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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 12:51 PM
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"If you ask me, there isn’t much suspense in this year’s election:"
L-ish Economic Prospects




By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: July 18, 2008

...Given the state of the economy, it’s hard to see how Barack Obama can lose the 2008 election. An anecdote: This week a passing motorist shouted at a crowd waiting outside a branch of IndyMac, the failed bank, “Bush economics didn’t work! They are right-wing Republican thieves!” The crowd cheered.

But what the economy gives, it can also take away. If the current slump follows the typical modern pattern, the economy will stay depressed well into 2010, if not beyond — plenty of time for the public to start blaming the new incumbent, and punish him in the midterm elections.

To avoid that fate, Mr. Obama — if he is indeed the next president — will have to move quickly and forcefully to address America’s economic discontent. That means another stimulus plan, bigger, better, and more sustained than the one Congress passed earlier this year. It also means passing longer-term measures to reduce economic anxiety — above all, universal health care.

If you ask me, there isn’t much suspense in this year’s election: barring some extraordinary mistakes, Mr. Obama will win. Assuming he wins, the real question is what he’ll make of his victory.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/18/opinion/18krugman.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin


Good news...bad news - Obama is up to the task. His victory will give us all a reason to believe that our country can do better for it's citizens - contrary to the belittling psy-ops maneuvers
lately undertaken by Republicans.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 12:53 PM
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1. It's a real sleeper, alright. Wake me when it's over.
Yawwwn...:sarcasm:

:hi:
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:07 PM
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3. Uh-Uh!!!
We'll wake you in time to vote on November 4, when it's ALMOST over, OK?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:30 PM
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6. Oh, yes....wake me just BEFORE its over...LOL
:hi:
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 12:55 PM
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2. Don't Count On It
I don't count on Obama's victory.

As it is, the media gives him far more attention than McCain. This could be a good thing, but they also overplay and repeatedly rehash Obama's gaffes and apparent mistatements. Any nuance is called a flip-flop. McSame's flip-flops don't get nearly the same attention.

And while I'm not convinced the Republicans deliberately steal elections, I'm not so sure they don't, either.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:21 PM
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5. They steal them...
Fair and square.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:19 PM
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4. Actually, the fear of it being stolen again constantly keeps my stomach in knots
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:32 PM
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7. basically
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:59 PM
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8. Another "stimulus" plan...
...you've got to be kidding me. Why don't they just let "Helicopter Ben" throw out the bags of worthless dollars as he flies over the country.

Get to the core of the problems instead of making it worse with more "free money."

Krugman has really gone off the rails lately...
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 02:15 PM
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9. If the Repiggies Didn't Own the Media and the Voting Machinez…
…it would be a landslide for sure. But they do, so it's a "horse race", and we know what happens to horse races.



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SparkyMac Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 03:17 PM
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10. A great article concerning Obama's "Tidal Wave Potential"
I like this part :

State Polls Indicate Obama's Tidal-Wave Potential


...But if you ignore the national numbers and instead consider individual state polls, a realigning landslide suddenly seems to be within Obama's reach. In state after state, he's performing far better than John Kerry did in 2004, and numerous Republican bastions are seemingly in play. Consider Indiana, which George W. Bush won by 21 points in 2004 and which lasted voted for a Democrat 44 years ago—and which Obama leads by one point in the most recent survey. Or North Carolina, which Bush carried by 12 points in '04 but where the latest poll has Obama within three. And so on. In North Dakota, the race is tied. In South Dakota, Obama trails by just four. Ditto for Alaska, perhaps the most Republican state in the union. He also leads in Montana and Colorado and in all but one recent survey in Virginia.....

http://www.observer.com/2008/politics/state-polls-indicate-obamas-tidal-wave-potential-national-polls-are-tight-both-are-rig
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