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AsherHeimermann Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 11:48 AM
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Senator McCain Flip Flops on 61 Issues
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 11:55 AM by AsherHeimermann
1. McCain thought Bush's warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

2. McCain insisted that everyone, even "terrible killers," "the worst kind of scum of humanity," and detainees at Guantanamo Bay, "deserve to have some adjudication of their cases," even if that means "releasing some of them." McCain now believes the opposite.

3. He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it "one of the worst decisions in the history of this country."

4. In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.

5. McCain was for closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay before he was against it.

6. When Barack Obama talked about going after terrorists in Pakistani mountains with predators, McCain criticized him for it. He's since come to the opposite conclusion.

Foreign Policy

7. McCain was for kicking Russia out of the G8 before he was against it.

8. McCain supported moving "towards normalization of relations" with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

9. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.

10. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.

11. McCain is both for and against a "rogue state rollback" as a focus of his foreign policy vision.

12. McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty's behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.

13. McCain was against divestment from South Africa before he was for it.

Military Policy

14. McCain recently claimed that he was the "greatest critic" of Rumsfeld's failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as "a mission accomplished." In March 2004, he said, "I'm confident we're on the right course." In December 2005, he said, "Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course."

15. McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions, concluding, on multiple occasions, that a Korea-like presence is both a good and a bad idea.

16. McCain said before the war in Iraq, "We will win this conflict. We will win it easily." Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was "probably going to be long and hard and tough."

17. McCain has repeatedly said it's a dangerous mistake to tell the "enemy" when U.S. troops would be out of Iraq. In May, McCain announced that most American troops would be home from Iraq by 2013.

18. McCain was against expanding the GI Bill before he was for it.

Domestic Policy

19. McCain defended "privatizing" Social Security. Now he says he's against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)

20. McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn't.

21. McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.

22. He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party's policy making. Now he believes the opposite.

23. In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won't commit to supporting a regulation bill he's co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris' former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.

24. McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.

25. McCain's first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn't be "rewarded" for acting "irresponsibly." His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.

26. McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn't be allowed.

27. McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.

28. McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he's pro-ethanol.

29. McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

30. In 2005, McCain endorsed intelligent design creationism, a year later he said the opposite, and a few months after that, he was both for and against creationism at the same time.

Economic Policy

31. McCain was against Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy before he was for them.

32. John McCain initially argued that economics is not an area of expertise for him, saying, "I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues; I still need to be educated," and "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should." He now falsely denies ever having made these remarks and insists that he has a "very strong" understanding of economics.

33. McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal. And soon after that, McCain abandoned his second position and went back to his first.

34. McCain said in 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were "too tilted to the wealthy." By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and falsely argued that he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.

35. McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.

36. McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a "'read my lips' candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?" referring to George H.W. Bush's 1988 pledge. "No new taxes," McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, "I'm not making a 'read my lips' statement, in that I will not raise taxes."

37. McCain has changed his entire economic worldview on multiple occasions.

38. McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off economically than they were before Bush took office.

Energy Policy

39. McCain supported the moratorium on coastal drilling ; now he's against it.

40. McCain recently announced his strong opposition to a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.

41. McCain endorsed a cap-and-trade policy with a mandatory emissions cap. In mid-June, McCain announced he wants the caps to voluntary.

42. McCain explained his belief that a temporary suspension of the federal gas tax would provide an immediate economic stimulus. Shortly thereafter, he argued the exact opposite.

43. McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn't.

Immigration Policy

44. McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants' kids who graduate from high school. Now he's against it.

45. On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own bill.

46. In April, McCain promised voters that he would secure the borders "before proceeding to other reform measures." Two months later, he abandoned his public pledge, pretended that he'd never made the promise in the first place, and vowed that a comprehensive immigration reform policy has always been, and would always be, his "top priority."

Judicial Policy and the Rule of Law

47. McCain said he would "not impose a litmus test on any nominee." He used to promise the opposite.

48. McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration's warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.

49. McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.

Campaign, Ethics, and Lobbying Reform

50. McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn't.

51. In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving "feedback" on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.

