needs a personal assistant?

i thought i had read this or heard this somewhere... since he can't raise his arms, he can't dress himself, he can't comb his hair, etc. You never know what might happen out on the trail everyday. Getting help from someone can kind of make him look McLame whereas it can be a loving gesture coming from Cindy.

[SoCalDem]

16. Old guys always like their trophy wives hanging on to them

Here they are.. she's not looking so "trophy-ish" and he's looking lamer than usual

[ladeyday]

34. There are trophies for last place

They look the same age in that picture. Goodness!

[Marrah_G]

37. It is possible for there to be real love between an older man and a younger woman.

[SoCalDem]

38. especially when she's got lots of money..

political office is expensive:)

[Marrah_G]

39. Money never hurts - There is probably more there then we can see

They may truly love each other.

[LostinVA]

40. Or an older woman and a younger woman?

This discrimination on DU pisses me off. Especially since MANY DUers have a significant age difference between them and their spouses. There is the same age difference between me and my wife, and neither of us sure as hell married the other for money, and since our relationship started on here and turned into a long-distance relationship, it certainly wasn't about the wild sex.

[Marrah_G]

41. Ack sorry- I didn't mean to exclude you!

[LostinVA]

71. I always knew you were homophobic!

:pals:

[Debi]

58. That's just disgusting

How do you live with yourself???





:hide:

[LostinVA]

60. At least I don't have old man hands

PEV!

:spank:

[Debi]

84. I don't have old man hands

What the hell are you talking about???

I'M the TROPHY!! :bounce:

[blondeatlast]

63. Word. Love is love and you better hold on to it when you find it.

I'm older than Mr. B@L and people think there is something so very wrong about that. OTOH, we've been happily married far longer than most couples we know, so go figure.

Say "hi" to the Mrs. for me--she is certainly missed around these parts! :hi:

[LostinVA]

67. Yup, I know what you mean

Our families and friends don't even pay attention to the age difference, but I know other people think it's "wrong." Over the years I've been on DU, I've seen so many threads and posts saying how it's pathetic, sick, wrong, creepy, whatever. Haruka loves me, Mr. DEbi loves Debi (God knows why -- hehehehehhehehe), and Mr. BaL loves YOU. That's all that matters, that we all have found love and it's real. Some people can't get that love is love.

I loathe McCain, but I don't think the 18-year age difference is something to pick on... especially since, as DEbi said, most of the Dem men running this year have "trophy wives."

I'll make sure she sees your "hi"!

[Debi]

85. ALERT

:grr:

[LostinVA]

87. What????

:spank:

[Debi]

89. Whatever

cradle robber :eyes:

[LostinVA]

93. Dirty young robbee pev

Luring your Mr. Debi with your youthful wiles. The poor man never had a chance -- believe me, I know.

:sigh:

[Debi]

96. Yes it's true

I am evil to the core :evilgrin:

and I KNOW Haruka is too!!!

[LostinVA]

98. Duh -- of course she is

:eyes:

You two are pevvy peas in a pod.

[Debi]

100. Yeah, but I'm not gay like that

it's how you tell us apart.

[Debi]

54. I wonder how many of these posts between now and November? n/t

[Debi]

53. Yep, look at these old guys with their trophy wives, what assholes!

We as Democrats MUST NOT tolerate this kind of behavior!

[blondeatlast]

61. Can't you just feel the warmth in that photo?

I just turned my air conditioner off after seeing that...

[Divine Discontent]

18. other than with what NanceGreggs said

I believe it also lightens up his harsh appearance. He's scary looking, to be frank (hi frank!), and she's a good looking woman, so they attempt to humanize him as not being so cranky/nasty this way.

[goodgd_yall]

19. To keep her eye on him

She doesn't trust him.

[bunnies]

70. Yep. Because he's a cheating piece of shit. nt

[FrenchieCat]

20. Who's raising the youngest daughter still in high school?

:shrug:

[RNdaSilva]

21. She's a stand-in for Lieberman...

she's supposed to nudge him when he makes a gaffe. Problem being, she's slow on the uptake.

[jillan]

23. Is she young? I always thought she was almost as old as him.

Being a beer heiress buys one alot of face-lifts and liposuction.

[kristyt]

25. A little too much plastic surgery

[jillan]

26. Welcome to DU!

[Mira]

45. 17 years younger

[Debi]

59. 17 year age difference

Sound close to anyone else we might know????

