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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:37 PM
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I'm seeing some posts stating that Barack's campaign should start hitting below the belt in his ads.
Does this mean that they should start bringing up the truths about his military record? Should they start mentioning the Keating Five? Should they bring up they way he divorced his ex-wife? Should they do an ad on him calling Cindy the C-word? Or, how McLame opposed the Martin Luther King Jr. Holiday?

He has some skeletons in his closet! Many, if people would do their research and find out the truth, can be very damaging to John McShame.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:38 PM
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1. yes to all of the above
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Franks Wild Years Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:39 PM
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2. Media response...
Here's what they'd say:

Divorce - Too personal, tasteless, unfair on the wife. Cindy C-Word - Unverifiable, made-up, invented etc. MLK - Black militant. Scary dark man!

Keating Five is the most feasible but the media would also find a way to swing that McCain's way, I'm sure.
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:47 PM
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7. You know what I found very interesting?
I looked Keating Five up in Wikipedia and it stated that John Glenn and John McCain had been cleared of all involvement. Not sure how accurate this is, but I am sure the Right-Wing are already ready for a rebuttal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:41 PM
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3. There's nothing "below the belt" about facts. Let some of this stuff come out at the convention,
then have at it all in the ads.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:41 PM
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4. Just focus on his 70 flip flops this year.
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 04:43 PM by tekisui
The fact that he has 40 Oil Lobbyists on his campaign. The fact that he has not cast a single vote in the Senate since April 8th. The fact that he consistently votes AGAINST veterans benefits. The fact that he doesn't know shit about what is going on in the world and cannot complete a sentence. Digging up the past would not be nearly as effective as squashing the current mcM$M brand.

Bury him in the present.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:42 PM
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5. Yes to Keating Five, divorce, calling Cindy a c*nt.
No on the military record, except maybe that his grades were abysmal at The Academy. That is a tinderbox and would come back to bite us. Look at what happened to Clark. People are too emotionally attached to the fact that he was a POW - logic and reason and truths won't make them see the light.
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:50 PM
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8. I can see where you are coming from with a military attack!
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:44 PM
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6. that's what we need 527s for
so Obama can call it "totally inappropriate" and call on the sponsors to pull the ad, but the message still gets out there.
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:52 PM
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9. True!
It has to be done where there is not connection what-so-ever to Barack.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:56 PM
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10. it would be a very bad idea for Obama to go negative in such a way.
The media, which already applies different standards to Obama and McCain, would roast Obama for going back on his pledge to run a 'different' kind of campaign and not engage in negative tactics. He'll be thrown completely on the defensive and the focus wont be on the substance of what is said about McCain it will be on Obama for saying it.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 05:14 PM
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11. Above the belt works just fine...
Exxon Mobil earned $12 billion in profit last quarter, all of it from gouging American motorists, but John McCain is dedicated to protecting their profits.

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 05:21 PM
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12. Obama has a better way to deal with his detractors that works quite well.
He doesn't need to stoop the the level of the republicans to get his point across.
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