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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 06:56 AM
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The Daily Widget – Thursday, July 24 – Obama 344, McCain 194 – Expanding the Base



Contents:
1. Tidbits
2. Widgets
3. New State Polls
4. Daily Tracking – Electoral Votes
5. Daily Tracking – Wigand Electoral Average
6. Daily Tracking – Popular Vote and Swing States Trading
7. Electoral College Map, Links and Sources


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1. TIDBITS – Expanding the Base

Grantcart and I created the Wigand Electoral Average (WEA) to track each candidate’s base (basis, or center of gravity) on the electoral map, and to take the swing states mostly out of the hands of the pollsters and put them into the hands of the people. We studied historical electoral maps and gauged each candidate’s initial standings in the current election to arrive at an even base for each side, and a balanced set of swing states.

Our original base study found a blue base with 200 electoral votes, a red base with 199 electoral votes, and a set of 12 swing states with 139 electoral votes (69 blue, 70 red). The total initial base for each side was 269 to 269. This is an all-around balanced base and swing for both sides.

We are proud to report that Barack Obama’s base has grown by 15% since the primaries ended. Eighty-one electoral votes from seven red states, both base and swing, have managed to find themselves in Obama’s pocket, with zero electoral votes going the other way (see charts below).

Section 5 below reviews the progress of the Wigand Electoral Average and the group of swing states every day. FIGURE 5a shows how the group of swing states are trading on Intrade as a whole. FIGURE 5b compares the WEA Index to the national daily tracking polls and the daily trading figures.








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2. WIDGETS



^ FIGURE 2a. This is what we refer to as the “Widget”. In the white section, it shows Obama’s and McCain’s electoral vote projection from three different sources. 270 would be a majority. In the yellow section, it shows three sources of trading and averages for the candidates. The scale for these is 0 to 100, with 50 being a majority. Intrade shows the trading, while RCP-av shows the aggregate average of all the state polls. The Wigand Electoral Average is our own indicator, and shows how the candidates will do if the undecideds nationwide break the same way as the swing states.



^ FIGURE 2b. The Wigand Electoral Average is our own indicator, and shows how the candidates will do if the undecideds nationwide break the same way as the swing states. Each of the twelve swing states are listed below the indicator’s current score. The closing figures on Intrade are shown next to each state, with a column to show the change from the previous day. The scale for these is 0 to 100, with 50 being a majority.


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3. NEW STATE POLLS

New polls in Florida and Virginia flip them back to blue today, while Minnesota and New Jersey remain strong for Obama. Our candidate bats a thousand and goes 4 for 4 today.


Florida Obama 49, McCain 47 (Rasmussen, 7/22, +/- 4.5, 500 LV)
Minnesota Obama 52, McCain 39 (Rasmussen, 7/22, +/- 4.5, 500 LV)
New Jersey Obama 42, McCain 28, Undecided 23 (Monmouth/Gannett, 7/21, +/- 3.3, 874 RV)
Virginia Obama 46, McCain 44 (Public Policy Polling, 7/20, +/- 2.7, 1327 LV)


Scale:
Strong Obama (10% or greater)
Weak Obama (5% to 9%)
Lean Obama (0% to 4%)
Lean McCain (0% to 4%)
Weak McCain (5% to 9%)
Strong McCain (10% or greater)


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4. DAILY TRACKING – ELECTORAL VOTES



^ FIGURE 4a. This graph shows the daily tracking of Obama’s projected electoral votes from three sources. 270 is a majority of the electoral votes. The blue line shows daily tracking from 538.com, which projects what the outcome should be on election day. The red line shows daily tracking from Electoral-Vote.com, which shows a current snapshot of Obama’s electoral progress if the undecideds break evenly. The green line is my own projection, and it shows a current snapshot of Obama’s electoral progress if the undecideds break the same way as the swing states. A trend line is used (dashed green line) to show the average progress since May 19 and possible route for the next seven days.



^ FIGURE 4b. This graph shows Obama’s green line and red line from the previous graph, and compares it to John Kerry’s 2004 progress (orange line) as shown from Electoral-Vote.com. (Both the red line and the orange line show data from Electoral-Vote.com)


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5. DAILY TRACKING – WIGAND ELECTORAL AVERAGE



^ FIGURE 5a. This graph shows the daily tracking of the swing states total from the Wigand Electoral Average widget above (second chart from the top). To show Obama’s progress in the swing states, divide the latest closing figure by 1200.



^ FIGURE 5b. Wigand vs. National Polls, RCP Average and Trading. The Wigand Electoral Average uses both poll averages and trading (swing states), and this graph compares it to the national daily tracking polls from Gallup, Rasmussen and Real Clear Politics (average), as well as the closing trading figures from Intrade (people buying shares with real money) and Rasmussen Markets (people using fake money).


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6. DAILY TRACKING – POPULAR VOTE AND SWING STATES TRADING



^ FIGURE 6a. I am projecting 126,750,000 million votes on election day, which is the total 2004 votes plus population growth for each state. A total projected popular vote is calculated for each candidate based on projected votes on election day this year multiplied by each state’s current poll results. This graph shows the daily tracking of the popular vote calculations.



