DU PROJECT -- THE GREAT SWIFT BOAT-GOP SEARCH !

[Skinner]

I apologize for ripping this idea off from Junkdrawer. But it's such a great idea that I'm going to see if we can't get this thing organized for real.

Pick a state, Check the state GOP website, then post back in this thread with the following information:

1. Name of state
2. Link to State GOP
3. Does it have any mention of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?
4. If you can, grab a screenshot. If not, someone else can grab the shot for you after you post.

Everyone -- Take a state!

Alabama - nothing

Alaska - nothing

Arizona - nothing
- Maricopa County - link to "Interesting Places" goes to swiftvets

Arkansas - nothing

California - nothing
- Santa Clara - link to swiftvets
- Pasadena - link to swiftvets
- LA County - link to swiftvets TV ad

Colorado - nothing
- Adams County - link to swiftvets

Connecticut - nothing

Delaware - nothing

District of Columbia

Florida - nothing
- Collier County - Soliciting $$ for swiftvets
- Osceola Co - link to Swiftvet ad
- Pinellas Co - Swiftvet ad hosted on website

Georgia - nothing
- Paulding County - link to review of swiftvets book

Hawaii - nothing

Idaho - nothing

Illinois - nothing

Indiana - nothing
- Hendricks County - link to swiftvets

Iowa - nothing
- Jackson Co. - Links to Swifties' Web site.
- Des Moines County. - link to swiftvets website
- Lee County - Dr. Letson's statement on front page

Kansas - nothing

Kentucky - nothing
- Kenton County - link to swiftvets

Louisiana - nothing

Maine - nothing

Maryland - nothing

Massachusetts - Article but no link

Michigan - nothing
- Detroit East Side Republican Club - link to swiftvets

Minnesota - link to swiftboat book in sd42 reading room
- MN 42 - lots of swiftboat info

Mississippi - nothing
- Madison county - selling swiftbook
- Marshall Co - link to "Vietnam Veterans against Kerry"

Missouri - nothing

Montana - nothing

Nebraska - nothing

Nevada - nothing

New Hampshire - nothing
- Cheshire County - link to swiftvets

New Jersey - nothing
- Cape May - link to swiftvets
- Morris County - link to swiftvets and ad

New Mexico - nothing

New York - nothing

North Carolina - nothing
- Warrenn County - link to swiftvets
- Durham County - link to swiftvets
- Guilford County - logo and link
- Nash County - link to swiftvets

North Dakota - nothing

Ohio - nothing
- Tuscarawas - link to swiftvets

Oklahoma - nothing
- OK City - Link to swiftboat story

Oregon - nothing

Pennsylvania - nothing
- Philly GOP - link to swiftvets website

Rhode Island - nothing

South Carolina - nothing

South Dakota - nothing

Tennessee - nothing

Texas - nothing
- El Paso county - link to swiftvets

Utah - nothing

Vermont - nothing

Virginia - nothing

Washington - nothing

West Virginia - nothing

Wisconsin - nothing
- LaCrosse County - link to swiftvets
- Racine County - a banner ad on the right hand side

Wyoming - nothing

Once you've checked the state sites, we can start looking at local

[Skinner]

1. ALABAMA

http://www.algop.org/

No mention of Swift boat veterans on site.

[NMDemDist2]

4. d'uh AZ-- going back to look at counties now

and I have already looked, i also checked Maricopa co. will go check out a few more counties now

http://www.azgop.org/

[Shopaholic]

8. I've checked the South Carolina site already--

couldn't find anything there other than news items.
I also searched the Richland, Greenville, and Aiken County GOP websites in South Carolina and came up with Nada. But I hit pay dirt with Guilford County, NC (it's already been archived by some of the oh-so-fab DU'ers)!!!

On Edit:
Charleston County
Darlington County
Anderson County
Georgetown County
Horry County
Richland County
Aiken County
Greensville County

all clear.

