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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:21 PM
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Matt Stoller and "Open Left"...Wes Clark for VEEP..PETITION to OBAMA!
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7255

A few weeks ago, before the Villagers threw their little hissy fit, Aaron Ament and I were going to launch a short campaign to promote Wes Clark for VP. After the events of the last few days, we think it's more important than ever to do so. And so, here you are.

http://www.obamaclark.com/

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The basic idea behind Clark for VP is that we want to make a little noise about the position of Vice President and ask that Obama consider a real progressive in that slot who can help fix some of the most damaging aspects of the Bush Presidency.

The political argument for Clark is simple. He is a great surrogate for Democrats, with experience in 2004 and 2006 on the campaign trail, and a genuine national base of supporters. In terms of governance, which is what Obama says is the most important criteria for his VP pick, Clark can help Obama deal with the mess that the Bush administration left behind. As commander of NATO in the late 1990s, Clark won a war, so he is more likely than any progressive out there to be able to wrangle solutions from a military establishment that has been decimated by Bush's cronyism and incompetence. That is really important moving forward, since rebuilding our national security posture is a critical challenge over the next eight years

Clark also emphasizes Obama's strengths.
He is popular among grassroots progressives, he was against the war in Iraq from the get-go, and he is an outsider to politics. He also demonstrated terrific political judgment in being willing to work against Lieberman in 2006, unlike, say, Tim Kaine, who endorsed Lieberman for President in 2004. This kind of savvy political judgment can help Obama avoid landmines down the road, and the Bush administration has left very little but landmines for the next President.

Before the idiot DC villagers threw a hissy fit about Clark, he was on the short list for VP. Is it realistic to see him back on that list? Well really, it's up to Obama. Choosing Clark would be a clear demonstration that Obama intends to significantly shift the political debate in the country and that he refuses to allow old school bitchy sniping from DC insiders to dominate our national political discourse. What Clark said - that McCain has no experience in national security decision-making - is absolutely true, and it's a point that needs emphasis repeatedly and effectively by someone who can deliver it.

Clark has a 34 year service record, has won a war, commanded troops all over the world, and nearly died of his injuries in Vietnam. He has run for President and been a surrogate for hundreds of Democrats all over the country, including Ned Lamont. He was against the war in Iraq, and knows the military bureaucracy inside and out. This is someone who would make an insanely good Vice President, and someone who has deep connections to the newly formed progressive communities that emerged from 2002-2006

Senator Obama would do well to choose Clark as his running mate.

http://www.obamaclark.com/
Matt Stoller :: Wes Clark for VP
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:23 PM
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1. Kickin' Like A Sonofabitch!
:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:24 PM
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2. Done! n/t
n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:24 PM
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3. Signed, KNR!
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:29 PM
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4. Done.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:32 PM
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5. Signed
I'll lose what little enthusiasm remains if the VP selection turns out to be EITHER Bayh or Kaine.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:34 PM
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6. he's the one
ha ha...see what I did there?

I love Wes Clark! YES! Wes is brilliant, progressive, diplomatic, liberal, strong, fantastic strategist, cool head, etc etc etc

OBAMA/CLARK 08

WH here we come!!!
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:37 PM
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7. Signed and sent.
He would be a brilliant choice. K&R! :kick:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:48 PM
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8. Kicking Again For Exposure (nt)
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:53 PM
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9. Kick & Rec
He would nullify John "I Know How To Win Wars" McLame
on national security.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:57 PM
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10. The trouble is that Obama is not going to pick a candidate that somebody tells him is right,
he is going to choose the person he believes is right for him. Nobody is going to twist his arm or talk him into somebody. Does anyone believe that there is something about Clark that Obama is unaware of, or any of the others as well?
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:49 PM
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13. Exactly. I think everyone is wasting their time bothering with this site
or signing a petition. The VP is not elected by popular vote. They are selected by the nominee who weighs many factors, with petitions & websites on line NOT being one of them. I do not know why Stoller is doing this. Raising Kaine did this to promote Webb, who then took himself out of the running. I just don't think it will help at all.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:35 PM
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11. Can't hurt to try.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:38 PM
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12. So that people can remind him he said Obama was not ready to be CiC?
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 09:39 PM by Mass
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4959434

And I understand that I will not be popular with that. I like Clark, but this makes it risky.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:03 PM
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15. Wouldn't that make for a great tv commercial. n/t
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:03 PM
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16. Ah, but he never said that
Clark was very careful in his use of words. Go back and check the transcripts. There is no juicy sound bite from Clark that McCain can use. Clark talked about the ways in which Hillary's experience prepared her to be CIC without saying that Obama wasn't. Some headline writers tried to put words in Clark's mouth to that effect but it wasn't a quote. It was fabricated and unsupported by the actual tapes and transcripts.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:56 PM
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14. .
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:30 PM
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17. Typical example of not being able to let go
Stoller conceded he got into the netroots based on Wes Clark's campaign in '04. So now he's still championing him. Blah.

I'm glad Stoller left MyDD. He was moody and didn't like it when posters pointed out his mistakes and biases, which were plentiful.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 11:32 PM
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18. Wes Clark was a republican who changed parties because he opposed the war in Iraq.
How then can he be considered a progressive?
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:06 AM
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19. OMG....
This crap still????WES CLARK WAS NEVER A REPUBLICAN...NEVER...wb
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:10 AM
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20. Thank you for writing this:
After all that has gone down, after all that Clark has done for the party, I have to come and this read crap like this.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:31 AM
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21. Absolutely mind boggling...
I couldn't not respond...sheesh!!wb
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 11:46 AM
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22. Kicking for The General!
:kick:



Laura
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