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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 01:48 AM
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I want to know why John McCain needs to minimize Britney Spears
She looks to me like someone with real problems. Why must John McCain diss her? I'm beginning to become a bit resentful of what I see as a lack of respect for women.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 01:59 AM
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1. He called his wife a c**t in public. Why would he have any regard for any other woman?
It's evident that women are shit to him. Anti-choice and anti-equal pay. Campaigned for a guy in 2004 who trashed his wife and daughter in 2000. Left his crippled first wife for a wealthy young heiress.

Why any woman would cast her vote for this hateful asshole is a mystery to me.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:04 AM
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2. I know...that is what connected it all for me.
I was just reading the Hilton Daddy Donor thread and the Britney sues thread and I'm tickled pink at the flack McCain is getting.

I hope he has to make a public apology. That would be simply precious.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:08 AM
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3. Britney is suing him? Awesome!
I hope she does. Who the FUCK does he think he is to use her likeness without her consent?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:09 AM
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4. No, she's not
there are no news reports of such a thing. And what would she sue him for?
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:26 AM
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6. I'm not clear on this. It's one thing to use a celebrity image in art.
But what about for a political ad? Might there be some "in kind contribution" issues? Both Hilton and Spears are in a position where they could command large fees for appearing on behalf of a politician. Obviously, in a consensual situation, famous people do these things free of charge for candidates they support. But what if a candidate used the likeness of a famous person, without permission, to advance their campaign, or to attack an opponent, would there be a legal issue? I honestly don't know. I do know that musicians have issued cease and desist letters to candidates to stop them from using their songs but I don't know if the same thing applies to pictures of famous people.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:53 AM
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11. See my post below. Of course, she could sue him.
Winning? Now that's a whole different matter.

If she sues him, her goal won't be to win, it will be to slap him around a little in media, just like he slapped her around. She will never win any money from him for it, but she can definitely SUE him. Any time someone tells you "they can't sue for that," tell them "anyone can sue anyone for anything." In this matter, not only can she sue him, but she can have facts issues that prevent a judge from dismissing her case. It is a fact issue as to whether he slandered her, and a fact issue as to whether she was damaged by him. That means no dismissal before trial, unless she wants it dismissed before trial.

Some people confuse "filing and pursuing a lawsuit" with "winning a lawsuit." The goal, especially with celebrities, is not a monetary recovery, but a basis to launch a public relations counter offensive.

I hope she does it.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:02 AM
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14. Absolutely.
All it takes is the right jury and the right judge, when it comes to groundbreaking cases like these. I've never seen a lawsuit where a famous plaintiff made a complaint about having her likeness used in the ad of a Presidential candidate.

Britney, Paris, I implore you: SUE!!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:03 AM
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15. Absolutely.
All it takes is the right jury and the right judge, when it comes to groundbreaking cases like these. I've never seen a lawsuit where a famous plaintiff made a complaint about having her likeness used in the ad of a Presidential candidate.

Britney, Paris, I implore you: SUE!!
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raebrek Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 06:12 AM
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21. Why would Miss Spears sue McCain?
For calling her a celebrity/star and giving her free press?

Raebrek!!!
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:21 AM
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5. Here's the thread I was reading earlier.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:47 AM
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9. I don't know if she will, but she certainly could.
All it takes to file a lawsuit is money, and she has plenty of that. She could call her attorneys, say "sue the bastard, and let me know what you're suing him for, but sue him."

They'll come up with appropriate causes of actions, ones that cannot be the subject of a successful motion for summary judgment or for dismissal. Maybe business slander. That's always a good one, with venue often available where the plaintiff resides. Maybe unauthorized use of proprietary materials.

She doesn't have to worry about the specific causes of action, and neither do we, because she has a butt load of money, and if you give a decent law firm a hundred grand to get started and tell them to sue McCain for anything they can dream up, they'll do it.

If she sues him, then she gets to launch press releases of her choosing through motions and pleadings filed by her attorneys. It could be fun. Maybe she'll start taking public shots at Cindy McCain for her lying, thieving, drugged out ways. I can just see Britney saying "well, his wife is richer than I have ever been, but I never stole pills from a charity to get high." That would make for good TV infotainment.