[Junkdrawer]

2. Thanks Skinner - I'm honored, but it was Sparkly who I think started...

the ball rolling.

Way to go Sparkly :thumbsup:

[Sparkly]

115. Aw, thanks!

The blogger find from Florida started me searching for others, though.

[Skinner]

3. ALASKA

http://www.alaskarepublicans.com/

No mention of swiftvets.

[Beetwasher]

5. Nothing in NY

http://nygop.org/index.shtml

[shockingelk]

299. Yes there is

Thursday's Drudge Report quotes a soon-to-be-released book by the man who took over John Kerry's Swift Boat as saying: "Kerry carried a home movie camera to record his exploits for later viewing and reenacted combat scenes for film while in Vietnam revisiting ambush locations for reenacting combat scenes where he would portray the hero, catching it all on film."

What's more, William Shumadine, a member of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, has called the unauthorized use of a photograph with John Kerry and 19 of his swift boat comrades in a campaign ad, "a complete misreprentation to the public and a total fraud. Only two of John Kerry's 23 fellow Swift boat commanders from Costal Division 11 support his candidacy today."

http://nygop.org/nygop_contents/disfunctionaldems/

[LastKnight]

6. will take a look at SD...

cause i know im one of the few from there... wish me luck though...

-LK

[LastKnight]

36. nothing, no surprise... nt

[LastKnight]

90. link if any others wanna check.

http://www.southdakotagop.com/index.htm

damn, those guys hate daschle...

-LK

[democratreformed]

7. Been looking over the Arkansas site

Can't find anything there.

Edit: Sorry, here's the link: http://www.arkansasgop.org/index.asp

[gatorboy]

107. I checked it too.

They haven't even updated the site since June 7th. Such dedication! :P

[PopSixSquish]

9. Georgia

Looking at the site right now.

Will report back in a few.

:bounce:

ON EDIT

Don't see anything on the Georgia GOP site. Nothing on the Fulton County site either

[Longhorn]

10. How do you do a screen capture? Thanks! nt

[rocktivity]

43. How to do Screen Captures:

On a PC, press key F13/Print screen. On a Macintosh, press Command, shift, and 3. Then open in your word or graphics application and paste. Save as a .jpg file and upload to your server.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Longhorn]

56. Thanks!

I was pushing the button but it didn't seem like anything was happening. I didn't know about the "paste" part. :toast:

[TWiley]

308. Hold the "ALT" button down and press "Print Screen" for PC

This copies the screen to the clipboard. Next, open your photo editing software and paste it on the canvas. If you do not have photo editing software but are running windows, then click on "start" "all programs" "accessories" and then "Paint"

You can paste the screen capture there. When you save the file, click on the down arrow for the file type. Choose .jpg and give it a name.

[incapsulated]

11. Sparkly's finds and my captures:

On this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=649189&mesg_id=649189

:hi:

[MuseRider]

12. Been looking around (Kansas)

the Kansas sites but have not found it. I thought I would but nothing so far.

[Cha]

28. That's a magnificent shot of Kansas!

[MuseRider]

126. Don't know if that is Kansas

it is just a picture from the Kerry site. It certainly could be.

[shraby]

44. Does this count, Wisconsin

There is a link to the Swift Boat stuff with Kerry's pic.

<http://www.lcrp.net/> Don't know how to screen capture.

Swiftboat pic with a contribute to the swiftboats at the top on the left
<http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php?topic=SwiftPhoto>

[dweller]

102. screenshot

On a PC, press key F13/Print screen. On a Macintosh, press Command, shift, and 3. Then open in your word or graphics application and paste.
Save as a .jpg file and upload to your server.
or email to Skinner, or someone on DU to post.

dp

[NMDemDist2]

151. got it excellent update Wis Skinner LaCrosse County has link

[Gloria]

13. Don't see anything on the NM GOP site or the Dona Ana Co., NM

site........

[seabeyond]

14. check potter and randall county in texas

only reagan, no swift boats

[Walt Starr]

15. Illinois

http://www.ilgop.org/

This site is clean, and the google cache of it is clean too.