I hate these threads x(

[LostinVA]

68. ME! You and MarrahG are the sickos!!!!

And Mentalsolstice. PEVS.

[kristyt]

24. Age...although she looks old as shit

She's much smarter than he is though.

[kskiska]

46. She's 54.

He'll be 72 on August 29.

[LostinVA]

72. She had an extremely severe stroke four yaers ago

[Norrin Radd]

30. I wonder about that, too. Hrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmhhhh?

[quakerboy]

33. Maybe so that we don't assume that

he is a literal puppet? It would be much harder to keep the strings untangled and still hidden when there are 2 full sized bodies to be manipulated, I am sure.

[NewJeffCT]

42. In case he forgets his talking points

she can help him out easier than anybody else

[DRoseDARs]

43. Someone has 2 b on-hand 2 wind him back up. He can't call just any woman a cunt. It has 2 b his wife

Otherwise, the media might take notice that he's an asshole.

[rox63]

47. I think it's partly to help him her husband

and partly because she would have a hard time handling her own events. She had a stroke several years back, and although she appears to have recovered well, she still has short-term memory problems. So she might not be able to give speeches on her own.

[Vinca]

49. She probably realizes how fast the presidency ages a person

and figures she'll be able to trade in McBush for a younger model sooner rather than later if he manages to win.

[bunkerbuster1]

50. A tight rein is required for both of them.

Easier to keep them in one place.

She'd probably go horribly off-message if she were to do a lot of speechifyin' on her own, but I could be wrong. One thing's for sure; she's no Michele Obama. (Or Elizabeth Edwards, or Bill Clinton, for that matter.)

[demokatgurrl]

51. To make him look young. n/t

[Debi]

52. Or they are married and like to be together

nah.....we know all married couples hate each other :eyes:

[LostinVA]

69. Haruka married me for my money

She blew through my $500 in a month, dude.

[Debi]

81. On yogurt

:P

[LostinVA]

88. She got that for free

:eyes:

[Debi]

102. Well, we all know what image will be stuck in MY MIND for the REST OF THE DAY

x(

[LostinVA]

104. Yay! It worked!

[Debi]

106. You are awful!

:hug: and that's why I :loveya: you!

[LostinVA]

107. I know I am!

And, I know that's why!

:pals:
:spank:

[Overseas]

62. Yes just to show how young he is and show off lovey-dovey family values

because he dumped his first wife who was disfigured in an accident after carrying on an affair with Cindy the petite blonde heiress.

[geiger]

64. when you have that much money, you can do whatever you want. but she looks equally cadaver to me.

yuk. she looks like a dracula person.

[livetohike]

65. To remind him to take his meds on time

:shrug: They do seem to be attached at the hip. Maybe she's literally supporting him when he has to stand up for long periods of time.

[KansasVoter]

73. I think you are right!

[polichick]

66. Because he sees her as a "thing" to be used to further his career.

[Franc_Lee]

74. McCain looks so weak without somebody by his side, he should grab Lieberman to break it up?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

75. She' keeping an eye on the family's investment.

[TwilightGardener]

76. She's his primary caregiver. Someone has to remind the old fart

to take his blood pressure pills and show him where the bathroom is.

[David Zephyr]

80. To keep Lindsey Graham away from John.

;-)

[Name removed]

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[City Lights]

82. She's there to help steady him when he's walking. At least when going

up and down stairs.

[Barack_America]

86. Because she knows his tendencies to stray from his marriage(s).

That's how she bagged him, after all.

[zanne]

90. She has to make sure he doesn't get lost. nt

[Generator]

91. Emergency afternoon delight

It's all about the dick with these politicians. If the wife isn't giving it-then you know what happens. She's wise to be on hand I guess if she doesn't want him giving it to a staffer, I, however would be elsewhere. First wife with no duties is better if you get my drift. Especially with someone like Mc Evil.

[snooper2]

92. He like to keep his friends close

and his mc-cunts closer :rofl:

[ladywnch]

94. standing next to him MAKES him look OLDER!!!

then again, standing next to anything but a 10 year old corpse makes him older!

[TheDonkey]

95. make him look less scary/old/boring

[kristyt]

97. One Word: Viagra

[JBoy]

99. You never know when a topless biker pageant might spring up.

[Debi]

103. Great Post!!!

:spray:

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

105. She's probably afraid that she'll get into a tragic car accident where she'd be

afflicted with several life-altering deformities and maladies...and that McSame would go off to fuck and marry some millionaire beer baroness...











...oh, wait... :shrug: