MSNBC Heard Us: Where's Dubya's Ribbons???

[KharmaTrain]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5445086/

From Joe Trippi:

There appears to be no official document yet released for the two ribbons worn by George Bush in this picture circulating on the web. They are the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award, and the Small Arms Expert Marksmanship ribbon. Missing is the Texas State Guard Service Medal awarded to just about anyone who just showed up for three years straight.

And the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth are challenging John Kerry’s war record?

What’s interesting to me about both men is that John Kerry said “send me” and then came back from Vietnam and spoke out strongly against the war he had fought in.

Bush on the other hand seems to have supported the war strongly, but never volunteered to go to Southeast Asia to fight.

More on the Swift Boat saga tonight on 'Hardball.'



Congrats to Walt Starr! Let's hope this story gets half the media buzz the slimeboat one did.

Cheers!

[mourningdove92]

1. Oh my, that is DOUBLEPLUS awesome.

:toast:

[blm]

2. Cheers to Walt.

Good show, old chap.

[DoYouEverWonder]

3. Congrats to WaltStarr

Way to go. Yahoo!!!

[grasswire]

10. we're working this as hard as we can

DU-ers are pushing the story everywhere.

Will it make Olbermann's show tonight? Will it?

The next step is to add the info that George's Grandpa lied about his medals in WW1, and his mother wrote a note to the newspaper to get him off the hook:

Editor State Journal:
A cable received from my son, Prescott S. Bush, brings word that he has not been decorated, as published in the papers a month ago. He feels dreadfully troubled that a letter, written in a spirit of fun, should have been misinterpreted. He says he is no hero and asks me to make explanations. I will appreciate your kindness in publishing this letter.... (signed) Flora Sheldon Bush.

[KharmaTrain]

16. You Guys Did A Great Job

Grasswire...this is a beauty to see develop. I passed it on to a bunch of blog and sites and I'm certain others did as well. Let's see how this is explained away or opens up that small hole in the death star and someone just made a direct hit.

This feels exciting and great

Kudos to you all!

[Trajan]

4. Hats off to Waltie ....

Brilliant observation Walt ...

[Placebo]

5. YAY for MSNBC.

and all that nice jazz. :party:

[TNOE]

6. Can't Wait for Hardball Tonight

Thank you Walt Starr!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited to ADD:

Check out VETWIFE's post in GD Forum - her husband and (so far) vets are being damaged with this swift boat mess - flashbacks, etc. This is WAR!!!

[Nightjock]

14. I've been waiting anxiously for Hardball tonight also

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x115451

[TNOE]

21. Thanks for that thread Nightjock

Missed it before - Yes - I CAN'T wait to see Chris - I hope he is as fired up as before and stays that way - Watch his ratings climb!!

Sorry - but I'm full of forgiveness for everything he's done in the past - we need him now and we need him bad - and he's been there. He's on my "must see" list everynight now along with the Daily Show.

[tandot]

7. They'll talk about it on Hardball??? Tonight??? This is great!

I can't miss that. THANKS, DU & Walt :yourock:

[Feanorcurufinwe]

8. Yes! and props to Trippi

BTW thanks for all your suggestions and comments on ideas to blog about! Keep them coming by emailing me a [e-mail]!

Not a bad idea.

[David Zephyr]

9. Walt Starr! Walt Starr! Walt Starr! Walt Starr! Walt Starr! Walt Starr!

And all the people said: Walt Starr! Walt Starr!

Congratulations, brother Starr! :hi:

[Walt Starr]

11. Oh.......my........gosh......

:blush:

[kentuck]

42. Also the guy that invented the word Enronomy....!

For those newbies that didn't know that! :)

[merh]

53. Congratulations Mr. Walt - you are definitely a shining Star in

my book - you make me proud to be a DUer and an American!

:yourock: :thumbsup:

[qanda]

60. Way to go Walt!

:bounce: :thumbsup: :toast: :yourock:

[The Magistrate]

68. Three Cheers For Mr. Starr!

Huzzah, Sir!

You have rendered an excellent service, for which we all are grateful!

