I accidentally turned CNN on last night

[Warren Stupidity]

and watched three liars agree with each other that Obama 'stepped in it' when the McCaint campaign announced that Obama was 'playing the race card' because the McCaint campaign ran (well they didn't actually run it, but that is another related problem) an ad combining images of Obama and slutty white girl celebrities Spears and Hilton. None of the liars even bothered actually making a rational argument. They started with two staff liars, and then called in a third liar from Wapo to repeat their lies for confirmation.

I changed the channel. They aren't even trying to avoid the appearance of partisanship. ESPN Sports Center was more enlightening.

I absent-mindedly clicked over to NPR on the way to work last week and listened as they noted that both Obama and McCaint made appearances at (I think) the Urban League. They then proceeded to play a sound bite from McCaint's speech that made direct (and false) charges against Obama. They did not play or report on Obama's speech nor did they comment on the McCain charges. It was a free McCain campaign ad from NPR. I clicked over to something mindless after realizing I was screaming at my radio and diving erratically.

It is August. Time to re-up your Obama contribution. We are going to have to buy an enormous amount of ad time on tv to counter the bullshit the McCaint campaign is running free of charge on every media outlet.

[flpoljunkie]

1. McNasty is running the 'celebrity' ad. It's set for rotation in 11 swing states.

[NYC_SKP]

3. Which states, do you know?

Link?

I'd like to send a shoutout to folks in those state where its running and where I know people.

thx.

[flpoljunkie]

16. Link from CNN listing the states...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/30/mccain.ad/index.html

The campaign says the ad will run in 11 battleground states: Colorado, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.

(Could they be lying? Of course.)

[NYC_SKP]

21. Excellent, thanks!

Obama's trending up against McCain in all those state, I believe.

I posted graphs for all those states except IA and NV and NH, I think.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6573215

[flpoljunkie]

23. Here's more from Talkingpointsmemo. McNasty devoting 1/3 of total ad spending on Britney spot

McCain Campaign Devoting One Third Of Its Total Ad Spending To Britney-Obama Spot

By Greg Sargent - August 1, 2008, 3:41PM

A couple days ago we promised to try to nail down precisely what the McCain campaign is spending on its Britney-Obama ad.

Well, it looks like McCain is sinking a significant proportion of his current ad spending into it.

Evan Tracey, who tracks national ad buys for the Campaign Media Analysis Group, tells us that McCain is spending over $140,000 a day to run the spot. That accounts for roughly a third of his current overall TV ad spending, Tracey says.

The ad is running in McCain's 11 target states -- a list of them is after the jump -- so it's not a huge buy when spread across all those states, though it's certainly not insignificant.

But the fact that a fairly large chunk of his ad spending is going to a spot comparing Obama with Britney Spears and Paris Hilton is kind of surprising and seems awfully suggestive. Either the McCain camp thinks it's working, or this is the best they can do on messaging right now.

McCain's 11 target states are Colorado, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/mccain_campaign_devoting_13_of.php

[NYC_SKP]

24. Wow....is the campaing smoking crack?

Or do you think this is a wise spending move on their part?

:shrug:

[flpoljunkie]

26. Well, negative campaigning does work, and the tracking polls show Obama's bounce now gone.

I could not believe that half of Democrats in the Rasmussen poll thought Obama was playing the race card by his 'dollar bill' comment.

Obama needs to talk about the 'elephant in the room.' Thank goodness for David Gergen today calling out McCain campaign, saying they know exactly what they are doing with these ads--appealing to bigots.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6580282&mesg_id=6580282

[NYC_SKP]

27. The bounce would have fallen anyway, I think.

While the media, and many of us, reflexively tie national polls to particular ads or events, this is rarely a valid thing to do given the number or other influencing factors and the small and disparate samples used in these polls.

Media market polls, maybe.

By the way, I linked your tpm link in a new post a moment ago.

Gave you credit, if that's OK.

:patriot:

[flpoljunkie]

28. Absolutely, no problem.

[Warren Stupidity]

4. "Set for" would be in the future.

meanwhile, if I remember correctly, this ad has currently run twice for pay, and an uncounted large number of times gratis from CorpMedia which was my point.

We have seen this all before, ever since the Dukakis campaign, which was when I first became aware that any notion of objectivity and fairness in broadcast journalism had been discarded. The only question is can the Obama campaign overcome, with our money and time and their skill, the enormous advantage the McCaint campaign has from our corrupted broken system of 'representative' government? The answer is up to us.

[NYC_SKP]

13. Among cable news watchers,

I believe that such people have made up their minds or are savvy enough to not be swayed by the bull.

Most people, if they watch, are flipping or looking for opinions that reinforce their views, they aren't going to be swayed.

If they're really looking for information, they're probably smart enough to see through the bullshit.

So, it's the actual ads, the ads with flat out lies like "Obama wants to import Foreign Oil" that air in between episodes of Mama's Family (which I love) that concern me and I hope that good democrats in those states are on to them.

The MSM isn't going to defend the truth.

:hi:

[NYC_SKP]

2. My, how they all love to jump on the racebaiting bandwagon.

I'm particularly offended by the many AA "jounalists" who jump right in, it seems to be a majority of them.

John racebaited, Obama was busy being professional and constructive, the moment he responds in a fair manner suddenly HE is playing the race card.

