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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:07 PM
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CNN poll: Obama's trip didn't change race
CNN: July 30, 2008
Poll shows Obama's trip didn't change race
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

(CNN) — It was a weeklong trip that drew blanket media coverage and sharp criticism from Republicans, but Barack Obama's recent tour abroad did little to alter the standing of the presidential race, a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll shows.

According to the survey — the first national poll conducted entirely after the Democratic presidential candidate's trip to Iraq, Afghanistan, the Middle East, and Europe — the race for the White House has remained virtually unchanged since late June, with Obama holding a 51-44 percent edge over Sen. John McCain. In a similar poll conducted one month ago, Obama held a 5-point lead over the senator from Arizona , 50-45 percent....

The new survey also suggests the trip — carefully designed to burnish Obama's foreign policy credentials — did little to alter voters' perceptions of how the Illinois senator would handle national security issues. "Did Obama's trip help his standing with the public on foreign policy issues? Not really," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. "Obama has not picked up any ground against McCain on foreign issues and some 52 percent think McCain would do a better job than Obama on the war in Iraq — virtually the same number who felt that way in April."

The poll also shows the presumptive Republican presidential nominee has an edge on terrorism, Iran, Afghanistan and the Middle East — in fact, every foreign policy and national security issue addressed tilts toward McCain. (Terrorism, Afghanistan, Iraq, Middle East, Iran, and Immigration.)

But in what is good news for Obama, the poll suggests few of the McCain campaign's criticisms of the trip have stuck — especially charges Obama was presumptuously acting as if he had already won the election, and claims he nixed a visit with injured troops because members of the media could not accompany him. Instead, more than two-thirds of voters surveyed said the trip was appropriate for a presidential candidate, and 72 percent think Obama cares abut veterans and the troops currently in Iraq.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/30/poll-shows-obamas-trip-didnt-change-race/
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:10 PM
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1. And he's down in today's Gallup, too. WTF???? I don't get it! nt
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:11 PM
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2. He's UP in this poll by 2% compared to the last poll. n/t
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:38 PM
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14. what the fuck are you talking about?
Uh, he's expanded his lead in this poll.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:15 PM
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3. Nobody is paying any attention but us weirdos right now
Most normal people will not pay attention until the last month. That is why debates are important.

Listen, people on DU go on and on about someone getting "bitch-slapped" on MSNBC in the middle of the day. Very few people watch MSNBC during the day and fewer watch it for politics - except for shut-ins and weirdos.

It is summer outside. Go enjoy it.
The election will still be here after you catch some fish and play some golf.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:17 PM
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4. Yeppers... I agree completely..... don't sweat the polls until 3 days after the first debate
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:35 PM
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6. Actually, he's slowly being defined just as Kerry was throughout the summer of 2004
Negative ads and the publicity they generate are insidious- and they work.
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:32 PM
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5. No, he's still black!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:39 PM
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7. Who? Omaba?
Obama is black?

OMG!

WTF!

On a serious note.....back in grade school in the sixties I didn't know any black kids, but there were lots of Mexican families because of the central valley farm industry.

When we moved into the city my high school had a few black kids and I made friends with one, I guess I hadn't learned to have a problem with them.

My point: I never dreamed then that we'd still be this fucked up as a country in race relations when I'd be 51 years old.

Of course, I wouldn't have guessed we'd be a wasteful SUV driving, war loving, fuck-the-environment society either.


sigh.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:57 PM
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8. In regards to national security issues
Did everybody whom was polled completely miss the fact that Bush/McCain have mostly (if not completely) reversed their position on withdrawing from Iraq almost immediately following Obama's foreign policy speech about Iraq (right before his trip) and his subsequent trip to Iraq where Prime Minister Maliki pretty much endorsed Obama's position? WTF exactly gives McCain an "edge" on foreign policy issues anyway? Most people opposed his treasured "surge" and a majority of people want us out of Iraq now or at least sometime in the near future (earlier than the 100 year mark McCain initially suggested and even earlier than the subsequent 5 year mark he later suggested). Obama is not even President yet and he's already influencing WH foreign policy and McCain has been in the Senate for 25 years and he still thinks invading/occupying Iraq was a GOOD IDEA and that the "surge" (escalation) was an even better one.
:wtf:

I know this is a CNN poll, so I'll just take it with the usual grain of salt. HOPEFULLY (if the people they polled are as ignorant as they seem), they will start realizing that, like Wesley Clark correctly pointed out, just because McCain served in the armed force doesn't mean that he will naturally be a better President because of it, particularly when people start becoming more aware of his actual positions on issues. HOPEFULLY.

It is good to know, however, that McCain's whiny temper tantrums didn't move the polls towards him but one must ask (if the polls are to be believed) WTF IS shifting the polls towards him?
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:03 PM
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9. He broke the 50% line..that is huge! NT
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:57 PM
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11. That IS huge! Thanks for making that point, peacetrain. nt
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 08:08 PM
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15. I have been waiting on pins and needles for that 50% mark
so happy it was Obama who hit it.
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trewsx11 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:04 PM
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10. But he's still leading, isn't he?
:)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:01 PM
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12. WTF...the fucking mediawhores on cnn do nothing but RAG on
Obama and then they have a poll.

Fucking Pravda Fucking Goebbels Central.

They only way the corporatewhoreshits at cnn, msnbc, abc, nbc, cbs are ever going to report facts instead of Enquire shit is if the country laughs in their fucking face.
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