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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:52 AM
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Rasmussen: 30% of Conservative Democrats Say They’ll Vote for McCain
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/30_of_conservative_democrats_say_they_ll_vote_for_mccain

Thursday, July 31, 2008

Thirty percent (30%) of conservative Democrats say they’re voting for John McCain. Rasmussen Reports data also shows the Republican hopeful picking up support from 19% of White Democrats and 15% of Democrats over the age of 50. These results are from national telephone survey interviews conducted with 14,000 Likely Voters during the two weeks ending July 24. The sample includes 5,074 Democratic voters.

The data shows that 43% of Democrats consider themselves politically liberal, 37% say they’re moderate, and 18% are conservative.

Forty-one percent (41%) of conservative Democrats have a favorable opinion of John McCain. Sixty-seven percent (67%) say the same about Obama.

Among liberal Democrats, just 23% have a positive opinion about McCain, but 90% give Obama favorable reviews.

Obama is supported by 78% of Democrats overall, a figure that includes 62% of conservative Democrats. He leads 84% to 13% among Democrats under 30. But, among those over 65, Obama earns just 74% of the vote while McCain is preferred by 16% of Democratic senior citizens. It is interesting to note that just 2% of Democrats under 30 hold back from selecting either Obama or McCain. That number grows to 9% among Democrats over 65. Full crosstabs are available for Premium Members.

While Obama is losing some Democratic voters, he begins with a significant advantage over McCain by virtue of the fact that there are far more Democrats in the country than Republicans.

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This article also includes something mentioned in recent Rasmussen daily tracking -- that there are twice as many uncommitted voters in their polling as there were at the same point in the campaign in 2004. And there are more Democrats than Republicans in the uncommitted category, and they're leaning more toward McCain than Obama.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:53 AM
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1. Strikes me as false.
as does anything from the Republican pollster Rasmussen.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:00 AM
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7. No that's probably about right
The term "Conservative Democrat" is kind of code phrase for "racist cracker" where I'm originally from. These, to use another media code word for "racist crackers", "working class whites" vote repuke on a regular basis but still call themselves Democrats because daddy and grandpappy hated the Republican party for taking away their darker skinned property back at the end of the 19th century. This is not a constituency that Obama is going to win or even bother trying to talk too IMO, they are a lost and repulsive group of redneck pricks.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 11:55 AM
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24. They've all got to be over the age of 70 too..
the ones that were too lazy to change their registration to Republican back in the 60's.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:54 AM
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2. Trash....all of them.
What's driving these "conservative Democrats"?


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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:05 AM
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13. Racist! When I think of conservative democratic Zell Miller
automatically comes to my thoughts. Whatever happened to that evil-looking man? Lieberman comes to mind. So it fits that they would not vote for Obama. Many are the so-called Reagan democrats that haven't voted for a democrat in years. Remember that melt-down Zell had over Kerry? LOL
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 11:59 AM
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25. They're non existent..
just like the "Reagan Democrats" were. They're repubs who for some reason won't call themselves that. I'm not going to lose sleep over them.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:57 AM
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3. WTF is wrong with these people? I'm a pretty conservative Dem, and it wouldn't even
OCCUR to me to vote for McFossil. Obama is hardly "far-left". These people must still worship at McSenile's Temple Of Mavericky Maverickness.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:59 AM
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5. I don't think people have made up their minds yet.
It's the same problem Obama has in general. I think as time goes on, and the convention goes on, and the debates go on, Obama will gain more support. You can see it in some other polls. Obama gets stronger with Democrats as time goes on.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:03 AM
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10. You're not that kind of Conservative Dem
You're probably a lot more like the conservative Dem I think of myself as. This is actually only 30% of Conservative Dems which is a pretty small proportion and is made up, in large part, of the Dixicrat racist crackers that I grew up with.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:58 AM
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4. Are you concerned?
:shrug:
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:20 AM
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17. No he is angry because Hillary wont be the VP
Just watch how he will bombard the forum with nonsense threads like this.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:59 AM
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6. Clinton 2012 still alive!!!!
:rofl:
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:01 AM
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8. So 18% of Dems are conservative and 30% of them like McCain...That's under 6% of all Dems...not bad
not bad at all
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:01 AM
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9. That's a pretty striking number if it's true
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:04 AM
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12. Why?
It's 30% of the people that call themselves Conservative Democrats not 30% of the Democrats.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:04 AM
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11. What is 30% of 18%?
1/5 of Democrats self-identify as conservative - 18%.
1/3 of those conservative democrats will go for McCain - 30%
1/3 of 1/5 would be 1/15 of the total - @6%.

sounds like the normal expected crossover that we get any election year.

They will be more than made up for by registering new voters.

No worry.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:17 AM
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16. Exactly the Computation I Was About to Post
not good, but not as bad as it sounds. And after the primaries, not unexpected.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:11 AM
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14. Why is this a bad thing? That means 70% might not.
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:15 AM
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15. RASMUSSEN: 70% of Conservative Dems favor Obama!
When you put it that way......
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:21 AM
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18. Good One! NT
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:21 AM
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19. Alternate headline: 30% of liberal Republcans say they'll vote for Obama

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:26 AM
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20. Another "LIKELY" voter poll
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:31 AM
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21. 5.4% Over all.
that actually sounds about right.

So we need to increase voter turnout to counter.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 11:52 AM
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22. Way to have a headline inflate a story -- 30% of the 18% of Dems that are conservative
Headline makes it seem that a whole lot of Dems are planning to vote for JSM III.

Will we be seeing all the talking heads waving it around as though 30% of all Dems will vote for their little buddy, John Sidney McCombover III ?
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 11:53 AM
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23. Question: What were those numbers in 2000 and 2004? Numbers in a vaccuum are meaningless.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:03 PM
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26. Why doesn't this surprise me? These are the Reagan Democrats or
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 12:04 PM by Liberal_Stalwart71
"hard working whites" who voted for Hillary in the primaries. They are racists and would never vote for Obama anyway. This is not news. The fact that they are deliberately voting against their best interests means that this is about race and not about policy or anything else. The racism of the Reagan years rears its ugly head. Don't be fooled. These people weren't voting for Obama anyway.
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