I call bullshit on every fucking major media outlet, NPR included.

[Cha]

5. You guys are strong..I couldn't take the corporatemediawhores

after November 2002. I get all weirded out just reading about your experiences.

Obama's birthday is tomorrow and I'm going to donate $47.00 'cause that's what he's turning:party:

And some still think you get a fair shake on NPR.

[DemocracyInaction]

6. Ummm-what's he doing with the money already sent??

Sorry - I've been burned before by our Dem candidates and all their great "ideas" that never hit the airways. Why the hell isn't he answering with scathing ads (complete with pictures) cementing McCain to Bush. He can't win the "defense" bullshit; so if his campaign had any brains it would start out a new week where it's all about McCain being the love child of Bush! But watch, as usual with our Dem campaigns, they will be discussing this race issue and McCains filth ads while not one sound bite from an Obama rally is even mentioned UNLESS he tries to again and again defend himself and thus keeping it all alive. Ten to one in a few weeks we are going to start hearing the "shake up in the Obama campaign" news which is code for "our boat is going down".

[Warren Stupidity]

9. You were burned before?

Like with the Kerry campaign that had no funds at all to respond to the switfboat and flip-flopper attacks during the summer of 04?

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/

if you want them to fight back - donate.

"they will be discussing this race issue and McCains filth ads while not one sound bite from an Obama rally is even mentioned"

Well that is the problem isn't it? "They" are for all practical purposes paid operatives for the corporate party. The only way we can counter 'them' is to BUY ad time and that takes A LOT OF MONEY. So stop whining and donate.

[NYC_SKP]

12. Some people seem to think that their contributions are spent...

...on exactly what they propose is needing to be done.

Or so it seems.

I wish people (not you) would calm down, this is under control.

:patriot:

[depakid]

18. Why should anyone donate if they don't think their money will be used effectively?

Everyone loved it when Ms. Hilton jumped all over McCain- how is this any different?

[NYC_SKP]

20. If they want their funds to be spent in a particular way, then...

...they need to spend it in different ways.

Until the campaign provides the option to donate to specific actions, contributors donate with the understanding that the campaign will spend it where they think they need to.

Isn't that kind of obvious.

If Hilton wants to, she could fund her own ad.

If you had the money you could do the same, or with less money you could probably find a more directed way to fund, maybe locally.

BTW, I think it would be good if we could specify, print ad/ radio ad/ cable ad/ literature/ support logistics/ etc. when we contribute.

Would that help, or would you to have a greater voice in the campaign and how they strategize?

:shrug:

[NYC_SKP]

11. I'll take that bet.

The election is a long way off....strong ads are being held until later. It's the smart thing to do with short-attention-span voters.

:patriot:

[depakid]

17. Keeping the powder dry, apparently

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6578789&mesg_id=6578789

Laying off McCain while he's being defined and ridiculed incessantly.

[Life Long Dem]

7. I'll surf and land on CNN sometimes

Yeah, they are not giving Obama an inch. If it's a wrong, it's Obama's wrong. If it's a McSame wrong, they like to connect Obama to so it appears both have done a wrong.

And what is it with the sound whenever we hear a speech of Obama in an arena or auditorium? It's like he is always talking in a echo chamber.

[AndyTiedye]

15. That is How They Neutralize Obama's Great Speaking Ability

They either don't play any of his speech at all, or the f*** up the sound.

[dragonball2008]

8. why

cnn

[Warren Stupidity]

10. I said it was an accident.

Consider it rubber-necking. It was actually fascinating for about 45 seconds.

[AndyTiedye]

14. We Are Going to Need BILLIONS to Counteract All the FREE Advertising They Give McAin't

Advertising time costs us up to a million dollars a minute. McCain gets most of his for FREE.

I already gave the legal maximum.

[TheDonkey]

19. the MSM is a complete disaster. They have lost all credibility

[GoesTo11]

22. Stop expecting TV to have news

It's all against Obama by direct order from the bosses.

I figure there's just no way to win the news game - if Obama put out ads with a lot of teeth in them now, he would be shafted by the pundits again. If you take as fact that the media is just a part of the McCain campaign, that changes strategy a bit. First, it means this is going to be one tough election, no matter how good we feel about it. Second, it means Obama has to fight very effectively around the media. Third, it means he has to just diminish the importance of the media altogether. In practice: raise a lot of money, spend a lot of it on a great ground game and internet game, don't give the media any more fuel to put on the fire. Now I get it. It's a bit depressing to realize that this is going to be going to the wire no matter how much of a fool McCain makes of himself and no matter what Obama does. But once we accept that, I'd much rather he fight the battle that exists, not the one he wishes existed. This is like Luke Skywalker against the galactic empire. One good shot at the death star. Can't waste it.

[butterfly77]

25. Notice how on all of them cnn,msnbc or fox...

when they want to make a point to discredit Obama they play a certain part of the clip then cut it off as he is getting to the main point of his argument. Once they get to McCain they read his talking point as though he were correct in some way they don't want the people to see McCain as he is saying it so they read it and portray the clip in the manner they want it to be perceived..

[old mark]

29. CNN has been biased to the point where I can't watch it.

Warren S, my wife and I just donated to O's campaign this morning, and I was surprised by the low amount of money donated here.

Takes money to beat McCain and the Republican controlled media, and we must win this one.


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