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[City Lights]

12. Congrats, Walt.

Outstanding job!

:toast:

And a big :thumbsup: to Al Gore's Internet!

[Tansy_Gold]

13. WAY TO GO, WALT STARR!!

I have been relaying the messages posted on Walt's threads to navy vet hubby, and he has been absolutely livid! I promised him I would tape Olbermann and Daily Show tonight (he works swing shift) so he can see them tomorrow.

THIS IS TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING GOOD!

Walt Starr, :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

[democrat_patriot]

15. Kick.

[seemslikeadream]

17. I just posted this in LBN

:toast:

[WhoDoYouTrust]

18. A bump for you, Walt!

I'm impressed!

[enough]

19. Walt Starr! Yes!

One more time.

[Walt Starr]

20. Are they going to have Hackworth on?

He would definitely know what's up with this!

[TNOE]

22. Walt - Can we please do something for VetWife & Others

Check out her thread in GD. This could be the nail for the coffin. Payback time.

[Walt Starr]

28. do you have a link to the thread?

?

[TNOE]

33. Here Ya Go - Sorry was getting "forum busy"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2254338

We're talking about actual damage done to real human beings. This should be huge!

[juajen]

71. I'm very late with this, but

Hackworth is on Scarborough Country tonight. Congratulations Walt, that was true digging. You should be a reporter!!!

[VolcanoJen]

23. Great job, Walt Starr!!! DU has been instrumental in silencing the smear!

You guys are the best... and the impact of our hard work is being felt.

:bounce: :toast: :bounce:

[Kahuna]

24. Get the hell outa here!!!!!! Three cheers for Walt Starr!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[David Zephyr]

25. We Need to Send Tidal Waves of E-Mails to the Print Media, Too.

One cable network news show is not enough.

[volosong]

70. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT

Best shot of getting in print is to submit to your local and county newspapers. You will have to use a real name and phone number. Rarely, they will call to "verify" you identity (really stupid if you think about it).

[Lex]

26. That's great! Hope the other ones pick up Grandaddy Bush lying about his

.
medals. That would be icing on the cake.

[Malva Zebrina]

27. I am breathless--Walt you are outstanding

intelligent, organized and -- whatever else it took to make this discovery and to let us and others on the web know about this. I nominate you for the DU outstanding service ribbon!

[Carni]

29. COOL!

I have been trying to follow the original thread by Walt Starr all weekend regarding the ribbons/medals.

I was hoping this would pan out but I am shocked and delighted to see that msnbc is already covering this!

This is excellent!

Thanks & Congrats to Walt!

[Sparkle]

30. ahem..Walt Starr?

May I have your autograph?:-)

[vetwife]

35. I am here Walt and this situation is bad !

Look at the Vietnam vets who are flashbacking and having nightmares. they can't escape all of the news but its everywhere.
The VA is overflowing with vets who are questioning their own medals. They are plagued with PTSD and my own Vet has not even been coherent today. Bush and his VA Budget has cut beds back and VA hospitals are closing. The swiftboat liars are turning Vets for Kerry's service into an outrage. There has been 110,00 VN vets die by their own hand since that war ended and O'Neill has said nothing happened but Kerry spoke the truth and many vets who live in this Trauma know it happened. O'Neill is putting us all in danger from that war. PTSD affect the whole family. He and his swiftboat liars and the Media talking head should be sued for endagering our vets and their families. All Because they want Kerry's blood ! Turning vet against vet. Making Kerry vets feel worse or as bad as they did when they first come home? And we know its all at the hand of the Bush Cheney Campaign !

[King Coal]

31. So Walt Starr is an evilDUer?

[Walt Starr]

32. You forgot "longtime"

:evilgrin:

[blm]

34. heheh...yep...once he makes up his mind, he's ALL evilDUer.

But, oh those primary battles. ;))))))))))))))))

[vetwife]

44. No I think Walt is a hero !

Where did that come from..The SWL are evildoers

[Walt Starr]

45. EvilDUer was a term we took onto ourselves when * started using

Evil-doer.

We're the "bad guys" to *.