[NightOwwl]

16. Quick question

If there is a mention of the SBLiars book or blog updates on their ad, does that count for something?

[Skinner]

35. I think it's worth mentioning here.

But it's not evidence of coordination. I'm sure there are folks here who know the relevant law. My understanding is that we should be looking for stuff like advertising swiftboat events or soliciting money for them.

[NightOwwl]

17. dupe

[lostnfound]

18. Texas (No Swift Boat reference)

Link: http://www.texasgop.org/

I did a search of the website for 'swift' and 'boat'; nothing came up.
Looks like the site doesn't get updated very often, anyway.

[NMDemDist2]

19. CA next for me

http://www.cagop.org/index.cfm

no SBV there

[Papillon]

20. Washington State

Checked the site, didn't see anything.

http://www.wsrp.org/

[TOhioLiberal]

21. Ohio....

http://www.ohiogop.org/

No swift liar info....

[hlthe2b]

22. Colorado

link is http://www.cologop.org/index.shtml

I saw no link or mention of Swift Boat Veterans--- website doesn't appear overly timely and is very generic in nature. I checked a few locals (e.g., El Paso County GOP-- i.e., Colorado Springs and Douglas County as well--nothing). These appear to be pretty officious sites, limited to basic Colorado and county-specific info with links to Bush-Cheney04 for any national discussion.

[F.Gordon]

232. Adams County Republicans

Adams County Republicans

http://www.adcorepublicans.com/

Featuring a plethora of anti-Kerry Vietnam Sites/Links, including ShitforbrainsBoats.com. All at:

http://www.greenberet.net/Kerry/Index.html

Don't have time to dig everything. A good "google" search that produced a library of good hits is "Michael Benge". Architect of many of the shitboats.com BS lies.

[senseandsensibility]

23. California

Santa Clara County http://www.Santa-clara-gop.org/ Can't save a screen shot!

[Walt Starr]

32. BINGO!!!! GREAT FIND!!!!

Definite link.

[NMDemDist2]

46. i got a screen shot eom

[WillyT]

98. Good Thing You Got That Shot, Cause I Just Tried To Get On...

their site and could not. Think maybe they're taking it off???

:shrug:

[incapsulated]

110. Already posted capture

Here:

[SaveElmer]

160. Looks Like Pasadena had a link

But it is no longer there...still comes up on a Yahoo search though

Pasadena Republican Club 626-793-2018
Pasadena Republican Club - funds and operates the Republican Headquarters in California's 44th Assembly District ... Link to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ...
www.pasadenarepublican.org/?i=6TW21FU3EXF59LQHK0D94G2JBL188DJB - 10k - Cached - More pages from this site

[Guaranteed]

256. It looks like that site is down, now. nt

[Ohio Dem]

24. I can't find anything on Ohio's site.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=site%3Awww.ohiogop.org+swift+boat

And, I went there and looked around. No ads or anything that I could find.

[rocktivity]

25. Nothing in New Jersey

http://www.njgop.org/

:headbang:
rocknation

[Philostopher]

26. Okay, the Ohio GOP official website

appears to be clean, at least on a Google search by site:


http://www.ohiogop.org

I'd have done a screenshot, but since there's no incriminating evidence for the Ohio GOP site, I didn't. In fact, I didn't even 'go there' -- it's tough enough just living in Ohio, let alone reading 'their' web site!

But there wasn't any indication they had any links, positive or negative, to the Swift Boat Liars. In fact, their intro page requires a sign-up and they can just bite me if they think I'm signing up to beat myself over the head with a tire iron.

[Kukesa]

261. Good job, NN -- you beat me to it! n/t

[unblock]

27. california: bingo!

http://www.gopusa.com/california/candidates.shtml

many links to swift boat liars

[Cha]

30. Bad repugs in California!

[NMDemDist2]

34. not the official party site

is a site for profit so it's no foul

[incapsulated]

61. Ah, nevermind... *eom*

[incapsulated]

55. I've captured it

Will post it shortly...

