Call me crazy, but I dont think McSame will be on the ballot in November

[NightWatcher]

I listened to him give a stump speech yesterday on CNN Radio as I drove. At first I could not tell if the connection was bad or if McSame was cracking up. He continued speaking and sounded horrible. He was unable to put together two consecutive sentances without error and had a real hard time staying on point.

Now McSame is smearing Obama and trying to "hint" that they are worried about something happening to him abroad. I think that McSame is going to adopt a kitchen sink approach to the first few months of the general election, only to be forced FOR HEALTH REASONS, to back out of the election. I dont think that McSame can, nor will, survive the head to head with Obama in the public light. He will step aside and allow the GOP to run either Romney (as a successful businessman in a time of economic hardship, who knows how to make money) or will use the occassion of McSame stepping aside to pick another candidate to rally the base with little time for public vetting (September Surprise). The GOP switch will take the media attention away from Obama as we come into October and a certain "bump" will put the new contender within range for the reich to steal the election as they did in 2000 and 2004 with their voting machines and entrenched storm troopers within Secretary of State Offices (like Kathryn Harris in Florida from '00)

McSame looks bad physically, and appears even worse mentally. I think he is just buying time while the GOP scheme on who they can run at the last minute.

Just my two cents, which isnt worth anything these days.

[Captain Hilts]

1. I don't either. nt

[Richardo]

2. I think this is perfectly plausible

I've been thinking the same thing.

[Mist]

4. Me neither. But who will the Rethugs get to run? nt

[TlalocW]

3. I think the GOP would like to do this

But I don't think McCain's ego would let him go gently into that good night. The GOP nominating machine seems to often run on the principle of, "It's my turn now, damn it!" ala Bob Dole and McCain. W. was an unfortunate aberration. McCain thinks he deserves the presidency based on the fact that he's been around so long.

TlalocW

[Mist]

5. McSame also thinks he should be Pres. to make up for 5 years as a prisoner. nt

[NightWatcher]

8. being President is not a reward for your daddy being Pres, your husband being Pres, or anything else

[cliffordu]

9. LOL. Sure it is. Didn't you get the memo?

[cliffordu]

6. I've been thinking and saying this for months - Gramps is a distraction and

the worse he looks to the Repub base, the better the stand in is going to look.

After another month of this doddering old fool, the better the new Repub will look.

Look for "healh problems" to require pops to step down.


Hey....what about that Republican that is going on the Europe trip with Obama?

The one that the tools have been in here associating with a VP slot -

This European trip gives this guy mass street exposure, and the level of Machiavellian paranoia is perfect for the party of Karl Rove....

[Egnever]

12. Hagel is not going to solidify the republican base

any more than Mcsame did. You can put the concern over that one right out of your head. If it happens it will be hard line conservative that replaces him.

[SwampG8r]

20. hey cliff

looks like we might need a bigger bandwagon huh?
this is what folks like cliff and i have been saying for months people
only now i dont see as many "you are nuts to think that " replies as when we first said it

[cliffordu]

28. Well, sheeit, I guess we do need a bigger bandwagon...

NIXON wasn't this big a doofus and McCain is obviously very ill - he cannot tell the same bullshit story twice - I think this is his last mission from the guy who he hugged in that famous photograph...

He'll go down in history as a hero who valiantly tried to serve his country one last time.....until he got too sick to continue...

Look for Romney.



And you do know, swampg8r, that great minds think alike!

:toast:



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[ieoeja]

7. Okay.

You're crazy.

[Marie26]

10. Could be

So his VP choice will be very important. In my more paranoid moments, I wonder if maybe McCain is just intended to be the stand-in until the running-mate can quietly take over the nomination after McCain retires for "health reasons". Jeb Bush? Lieberman? If it's really just McCain, it's like the GOP has given up already.

[WeDidIt]

11. It'll never happen

It's a done deal.

[DainBramaged]

13. Nah

we won't get fooled again. And neither will the dumbasses who still support a Reich-wing viewpoint.

[World Citizen]

14. Very plausible scenario

The really had/have NOTHING to offer that even remotely looks like Presidential/Leader material. McCain was the most generic thing they could come up with, but they were not happy about it. After running him up the flagpole they have found he has too many holes to do any proud waving. Health reasons? Sure, remember all the secrecy around his medical records? What was it? You have 20 minutes to read 2000 pages? Something like that.

So, whoever it is, is their second choice and electorially speaking, they themselves see him as a weaker candidate. To me, this translates into meaning that the desperation level will reach an all time high. We can look forward to an "every-trick-in-the-book" mentality. Surrogates will be popping up faster than lies from limpballs. The level of smears will be unprecedented with race and religion playing a star role.

[Lisa0825]

15. I think he's a sacrificial lamb.

I think the GOP figured they didn't have a chance this time, so they gave McSame the nom, knowing he wouldn't win, and keeping their candidates for 2012 and beyond from being run through a GE campaign (not letting thier dirty laundy get fully aired prior to the next run). I don't think they really care how bad a candidate he is. They have a party to overhaul before they are ready to give it a real fight again.

[asjr]

17. You're right. I also think maybe there will

not even be an election. Martial law may prevail. If ever I saw a straw man, McCain is it.

[JuniperLea]

19. Chertoff has already made noises about a terrorist attack

Claiming how weak our security is... heck of a job there, Cherty.

:eyes:

[harun]

16. If people actually voted for what the candidate is actually about

I would agree. However, they vote for the media representation of what the candidate is about. Especially for Republicans. They will vote for this guy.

[pollo poco]

18. call me crazy, too

But I wonder if they have any intention of allowing us to hold elections at all.

[Ioo]

21. 2 months ago my friends said the Pigs will bait and switch

[Stuart G]

22. I agree with you. and have had this opinion for a couple of months nt

[sandyj999]

23. Watch and See who he chooses as VP.....................n/t

[depakid]

24. It's looking pretty bleak

[Rosa Luxemburg]

25. maybe the GOP will push Jeb up a rung

[AlinPA]

26. It won't matter. Once he starts waving the bible and cross and using a bigger flag,

'murcans will fall in line behind him. Bush** was (and is)a total bumbling idiot and he was selected twice.

[Xolodno]

27. It would be...

a huge, Huge, HUGE, gamble and an act of desperation. They may get someone who could rally their neo-con base and religious nuts, but they would probably lose a lot of McCain supporters and possibly energize Obama's Campaign even more. And I also don't think McCain will go quietly...he thinks he was wronged in 2000 and would gladly return the favor. He's not going to have another shot at this, so even if he knows he's going to lose, at least he's had his shot that was taken from him.

[Spider Jerusalem]

29. Okay, you're crazy.

Who do the Republicans HAVE who would at this point make a credible and more importantly ELECTABLE candidate? The answer to that is no-one. McCain is the best of a bad lot for them because of the false perceptions of him as a moderate and a maverick; he doesn't appeal the the GOP's base of religious nuts, but someone like Mike Huckabee who DOES would alienate moderates and independents; Romney would probably have the same problems with the GOP base that McCain does for different reasons, because of his religion...I don't really see that the GOP have a better candidate waiting in the wings.

[madura]

30. nothing but gut feelings to go by, but i agree.

i don't think i've ever seen a candidate be so half-assed interested as mccain.

i am just worried what the plan is tho. cuz there is a plan

[CK_John]

31. For months I have said Cheney will probably bring in Jindal or J Roberts. n/t

[LiberalFighter]

32. It will open the Republican Party to installing someone that the primary voters did not support.

Which the Democratic Party should then make a big issue. And even more so if the media doesn't emphasize that point since the media did make it an issue regarding Obama and Clinton.