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:51 AM
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10. OMG!! Britney, PLEASE do it!
I will totally forgive you for supporting Bush in 2004 if you take McCain to the woodshed this year. :thumbsup:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:00 AM
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13. This would take advantage of the shallow, salacious nature of MSM.
The MSM would have to cover this, and would do so obsessively. A statement to MSM like this would be great, and effective if she wants to slap around the little surrender monkey:

Through her attorneys, Miss Spears said "I never got in bed with bankers that cost the taxpayers a billion dollars, like Senator McCain did, and I never stole drugs from a charity to feed my habit, like Mrs. McCain did. Where does he get off criticizing me?!"
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:07 AM
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17. Oh god if she said that I'd buy every album she ever made!
Is there any way we could get to her with some subversive shit like that?
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:05 AM
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16. Britney can't sue him...her father is in charge of her affairs for the time being
I find it particularly distasteful that the McCain campaign chose to use someone who still considered incompetent to manage their affairs for their nasty ad.

I hope Daddy Spears sues the pants off the McCain campaign.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:45 AM
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19. That's an impediment, but I can see the father considering it as necessary.
Edited on Fri Aug-01-08 03:50 AM by TexasObserver
I don't follow the Britney news, and didn't know her father had been appointed her conservator.

She'd need his approval to launch against McCain, but since he's interested in her rehabilitation, he might go for it. She's clean and sober now, apparently, and doing some positive things. This could be a vehicle to tout her improvements and successes. She is in the midst of a personal makeover, and her dad is apparently guiding that process.

McCain is smearing Britney's brand name, and if old dad is tending his daughter's interest, he may want to see her vindicated because of her current behaviors. If you're trying to help your 26 year old daughter find her way back to sanity, seeing her attacked in media by a politician can't be something you want to see.

If they sue McCain, it's mainly to put a stop to anyone, including McCain, from using Britney as a punching bag or punchline in their commercials. I doubt her dad likes seeing his daughter treated that way, and doesn't like having his grandkids see their mommy made a punchline again, not while she's trying to do right. It's hard enough to get someone turned around when they've fallen off the edge of the world drinking and drugging.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:37 AM
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7. Britney is still not in charge of her life because of her mental problems
She lost custody and visitation with her kids. She landed in the psych ward twice on an involuntary holds. I find it depressing that a presidential candidate would mock her.

Britney is a celebrity, but she also has a body of work. I don't like her music, but she has accomplished something in her life.

Why mock Britney?
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:45 AM
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8. Because John McCain, and the people running his campaign, are callous misogynist assholes?
It's as reasonable a theory as any. :shrug:
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:57 AM
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12. I just think it says something about the McCain campaign that of all the bubble-headed blonds
Edited on Fri Aug-01-08 02:59 AM by ribrepin
they choose the one who is still under her Daddy's conservatorship to use in their ads. What's wrong with Pam Anderson or Heidi Montage?

Her family should sue the pants off them for using Britney in their ads. Britney can't sue, she doesn't have legal rights yet.

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:21 AM
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18. Callous is the right word. Kick a girl when she's down...how disgusting.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 05:04 AM
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20. imo McCain is a misogynist...
And he's also too much of a narcissist to have given an iota of thought to Britney or Paris ~ they are merely things to be used, like his wife.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 06:54 AM
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22. Don't you think it is rather telling that the 2 "celebrities" the McCain camp chose
each have their own set of personal issues. Britney has been hospitalized with psychiatric problems; Paris has served time in jail for DUI. Both have sexual histories of which many people disapprove.

Yeah, I can see why the McCain smear machine would choose THOSE two celebrities, after all Obama has SO MUCH in common with them. :eyes:
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 07:06 AM
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23. I raised this in another thread
I mean, it's easy to mock Britney, but she was basically declared mentally unstable by a court. She was under suicide watch in the hospital six months ago. And the picture that they use of her is like more than seven years old, lol
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 07:08 AM
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24. Or, worse, why did he diss his own wife?!
Edited on Fri Aug-01-08 07:12 AM by HypnoToad
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