[TOhioLiberal]

29. vermont:

http://www.vermontgop.org/

no swift boat info

[PA Democrat]

31. Philly GOP website has a link to the Swift Boat Veterans website

http://www.phillygop.com/

[Toucano]

45. I checked Pennsylvania

pagop.org is clean

[SayitAintSo]

49. Good find ... that music is obnoxious .... !!!! LOL n/t

[incapsulated]

73. Capture here:

[VirginiaDem]

33. Virginia--nothing

http://www.rpv.org/

Also checked through many of the local organization links and came up empty.

[AwakeAtLast]

Indiana

Nothing that I could find.

http://www.indgop.org/facts_forms.php

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[havocmom]

38. Checking Montana. So far nada con Swift Boat Liars

will try some more sites.

By the way, talk here in Tiny Town Montana is "Bush is toast".

[ibegurpard]

60. I can confirm that

Checked all the links to county sites from state GOP site as well. Wasn't able to find anything.

[havocmom]

105. Amused that State GOP site has links to Hannity & Free Republic

Is that standard for most state GOP sites?

Edited to add:
Hey, and the link to Congressman Rehberg is dead. Guess he got tired of hearing from the folks at home :shrug:

[NWHarkness]

39. Michigan

I've been digging through the state and county sites and haven't found anything.

Some of these county party sites haven't been updated in months. Pathetic.

[SaveElmer]

169. Detroit - East Side Republican Club

Direct Link

http://www.eastside-republican-club.org/

[Sporadicus]

40. Nothing in Kentucky

but I discovered that the KY GOP has one butt-ugly website.

[finecraft]

41. Louisiana - Nothing

website: http://www.lagop.com/

Their website sucks, by the way. Now excuse me while I go shower.

[sub.theory]

238. Hmmm....take a second look

Does anyone else see where it says: "IMPORTANT: Click Here to see a 1 min video of what those that served with John Kerry really think of his Vietnam service."

That link leads to a site shilling the unfit for command book.

http://www.lagop.org/

(also note, I don't think this is Louisiana, this is the Los Angeles County GOP site)

[VirginiaDem]

42. Wyoming nada

http://www.wygop.org/

I figured those fanatics would throw caution to the wind...

[madmax]

47. NJ --- Nothing

http://www.njgop.org/

[zuzu98]

48. Missouri -- nothing

www.mogop.org

[incapsulated]

50. CA: Santa Clara, NC: Warrenn County, Cape May...(captures)

From Sparkly's thread, my captures, too:

http://www.capegop.org



http://www.warrenncgop.com/?page=links



http://www.santa-clara-gop.org



Also, not official, but:

http://www.guilfordgopnews.com/

[Zynx]

51. My guess is that they weren't dumb enough to put it on the state sites.

[kentuck]

57. If they put them on their County sites....

Does that make any difference?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

52. Minnesota Senate District 51 GOP web site has stuff.

They talk about the Swift Boat vets at length and wail about "the liberal media." How do you do a screen capture? I saved the page but I don't know what to do with it.

http://www.sd51-gop.org/

On edit: Can't capture -- can someone else do it? Thanks!

[VirginiaDem]

69. I've got a screenshot of sorts

You click ALT and Printscreen at the same time. Print screen should be somewhere near the top of your keyboard on the right. On my laptop keyboard it's on the top row, to the right of the function keys and abbreviated PrtSc. Then you copy and paste into a doc. I've got a screenshot in wordpad format (cuz I ain't got Word, long story). The shot includes the website address in the address bar and the relevant text. Couldn't get everything cuz the homepage is too long.

Who wants it?

[dflprincess]

119. Nothing on the main Minnesota GOP site

http://www.gop-mn.org/

They do have a link to FreeRepublic. Nothing but attacks on their home page. They also require a userid and password for something.