^ FIGURE 6b. This graph shows the daily tracking of each swing state’s closing figure on Intrade. The scale is 0 to 100 with 50 being a majority. I commonly refer to the range from 40.00 to 60.00 as “The Zone” because the states in The Zone are true swing states this year.


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7. ELECTORAL COLLEGE MAP, LINKS AND SOURCES





Yesterday’s Widget
Full Weekly Tracking
Past editions of THE MATH

Sources:
Pollster.com
FiveThirtyEight.com
Electoral-Vote.com
Intrade
Rasmussen Markets
RCP Average
RCP Latest Polls


What is this? THE MATH’s Daily Widget was created to track multiple daily sources which measure the potential success of Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. Projected Electoral Votes are on a scale of 0 to 538, with 270 being a majority, or projected win. Trading and Averages are on a scale of 0 to 100, with 50.1 being a majority, or projected win.

The Wigand Electoral Average uses public polling results to determine base states for both parties and a short list of swing states, and combines the actual electoral votes from base states with a weighted Intrade calculation for electoral votes from swing states to derive an average on a scale of 0 to 100. On this scale, greater than 50.00 is considered a win for Barack Obama. An average of 50.10 would yield 270 electoral votes, and an average of 100.00 would yield 538 electoral votes. More Information


As always, I’m open to your feedback and suggestions, and I will be happy to explain anything!

Feel free to use these charts and graphs anywhere on Democratic Underground.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:01 AM
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1. Welcome back, Florida!
I really enjoy watching the maps and the charts. It would be fun to make an animation of the map for the entire campaign, and watch the colors switch back and forth, ending in a sea of blue!

Morning to ya, phrign!:hi: :kick:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:10 AM
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2. An animation of all the maps is possible :)
I'd love to see that myself. It's going on my to-do list (probably after Labor Day, lol)

:donut: Good morning, tek! :hi:
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:31 AM
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3. Nice!
Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 07:32 AM by DarthDem
I love that Florida poll. Great widget today as always. Too bad everyone over at 538 (the webmaster *and* many of the commenters, including of course trolls) flipped their wigs over the Raz Ohio poll, which was so silly (McCrone leading among women and ahead among independents by 20+, etc.), leading them to have the race so goofily close right now. EV and your WEA have it much more sensibly (even if I don't trust the Florida poll entirely).

Question for you, phrig. Yesterday you said something about PPP being trustworthy - - who are they? Some of the commenters on 538 (again, wigging over the latest Raz Ohio numbers) seemed to dismiss PPP as a Dem outfit.

Great work!
:hi:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:48 AM
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4. PPP is a Democratic polling agency
But they shouldn't be dismissed as such. They may be partisans, but they are excellent at removing bias from their electoral polls. That being said, some bias may appear in their issue polls, however.

Public Policy Polling is using larger samples this year, and doing so decreases the margin of error and makes their poll results stronger and more reliable. Partisan pollsters for republicans (Strategic Vision, Civitas, TelOpinion, Moore Information, Faux News, TargetPoint, McLaughlin, etc.) use much smaller samples and are therefore weaker and less reliable. The republican partisan pollsters will put all their bias into the electoral polls, and leave the bias out of most of their issues polls to appear legitimate.

IMO

Thanks Darth! :hi:
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:25 AM
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12. Ah - - thank YOU!

Thanks for the PPP explanation. I can see how there would be the attempt to dismiss them as the Dem equivalent of Strategic Myopia. Still, I agree with you that a larger sample size makes more sense. Also, who's to say that Rasmussen shouldn't be viewed as an (R) poll outfit?
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:16 PM
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16. It's a question of table sides, lol
(re: Rasmussen) On which side of the table does the money change hands? Over the table, or under the table? Allegedly. :D
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:06 AM
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5. Thanks for this information. eom
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:13 AM
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7. yw chieftain
:hi:
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fight4my3sons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:11 AM
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6. Good morning!
We like tek's animation idea also. Have a good day at work. :hi:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:15 AM
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8. We have a quorum, lol
And two and a half votes for animation :D

:donut: Good morning! :hi: :hi:
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:15 AM
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9. Gotta love that "DC +81" n/t
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:18 PM
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17. I find it revealing that people who live in Washington DC
don't trust the republicans at all. DC +81 is the actual result from the 2004 presidential election :D
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:16 AM
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10. Off to work kick
Enjoy your day
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:39 AM
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11. great job
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:01 PM
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14. back atcha
***high five*** :D
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 10:28 AM
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13. I've Seen that Kind of Animation Last Election
I'll have to hunt around for it.

Love the 6 column table! It really lays it out. Now, if you added in some dimension of fatness, based on the number of electoral votes per each state....and then animated that...it would be the 60's all over again! Psychodelic, Baby!
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:07 PM
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15. Wasn't the 04 animation from electoral-vote.com?
Not sure, but I think I ran across it a couple weeks ago.

Maybe I can make the states that switch colors pop like a balloon before the color changes. Gotta roll a doob beforehand to get the creative juices flowing, lol
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 05:02 PM
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18. Yes, I Believe It Was
And it was migraine inducing, too.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 06:10 PM
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19. I remember the migraine, lol
Maybe I could use a fader, and set it to some Miles Davis :D
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