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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:52 PM
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Welp, folks, it's time to throw "the kitchen sink" at that miserable old war-mongering bastard
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 01:52 PM by RMP2008
I am not pleased with the direction that this race is going at all. Senator Obama is losing the presidential election right now. The recently released Quinnipiac university polls of Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio which show a tightening of the race in those 3 critical states and this gallup poll which just came out showing Mccain moving into the lead is just quite frankly not acceptable. So, to go back in time to the primary season and to "borrow a phrase" from Senator Clinton's campaign staff, it's time to throw the kitchen sink at this bastard. I'm not as versed on the weaknesses of Gramps as I should be but off the top of my head I can think of attacking his mental state (just how does a man handle being tortured in a prisoner of war camp for 5 years-it's gotta do strange things to his head. Whisper about his bouts of anger and temper tantrums. Whisper about his flying off the handle.) Also, target the old women who are a bit disappointed that Senator Clinton was not the nominee and who are thinking about voting for Mccain by letting them know that this guy called his wife a c***t, Where is his respect for women? Hammer Mccain as eager ("bomb bomb bomb Iran") to go to war with Iran and lose another 4,000 of America's best and brightest youngsters. Bring up the "Keating Five" scandal anytime Tony Rezco is mentioned. Launch a full blown assault on his business dealings. Use Phil Graham's comments about a mental reccession again and again to show that Mccain is actually the one that is an elitist SOB.

All of the above doesn't even remotely begin to rise to the level of slime that has been thrown at Senator Obama. So, I say have at it. If we want to win this election (and we have to for the sake of the entire world), it's time to employ the kitchen sink. Don't worry about the charges of "oh he's just another politician". Negativity works.

Once the bastard's negative ratings have been raised, then we can use the VP choice and convention to define Senator Obama positively.

It's time to go to war because this thing is slipping away from us in a year that should have been ours. I advocate a policy that swiftboats the GOP right back.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:54 PM
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1. Last week, many posters were declaring victory. Now, they're declaring defeat.
If you insist on being swayed by day to day fluctuations, you will miss the big picture.

Yes, Obama's team needs to start controlling the narrative again.

But they did that all last week. To declare they are losing the race because of three days this week is reactionary and overblown.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:56 PM
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2. I simply refuse to believe those "polls" are a true reflection of what the people of this country
really want. How could ANYONE in their right mind vote to continue the Bush policies?
How could prez shit-for-brains have an approval rating of,like 17% (even that is too high for my mind to grasp)..and yet 40+% of the people are STILL going to vote for McSame? I just do not accept that.

I refuse to accept it...:mad: :puke: :crazy: :silly: :grr: :nuke:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:14 PM
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17. POLL FRAUD MUST PRECEDE VOTE FRAUD.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:14 PM
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18. POLL FRAUD MUST PRECEDE VOTE FRAUD.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:51 PM
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21. Yep. Absolutely true....
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 04:51 PM by BrklynLiberal
Great bumper sticker.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:57 PM
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3. "Kitchen sinks" don't work. Ask Hillary.

He's not going to defeat McCain by becoming just like him.


Obama is handling this almost perfectly. Relax.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:58 PM
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5. I agree with you
I think that Obama is handling McSames dirty plays rather well.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 02:57 PM
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12. Indeed!
He can't complain about McCain's actions if he's acting just like him. Best to remain on the high road and let the jerks wallowing in the gutter claim he's riding a high horse... it confuses them so!
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:58 PM
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4. Not yet
This is a chess game not checkers and Obama has shown he is a master at chess. A little faith in these guys please.
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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 02:04 PM
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7. I don't think that the public knows who Mccain really is
An arch conservative just like Bush. They think he's a moderate maverick. It's time to dissuade the public of that notion and teach them who Mccain really is.

As far as controlling the narrative, this is something that has concerned me since the March 4 primaries. Senator Obama needs to consistently control it.

I'm not panicked because I think that Senator Obama will pull this out through a) the vp choice b) the convention or c)showing his remarkable leadership skills and potential during the debates where he will seem presidential and in control) but I'd prefer to have this race put away in early September, not after the debates.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 02:20 PM
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9. its all of that
If the primaries showed us anything it should have been how good the Obama camp is at moving the story where they want it. Every time he needed coverage they found a way to get it.

You are right theres still a whole lot of people out there who still think John is a maverick and I suspect thats why he sits so high in the polls soon. But its still early. Obama had a great week last week. The olympics are next then his convention where it will be all obama all week then mcgrumpies then the real fun begins with the debates. No where in the next month and a half short of the puke convention does mcsame get a chance to control the news cycle with anything but negative posturing that is already getting blow back. He cant keep it up for a month without looking utterly pathetic.

This race is planned out all the way to the white house by the Obama camp believe it.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 02:00 PM
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6. and his drug-pilfering wife... how many pairs of Ferragamo shoes does he have
in his closet and $500+ a pop, anyway?

Time to blast the old guy in the ass.

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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 02:04 PM
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8. Four years ago Democrats used the convention to build up John Kerry ...
... rather than really tearing down George Bush. I guess the thinking was that the public was already disappointed in Bush and all we needed to do was show that Kerry was a good alternative.

I think everyone agrees now that that was a mistake. The electorate at large doesn't necessarily see things the way we (political junkies) do. We could scarcely imagine that anyone would find four more years of Bush-Cheney remotely palatable, when in fact ~50% could and did.

This year it's hard for us to image that anyone can look at John McCain and see a guy who could handle the job of president or who would represent a break from the Bush years. It's tempting to think that the rest of the voters think that too. But that would be a mistake. What's obvious to us isn't necessarily obvious to everybody. We have to work hard to convince people that McCain is who we think he is.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:10 PM
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14. But now it's been 8 years, not 4 years of *
8 years of Republicans in the White House. Now another 4 must seem a lot less palatable.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:19 PM
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19. That's true, but I still think we need to reinforce the idea "McCain = Bush".
The danger is that people will buy McCain's bogus, media-created "maverick" image. We have to get the word out that, when you really look at it, McCain is a pretty conventional Republican.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:43 PM
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20. And that where he was a "maverick" he has flipped over to the
* position. Probably to appeal to their hideous "base."

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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 02:42 PM
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10. The republiCONS are crying now when he is not attacking..
imagine what they will do if Obama really does start to attack..
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 02:49 PM
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11. Nancy Pelosi is in the way of Obama's success.
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 03:38 PM by The Backlash Cometh
What you all don't realize is, that Republican voters know their way of life is crooked. They will vote for McCain just to protect their secret culture. Until you expose them. Once you expose them, they will suddenly remember how to be honest.
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:00 PM
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13. Another turning point will come when Chicken McBushets chooses a running mate
He's screwed no matter what. Either he chooses a moderate which will piss off the fundie base even more than he already has, or he'll choose a wacko who will scare the mainstreamers away in droves.

If it's the former, the rethugs will have totally lost their most reliable bloc. If it's the latter, then the fact that he'll be the oldest president in history becomes much, much more relevant.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:12 PM
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15. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Sorry... I don't have the energy to expand on that. :/
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:13 PM
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16. Screw the kitchen sink. Just speak the TRUTH... LOUD and OFTEN!!! nt
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