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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:15 AM
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Maybe, just maybe, Andrea Mitchell is beginning to see the light.
I think she was truly incensed about the Landstuhl/wounded veterans lie and kept pointing out, with growing impatience, that she was there in Berlin and the story that Obama didn't visit the vets w/o press just wasn't true. I think she was genuinely outraged by it and said it every time it came up.

Then comes the Rick Davis interview where she skewered him on the "celebrity" ad. She hammered at him.

Then this morning on Morning Joe she talked about that interview and essentially pointed out how ridiculous the "celebrity" charge against Obama was. Joe was pissed as hell. She was stepping all over his morning flatulance.

I think Andrea is getting increasingly alarmed at the way this campaign is going. Not that she's a big Democrat all of a sudden. I think it's more about her professional pride. Her reputation is getting pretty badly damaged and I'm glad. Maybe she'll wake up...
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:19 AM
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1. you mean, Mrs. Greenspan is seeing the light???
her head is so far up this MSM/Govt machine that she can hasnt seen daylight in decades.

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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:21 AM
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2. I agree. I think her political views are Republican, but that won't stop her from calling bullshit.
Ever since she's gotten back from Obama's trip, she hasn't held back on shooting down these lies about Obama.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:21 AM
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3. I don't want to let down my guard when it comes to Andrea.
But I'll take the smatterings of fairness that I've seen from her as of late, but I'm not really expecting it to keep up. Joe seemed angry when Andrea defended the Obama campaign though, bc she said that him bringing up the "my face doesn't look like the others on the dollar bill" (still haven't seen ANY mention of the McCain dollar bill web ad with Obama's face on the dollar bills) was self-deprecating, and Joe said "How the HELLL is that self-deprecating???" And Andrea said that McCain campaign is the one who is injecting race into the campaign. She also said of the Rick Davis interview "I've known him for many years, and I've never had a problem with him...I didn't THINK that he had one with me..." I think she was offended though by the way Rick Davis talked to her . Rick Davis really seems like a sociopath to me.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:27 AM
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5. At this point, I don't think there's a McCain supporter who ISN'T a sociopath.
I've decided that they all have varying degrees of mental illness, incapacity, raging anger, you name it. I don't think Andrea is like that. I conjecture that she sees how the repubs are descending into deeper and deeper irrationality and she doesn't want to go down with them. It's more about her own self preservation, but it serves us well.

Anyone who can get under Joey's skin on his own show is OK by me...
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:26 AM
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4. Greenspan must have blurted something out during sex
that caught her attention. Sorry for the ick moment.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:27 AM
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6. For now..
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:29 AM
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7. She's Capt Renault
and the wind is changing.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:30 AM
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8. I think the blatant lying by the McCain Campaign...
...really bothered her. Maybe she thought she could trust them and now she knows she can't.

Anyway - great development - hope the rest of the media catches on.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:40 AM
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9. He Turned On His Base
Nothing worse than spurned lovers. This week we saw Joke Line...err Joe Klein end his mancrush on Gramps and several others in the beltway bubbleworld finally realize Gramps was not just using them, but playing them like fools. Remember, Mrs. Greenspan was in a tizzy in Baghdad about her access and then seemed to "simmah down"...it seemed to co-incide with the GOOP charges that Obama was getting too much coverage. I really think this got under a lot of skins.

They see him trying to use them to get his message out and there's only so far and so much one can do that. You don't shove reporters to the back of the plane or blame them for your problems and expect these big egos to keep munching the donuts.

Let's see how much longer Gramps can keep this scortched earth campaign up. The law of diminishing returns has already set in on his whining and "gaffes". The biggest fear they have is that this campaign turns to real issues.

Some may say...when you lost Mrs. Greenspan, you lost the country. But sadly, there are still too many stenographers and hacks around to ever let down our guard. The good thing this year is that we have a stronger voice in this election...and it's getting heard.
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catbyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 09:01 AM
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11. I see it with others too
like on MSNBC the other day when that guy from Time or Newsweek who looks like George Costanza (Jonathan Alter?) said that the McCain claims about Obama & the wounded troops was "damned pathetic", and he sounded really angry.

(Sorry about not knowing exactly who in the heck I'm talking about--I'm suffering from CRS today!)

Diane

"Tales of the hunt will glorify the hunter until lions have their own historians."--African proverb
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:57 AM
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10. don't ever trust them
they are the media. they are not our friends.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:00 AM
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15. Well, as I said, it's really not a question of her being our "friend." I think it has more
to do with Andrea's sense of herself that is at the center of her change. Idon't see her as much as a plotting enemy, but rather a self conscious media person who thinks her professional "integrity" is at stake. I don't think she gives a rat's ass about us one way or the other.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 09:32 AM
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12. I noticed that too
I was quite surprises by it. I saw her a couple of days ago, she was on with GOPers and it really caught me the way she was outright defensive about Obama. It was truly weird to hear all of the criticism of the McCain camp coming from her.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 09:39 AM
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Don't hold your breath
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 09:39 AM
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13. IMO, it is just her turn to play the bad guy. n/t
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 09:57 AM
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14. My theory on why Andrea is being fair now
Edited on Fri Aug-01-08 09:57 AM by Hamlette
1. The media's number one boy (McCain) turned on them not only when he said they were unfair to him but when he said THEY were being used like tools by Obama or Obama planned to use them like tools with the troops in Landstuhl. This was on the heels of the press being excluded from the Iraq/Afghanistan portion of the trip so they knew Obama was excluding them then they are made the chumps in the Landstuhl part of the story.

2. Greenspan's best friend (or one of his best friends) is Paul O'Neill who appeared at the economic summit thingie with Obama this week. (last week? Time blurs keeping up with these recent events). So, maybe Paul decides Obama is the one, the person in this race who is serious about making the changes needed to fix the economy and as an economist, that's a pretty high priority for him. Remember, he trashed Bush (mostly Cheney) in his book because they are ideologues. I'm thinking Paul sees McCain in the same mold OR so ignorant of and uninterested in the economy McCain will let some ideologue like cheney run the economy (in to the ground) during a McCain presidency.

So Paul and Alan talk and conclude Obama's the one. Then Alan and Andrea talk and decide Obama might be right for the country.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:32 AM
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16. I like your theory. It makes sense. Andrea and Alan don't want to be seen
as chumps, to use your word. They have their "reputations" to keep up. And their egos are so big they think they are "game changers." So Andrea, being so visible in the media all the time, is obviously the one to put their concerns forward. Of course, she had ample opportunity in her covering the trip and in the interview with Rick Davis.

Human vanity figures large in LOTS of stuff with regard to the media, IMO.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:37 AM
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17. I noticed a change in her demeanor after Obama's world tour
it seems to me that she was genuinely impressedd with the candidate's performance and the reception he got from world leaders and the people. I think Obama may have answered some of her own personal skeprticism about his capability and/or potential.



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