I've never been to their site before... I feel dirty.

[Dickie Flatt]

278. lgf too

Note also the charming link to Little Green Footballs.

[Auntie Bush]

53. Checked out Vermont...couldn't find anything. I'll bet all the State

Republican sites have already been told to scrub all/any information regarding Swift Boats.

[VirginiaDem]

54. North Dakota cold and barren

http://www.ndgop.com/
nothing there

[Shopaholic]

58. and another

http://www.kcrp.org/links.

this is just a link but it's from the official Kenton County KY website: at www.kcrp.org

[incapsulated]

203. It's gone already

I'll do a cache search.

[PopSixSquish]

59. OK - Found on the Paulding County Georgia GOP Site

Link to Washington Times article on the book "Unfit for Command"

Don't know if that's what you're looking for, but can somebody get a screen shot

http://www.pauldingrepublicans.org/

[vetwife]

307. Can someone capture screenshot..posted the link..Racine Co. Ga.

Posted the link but they got the swift boat liars ads moving..can't get that to capture ! Can someone try..please?

[NEDem]

62. Nebraska - Nothing

www.negop.org

[Sydnie]

63. Link on this site to all state gop pages

http://www.nhgop.org/links.html

[The Great Escape]

64. West Virginia....Nothing....

http://www.wvgop.org/

[Longhorn]

65. Utah -- Nothing but

an extremly boring site!

[Lex]

66. Durham County NC - GOP site has the swiftboat link on front page!

Check it out--

http://www.durhamgop.org/

Front page, front and center, a link to swiftboat liars site to see their lying ass ad.

PS--can someone get a screen grab?

[LowerManhattanite]

77. Nabbed it!

Goddamn! This is more fun than an Easter Egg hunt! :)

[incapsulated]

81. Isn't it?

Heheh. :)

[incapsulated]

78. Got it

Will post...

[VirginiaDem]

85. got one in wordpad format

it's in rich text format.

[incapsulated]

88. Here is the capture:

[berry]

67. Connecticut

ctgop.org

nothing.

I think the gop in ct has crumbled a bit. Their last newsletter was in Jan (about when the ctgop agreed to investigate Rowland). I was a little suspicious when the ctyoungrepublicans.org link came up with a "site not found' message. But given the rest of the site, maybe it wasn't down because of a frantic desire to pull something.

Our best bet may be to see what the speaking tour for the Swift Boat creeps is and look in those states.... Also in the swing states where they've been airing the ads?

[Skinner]

83. I think that's probaby a good idea

Does anyone have a schedule of events for the swift liars?

[berry]

167. No schedule at swiftvets.com

But you can read the whole book online. :puke:

I'll go google to see if there are other sites.

[berry]

235. swiftvets SCHEDULE (July 24 to Aug 30)--this is amazing!!!

I cannot believe that these creeps could put together a schedule like this, papering the whole country on the local outlets, without the coordination of a VERY sophisticated organization with an excellent network of contacts. Or, have they spent a lot of money on a PR firm? Oh yeah--there's that Merrie person. Does she get to look at the GOP rolodex? This looks like full saturation (I guess I'm naive, only knowing the few t.v. channels I have access to.)

N.B.--I found this by googling, but when I went to the main site earlier, I saw no way to get here. (But I'm not all that web-savvy.)


http://www.swiftvets.com/staticpages/index.php?page=Interviews
Schedule of Swift Veteran Appearances

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Additional events and details will be added as they become available. All times listed are Eastern Daylight Time.Check here for previous interviews.

