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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 08:56 PM
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CNN POLL: 40% say McCain is attacking Obama unfairly.
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 08:56 PM by jefferson_dem
22% say Obama is attacking McCain unfairly.

This is playing out much like the primaries when Hillary went too unfairly negative, too much and too soon. She paid a big price.

We'll watch to see how high the negatives climb for McCain now that he's unloaded the way over-the-top celebrity ad ... and Obama and the media (to a degree) are starting to call him on his "low road" bullshit.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/30/campaign.poll/index.html
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 08:57 PM
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1. but, you have to remember dems and repubs might have a different mindset about
what kind of attacking is fair.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:01 PM
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3. Oh, the repugs are loving this slimy red meat.
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 09:01 PM by jefferson_dem
Indies, on the other hand, are turned off. Several repug-types have said so these past couple days. As McCain has gone more negative, he risks turning off critical "swing voters" in a big way. He's already at 40% which includes some voters in that very group.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:00 PM
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2. Yeah but at the end when she was polling that way
She was winning primaries. So people say it's unfair and they still allow it to influence their vote.

(For the record, I have long believed Obama participated in the last 5 weeks of the primary with one hand behind his back. He had already started on his national campaign and spent significantly less time campaigning in those states than he did through April. The point about the influence of unfair negative ads remains nonetheless.)
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:28 PM
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6. Nah, I wouldn't say that she did that well in the end even though she was winning some,
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 09:32 PM by Arrowhead2k1
She only seemed to be 'winning' because some of the last remaining contests were heavily stacked in her favour. Even with most of her victories, she was initially expected to do much better. For instance, Pennsylvania wasn't exactly the double digit blow-out people thought she was guaranteed, she actually got like 9.7% or something. She just scraped by in Indiana. North Carolina was a blow out, for Obama! West Virginia and Peurto Rico? Seriously, who gives a feck about West Virginia and Peurto Rico!? Oh but Kentucky! Yeah, yeah, it was all hers from the get go.

My point is that at the time, the media had us all on the edge of our seats because of the circumstances of many of Obama's weaker states so happening to be holding their elections at the end of the primary season. They went on and on about his 'momentum' and if he was actually losing it! But now we can look back and safely say, no he wasn't losing much of anything, he was actually gaining grounds in those states he was doomed to fail. All of the Hillary camps intense negative campaigning had failed to truly resonate and some of her key demographics were slowly but surely moving over to Obama even in the wake of Hillary's too little too late victories.

Anyways, shrill negative campaigning doesn't appear to be very effective against Obama, I'm surprised yet pleased that the McCain camp hasn't figured this out yet. :)
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:33 PM
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12. You are absolutely right
In fact she won several crucial primaries even when 60 percent of those who were polled would say Hillary attacked Obama unfairly.

Obama needs to hit back on McCain pretty hard. His low road ad is just the first step.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:01 PM
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4. The Neg ads will backfire on MaGOO.....look at the Polls. Obama increasing the Lead
More Neg ads mean more support for Obama....its clear as day
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:14 PM
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5. The mistake McCain is making is letting himself become
identified with his negative ads. He's wrecking his own image. He really wants to mix it up with Obama personally and O is not falling for it.

If he had relied on outside groups, 527's, etc., these attack ads might have fared better.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:45 PM
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7. Only "40%"? What happened to the
38%? The big freakin' problem for mccain is all his negative ads are LIES..he isn't reality based.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:50 PM
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8. I just love these two clips.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:58 PM
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10. FLIPPITY FLOP
:puke:
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:06 AM
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14. And they stand by their words because
they ride the 'straight talk express.' :rofl:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:54 PM
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9. Any recent polls on McCain's favoribility ratings?
I'd love to see those take a dive.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:27 PM
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11. I don't want Obama to win, I want him to landslide McPuck!
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:59 PM
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13. That is one of the best poll results of the entire cycle!
Doesn't everyone see what that is? It has nothing to do with attacking unfairly. I've looked at that poll question for more than a damn decade.

It's a likability ratio. That's all it is. If you like someone you never think anything they do is unfair. That 22% is one of the lowest numbers I've ever seen.

No way Obama can remain that low but McCain figures to rise also. I'm telling you, if we retain that type of lead there's no way Obama can lose. Gore and Kerry always trailed Bush badly in the same question, even when it made zero sense. The public simply didn't like them.

This is the sleeper poll and thread of the entire cycle. We'll allow hundreds of replies to threads that are comparatively meaningless.
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