52. McCain supported a campaign-finance bill, which bore his name, on strengthening the public-financing system. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.

Politics and Associations

53. McCain wanted political support from radical televangelist John Hagee. Now he doesn't. (He also believes his endorsement from Hagee was both a good and bad idea.)

54. McCain wanted political support from radical televangelist Rod Parsley. Now he doesn't.

55. McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry's Democratic ticket in 2004.

56. McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.

57. McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as "an agent of intolerance" in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans "deserved" the 9/11 attacks.

58. In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending "dirty money" to help finance Bush's presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

59. McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

60. McCain decided in 2000 that he didn't want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he "would taint the image of the 'Straight Talk Express.'" Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.

61. McCain believed powerful right-wing activist/lobbyist Grover Norquist was "corrupt, a shill for dictators, and (with just a dose of sarcasm) Jack Abramoff's gay lover." McCain now considers Norquist a key political ally.

Asher Heimermann is a teenager from Sheboygan, Wisconsin. You can learn more information about Heimermann by visiting his official website at www.AsherHeimermann.com.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 11:52 AM
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1. Great job! (nt)
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 11:59 AM
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2. Excellent list
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 12:02 PM
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3. Great work - Now get this to Keith Olberman, STAT!
anybody who can wade through the bullshit required to get this list together has the chops to deliver it to KO, IMNSHO....

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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 12:24 PM
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4. K&R! nt
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keithjx Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 12:24 PM
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5. This is a great summary.
I really appreciate the work that it took to put it together. What would make it more valuable (for circulation) would be cites to sources.
Thanks, AH.
:thumbsup:
KJ
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AsherHeimermann Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 12:59 PM
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7. More Can Be Found...
More can be found on my official website at www.AsherHeimermann.com if you want to read them...
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keithjx Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:22 PM
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15. Nice!
Thanks again.
KJ
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 12:49 PM
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6. That's a lot of flippin' and floppin'
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:02 PM
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8. The only thing I've seen flip-flop that much was a fish out of water.
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:03 PM
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9. I've seen that list nearly verbatim from this Op-Ed writer, Steve Benet:
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 01:04 PM by PelosiFan
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/op-ed-flip-flops-uncovered

from here: http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops

Pretty much the same list, except yours has a few less. Did you mean to attribute your OP to someone else?

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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:11 PM
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10. he only thing this is needing
is some sourcing. Add that and you've got a helluva email to mass mail.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:12 PM
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11. Nice website Asher
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 01:13 PM by Lochloosa
:toast: http://www.asherheimermann.com/
whoops...would that be giving a beer to a minor:evilgrin:
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:14 PM
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12. This is great, but
you should be able to link every assertion to a publicly recorded statement, to make it credible. You probably already have this information, so you just need to plug in the sources.
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:17 PM
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13. The original author of the list does. Here:
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AsherHeimermann Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:30 PM
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17. Thank You So Very Much!
Thank you so much for sharing that link! I was unable to find anything because another support of Senator Obama had forward that to me without it.
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:33 PM
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18. Word of advice. Next time say that you received it from someone else and don't know the source.
Otherwise, it makes it seem as if you did all that work and research. And that is a lot of work and research that Steve Benen did.

Also, you can just try googling a bit. I knew I had seen this list somewhere, so I googled and found the site immediately.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:21 PM
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14. A damning list
On cnn this morning a guy from politico said that McCain had only two near flip-flops. I agree with the poster above me who suggests that you site the individual charges. Then send a copy to politico, cnn, and msnbc so that they can nail cnn if they don't correct the record.

Good on ya, Asher. :toast:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:28 PM
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16. Quote your sources, Ash.
We don't appreciate plagiarism here.

I think it's wonderful that you're so involved in the direction of our country, but you still need to give credit where it's due.



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AsherHeimermann Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:35 PM
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19. Plagiarism
Was something that I did not have planned. I was not given a source but the information was something that I wanted to share with everyone.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:13 PM
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21. It's good information!
I appreciate your willingness to be involved. I really do! :hi:

I'm just saying that you should quote your sources when you post information that you didn't personally compile.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 01:57 PM
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20. When you plagiarize, everyone loses.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 02:15 PM
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22. With more acrobatics to come, I'm sure (my friends).
:puke:
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