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Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:00 am: Steve Gardner will appear on WPEP (talk radio, Massachusetts).
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Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:40 am: Andy Horne will appear with Steve Malzberg (talk radio, New York).7:00 pm: Bob Elder will appear on Beyond the Beltway (talk radio, www.beyondthebeltway.com).
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Monday, August 23, 2004 9:00 am: SwiftVets.com webmaster Scott Swett will appear with Melanie Morgan on KSFO (talk radio, San Francisco).11:00 am: Steve Gardner will appear on the Eric Hogue Show (talk radio, Sacramento).10:30 pm: Bob Elder will appear on the Jerry Doyle Show (talk radio, national).
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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:00 pm: Larry Thurlow will appear with Dennis Crump on WGNU (talk radio, St. Louis).6:05 pm: Larry Thurlow will appear on KLIF (talk radio, Dallas).7:00 pm: Steve Gardner will appear on the Larry Elder Show (ABC talk radio, national).
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Wednesday, August 25, 2004 11:05 am: Van Odell will appear on True North on WDEV 550AM / 96.1 FM (talk radio).
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Monday, August 30, 2004 10:05 am: Larry Thurlow and Van Odell will appear with Dick Knutson on KFGO (talk radio, Fargo, North Dakota).

Previous Swift Veteran Appearances

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SUMMARY OF INTERVIEWS WEEK OF JULY 24 RADIO – NATIONAL / SYNDICATED
Laura Ingraham – (Bob Elder)
Michael Reagan Show – (Bob Elder)
Janet Parshall’s America - (Wey Symmes)
Michael Savage Show – (Steve Gardner)
NPR - (Van Odell)
BBC - (Van Odell)
Westwood One- Lars Larson Show Infinity Broadcasting (Van Odell)
Westwood One – Jim Bohannan Show Infinity Broadcasting (Van Odell)
Information Radio Network - John Russell Show - (Bob Elder)
Judicial Watch (3 – Larry Thurlow, Steve Gardner, Admiral Hoffmann)
Neal Boortz Show - Van Odell
Linda Chavez - Liberty Broadcasting - (Bob Elder)
Jerry Doyle Show - Talk Radio Network - (Bob Elder)
Newsbeat with Blanquita Cullum - top 100 host - Radio America Cable Radio Network - (Andy Horne)
Michael Medved Show - (Steve Gardner)In addition, Rush Limbaugh talked extensively about the Swiftees on two days. REGIONAL
Paul Schiffer Show - (4 times - 5 states: Ohio, PA, MD, West VA, VA and Western NY – Larry Thurlow, Grant Hibbard, Admiral Hoffmann, Steve Gardner)
Charlie Jones Show - (TX, Kansas, OK, LA, - Larry Thurlow)
Colonel Pate - News Radio Fox (2 - South E. Texas and South E. Louisiana - (Van Odell, Andy Horne)
Russ and Dee Fine Show – (Alabama, syndicated in a dozen Southeast stations and simulcast on CBS 5 - Steve Gardner, Larry Thurlow, Joe Ponder, Bob Elder, Admiral Hoffman)
Steve Malzberg - WABC - reaches 38 states and parts of Canada - (Van Odell)LOCAL
Kevin McCullough Show - WMCA & WWDJ New York - (Joe Ponder)
WBLK - Lexington Kentucky - (Steve Gardner)
Eric Hogue - KTKZ - Sacramento - (Steve Gardner)
Scott Hennen “Hot Talk” - WDAY Fargo - (Van Odell)
Michael Smerconish - Philadelphia - (Larry Thurlow)
The John Pendelton Show - WJGR Jacksonville, Florida - (Wey Symmes)
KLIF - Greg Knapp Show - (Van Odell)
KTSA - San Antonio - (Admiral Hoffman)
Guetzloe Report - Central Florida - (Wey Symmes)
WJET - Erie, PA – (Dr. Letson)
WRKO - Boston, Massachusetts – (Van Odell)
Peter Blute - WRKO - (Bob Elder)
KCNN/WDAY - No. Dakota – (Van Odell)
WTN- Bill Valentine Show - Nashville – (Van Odell)
KSFO - SF – (Bob Elder) (This is in the nation’s top 50 stations.)
KDKA - Pittsburgh – (Bob Elder)
