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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:22 PM
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Obama Kicks McSAME`s Ass In Latest TIME Poll!
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 02:31 PM by Hope And Change

TIME

New National Numbers


Wednesday, August 6th, 2008

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1829948,00.html">From the latest TIME poll:

Obama 46, McCain 41
http://thepage.time.com/more-on-latest-time-poll/">Read more — including which candidate has made gains since June — here.

Dates conducted: July 31-August 4. Error margin: 3 points.


http://thepage.time.com/2008/08/06/new-national-numbers-34/">Link
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:23 PM
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1. I wouldn't call 5-points an ass kicking. I thought by your title he'd be leading by 10+.
I'll take it, don't get me wrong, but far from kicking ass.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:26 PM
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2. Yep, this is within the margin of error still
OF course, nearly every poll is within the margin of error.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:28 PM
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4. But it's a lead.
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 02:29 PM by Drunken Irishman
I'd rather Obama lead 46-41 over him trailing 46-41.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 04:13 PM
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19. But it's not "ass kicking"
and since it's wihtin the margin of error, it's barely a lead.

Put two more points up, and then we're talkin'!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:28 PM
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3. So a small lead within the MoE is "kicking ass?"
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:29 PM
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5. Are you blind?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:30 PM
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6. Possibly.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:32 PM
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7. The questions asked in the poll at the link do suggest an ass kicking:
–Asked which candidate is most likeable, Obama beats McCain 65% to 20%.

–Asked which is the real candidate for change, Obama leads 61% to 17%.

–Obama beats McCain 48% to 35% on who understands voters’ concerns best.

–On the economy, Obama leads McCain 43%-39%, compared to 44%-37% reported by TIME’s poll in June.

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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:35 PM
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8. At last somebody read that!Horayyyyyyyyyyy!Geeezzzz.
Thank you Tekisui.If people took the time like you to click on the links to read more about the poll they would be more positive.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:44 PM
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10. Buzz off....MOE is 3...learn to read. nt
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:36 PM
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9. Time's own headline for poll details: "Trouble Signs in Obama's Lead"
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1829948,00.html

After two weeks of sharpened attacks between the campaigns, Barack Obama is maintaining a narrow 5% lead over John McCain in the race for the White House, a new TIME poll shows. Overall, the poll shows Obama leading McCain 46% to 41% when undecided voters with a slight preference are included (the margin of error was plus or minus three percentage points). That gap is the same as the presumptive Democratic nominee held in June.

With three months to go before election day, Obama's advantage is largest on atmospheric issues: he is seen as far more likeable and a greater force for change than McCain. Asked which candidate is most likeable, Obama beats McCain 65% to 20%; as for which is the real candidate for change, he leads 61% to 17%. Obama also beats McCain 48% to 35% on who understands voters' concerns best, another key indicator of appeal.

But on specific issues, Obama is treading water or sinking a bit. On the number one issue of the campaign right now, the economy, Obama leads McCain 43%-39%, compared to 44%-37% reported by TIME's poll in June. Despite his highly touted tour of Europe, the Middle East and Afghanistan last month, Obama may be in something of a late summer slump. The poll shows that voters have increased their faith in McCain's ability to manage the Iraq war, favoring him over Obama by a margin of 51%-36%, a five point jump since June. And voters boosted their belief that McCain would do a better job in managing the war on terror than they did in June, favoring the Arizona Senator over his colleague from Illinois by a 56%-29% margin, up from 53%-33% in June.

Obama did get good news from some segments of the population. Women now favor him by ten percentage points over McCain, 49%-39%. That seems to quell the notion that women would penalize Obama for beating Hillary Clinton in the primary. And Obama is holding his own with males, as he and McCain split them 43% each. McCain is leading Obama by seven points, 47%-40% among white voters, but that is well short of George W. Bush's 58%-41% edge over John Kerry in exit polls from the 2004 election. Obama, meanwhile, is getting the votes of 85% of blacks to McCain's 6%.

-snip-



I think women have favored Obama over McCain in all, or almost all, the polls. But he should be favored by a wider margin -- there are lots of polls showing Obama isn't getting the full support of Clinton's female voters.

I'm glad he has some lead among women, though, and is tied with McCain with male voters.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:48 PM
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14. Amazing - the race was tied a few days ago, and now Obama is up 5
but, signs point to trouble for Obama?
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:56 PM
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16. You're talking about different polls. Obama's lead in this Time magazine poll is the same as last
month's.

The headline about signs pointing to trouble for Obama refer to him losing ground to McCain on the specific issues like the economy and the Iraq war and the war on terror (as opposed to what they call the "atmospheric issues" of likeability, being a force for change, and understanding voters' concerns, where he has a huge lead over McCain).
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:51 PM
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15. Will you give it up?
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 02:52 PM by Drunken Irishman
Obama is doing FAR better than Kerry did in 2004 among women voters. Kerry only managed to win the female vote 51-48.

If Obama wins the female vote by 10-points, he'll win this election by 6+ points.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:13 PM
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17. IF. Yesterday's Zogby poll showed Obama leading by only 5 points among women, and getting
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 03:14 PM by highplainsdem
only 74% of the Democratic vote, and today's PPP Florida poll showed Obama losing older white female Democratic voters to McCain.

http://www.zogby.com/templates/printnews.cfm?id=1535

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2008/08/public-policy-p.html

Do you think those should be ignored?

That PPP poll shows McCain leading by 11 points among women, and trailing Obama by 5 points with men.

The PPP poll had found Obama getting the support of 76% of Florida Democrats, while McCain gets the support of 84% of Republicans. Again, Zogby's newest national poll found Obama getting the support of only 74% of Democrats.

I don't know how you can read these polls except as showing that Obama will need all the help Clinton can give him, via a unity ticket.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 03:15 PM
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18. Yes.
Because I think Zogby's poll is bunk, since it doesn't fit with the other national polls released more recently.

Face it, Obama is going to win this thing without Clinton. I understand you don't want that to happen, but it's going to happen. :)
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:45 PM
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11. I bet the media ignores it as they did the AP poll yesterday. nt
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:47 PM
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12. I`m afraid I have to agree with you.Sad but true.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:47 PM
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13. Good numbers.
I expect another bounce as Obama continues to be more aggressive and McCain's negativity backfires on him.
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