[vetwife]

49. LOL ..Ok...........Congrats Walt.....you good evildoer !

Personally I am a libercrat...if Monkeyboy can make us words..we can too !

[iwantmycountryback]

36. Great job WaltStarr

:kick: Awesome.

[Nay]

37. Go, Walt! You have done this almost singlehandedly and deserve

much praise for it.

[trof]

38. Walt's fame spreads to BuzzFlash:

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/08/con04346.html

[David Zephyr]

40. BuzzFlash & MSNBC. Who Is Next? We Need More.

Thanks Trof for bringing this here.

We're all proud of Walt Starr!

[grasswire]

55. daily KOS has it

...as well as democrat.com.

Among other spots, I pushed it to Atrios and to Dan Froomkin at the WaPo. Dan doesn't publish until tomorrow morning, though. Atrios hasn't bitten yet.

[DemBones DemBones]

39. This is great! You go, Walt!

The questions must be asked.

[SidDithers]

41. Gratz again Walt...

and kick it back up there, baby.

Sid

[DancingBear]

43. Damn good job Walt_Starr!!

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

[cally]

46. Walt..you are my hero

What you found is important. Thanks and thanks to all DUers, bloggers, etc. who are pushing this information.

Walt: :yourock:

[cynatnite]

47. Way To Go, Walt!

:toast: :yourock:

Cyn:)

[NightOwwl]

48. Congratulations Walt!

From research to hot news item in one day. You are truly impressive.

[grasswire]

54. this is our new media

Twice in several days, this has happened.

Netizens have dug the story.

Bloggers picked it up.

Some other netizens have pushed it to the attention of broadcast media. (I spent hours today pushing the story and moving info from place to place.)

This is our STOVEPIPE. From DU to the American people. In hours.

[Walt Starr]

69. Participatory Investigative Journalism, Everybody on DU deserves the Kudos

Add DailyKOS and others to the list, too!

It's not just me. all I did was set out to compare Kerry's medals and ribbons to Bush's. I noticed some inconsistencies adn started asking questions.

Other DUers joined in, then DailyKOS.

The investigation is ongoing and will continue until we have some answers.

:evilgrin:

[tishaLA]

50. Congrats, Walt!

Excellent work.

[Karmadillo]

51. Great work, Walt. Pretty soon, the Swift Boat liars will be running ads

targeting you.

[DeepModem Mom]

52. Yesssss! Walt!!!

[datan]

56. Is this a real story?

ok I'm just wondering whether this is a big deal?

I mean, this is a unit medal right?
If it was the norm for his unit's officers to wear unit medals, is it fair to criticise him for doing so?

thanks

[senseandsensibility]

57. Well, Mr. Starr,

this is indeed an impressive accomplishment for a non-journalist. You put most of the so-called journalists to shame. Thank you, and let's hope this story really has legs!:toast: :party: :bounce:

[Tatiana]

58. Times like this, I LOVE DU and all my DUers!!!!!!!

Thanks and congrats to Walt!!!!!! :hug:

[in_cog_ni_to]

59. Walt is AWESOME!!!!!

WTG! Man, I hope Matthews picks up on this! Congrats, Walt! GREAT job!
:toast: :bounce:

[David Zephyr]

61. Walt Should Be The One ON MSNBC.

He did the research. It's his find. He can stay on message and answer every argument.

[Walt Starr]

62. I think just a comparison of what Kerry earned enxt to what Bush

*may have* earned is enough. Bush's miniscule little rack will look sick by comparison!

[David Zephyr]

63. **May Have**

"may have" being the operative term.

I agree with you that the two side by side says a lot.

You rock, by the way!

[Jawja]

64. KICK

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[RetroLounge]

65. Congrats to Walt Starr and the other hard working DU'ers

:yourock:

RL

[K8-EEE]

66. YEOW!!! YEOW YEOW YEOW!! GREAT WALT...

Oh I love it.

[nosmokes]

67. who da hell is walt starr?

he's my hero, for this week, at least!

great job, walt, great job. i hope this gets some legs.

[DeepModem Mom]

72. kick