Florida Talks with Lynn Breidenbach - multiple markets – Admiral Hoffmann)
WTKF – No. Carolina – (Steve Gardner)
Miami Talks (Joe Ponder)
WINA - VA – (Admiral Hoffmann)
WBA - Madison, WI – (Bob Elder)
The Jerry Agar Show - WPTF North Carolina - (Van Odell, Steve Gardner)
Mike Fleming Show - Top talk show in Tennessee - (Bob Elder)
John Bradshaw Show – (Steve Gardner)TELEVISION
Fox News - Channel 26 - Houston, from Boston – (Van Odell)
WBAP – Channel 39 - Houston – (Andy Horne)
KRRK - Channel 13 (ABC affiliate, number one rated – Houston – (Andy Horne)PRINT
Hearst News - Eric Rosenberg - (multiple people)
Gannett News Service - George Clark - (multiple people)
UPI – Rick ? - (multiple people)
The Dallas Observer - John Gonzales - (multiple people)(In addition, The VA Pilot covered Swiftees at the Norfolk Kerry Campaign event, thanks to Charlie Plumly.)
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Monday, August 2, 2004 4:20 pm: Former Kerry crew member Steve Gardner will be on NRA news.5:00 pm: Steve Gardner will be on KHNC with Alan Stang (talk radio).6:30 pm: Steve Gardner will be on The Jerry Doyle Show (talk radio).6:35 pm: Admiral Hoffmann will be on KLIF in Dallas (talk radio).
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Tuesday, August 3, 2004 8:00 am: Andy Horner will be on KFAQ with Nils Anderson (talk radio).8:05 pm: Admiral Hoffmann will be on The Roger Hedgecock Show (KOGO, talk radio). Listen online.
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Wednesday, August 4, 2004 10:06 am: Joe Ponder will appear on The Right Balance with Greg Allen (Internet radio, via AccentRadioNetwork.com and TheRightBalance.org).10:30 am: Dr. Louis Letson will be on the Neil Boortz Show (talk radio, national).
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Thursday, August 5, 2004 9:00 am: Charley Plumley will be on the Jimmy Ray Show (talk radio,Dr. Louis Letson will be on the Neil Boortz Show (talk radio, WGH, Virginia).9:30 am: Admiral Hoffmann will be on the Tony Snow Show (talk radio, Fox News, national).10:20 am: Bob Elder will be on KSFO (talk radio, national, out of San Francisco).10:20 am: Former Kerry crew member Steve Gardner will be on the Dave Elswick Show (talk radio, KARN, Arkansas).10:30 am: Dr. Louis Letson will be on the Neil Boortz Show (talk radio, national).11:00 am: Bob Elder will be on Battleline with Allen Nathan (talk radio, national).11:05 am: Joe Ponder will be on the Eric Hogue Show (talk radio, Sacramento).12:30 pm: Wey Symmes will be interviewed by Mark Furman (talk radio, KGA, Spokane).1:15 pm: Larry Thurlow will be on the John Gormley Live show (talk radio, Canada).2:00 pm: Bob Elder will be on the Bill Handel Show (talk radio, Clear Channel Radio Network).3:00 pm: Van Odell will be on the Michael Medved Show (talk radio, national, out of Seattle).9:00 pm: Van Odell and Jack Chenowith will be on Hannity and Colmes (Fox News cable TV, national).
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Sunday, August 8, 2004 3:00 pm: Wey Symmes will be on The Judicial Rabbi of the Right with Adam Bernay (talk radio).
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Monday, August 9, 2004 7:40 am: Former Kerry crew member Steve Gardner will appear on WOR radio in New York.8:40 pm: Steve Gardner will appear on the Kevin Miller Show (talk radio, WPTF).11:00 am: Steve Gardner will appear on Battle Line with Alan Nathan (talk radio, national).8:00 pm: Steve Gardner will appear on the Bill O'Reilly Show (Fox News cable TV, national).9:00 pm: John O'Neill will appear on the Hannity & Colmes (Fox News cable TV, national).
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Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:00 am: Steve Gardner will appear on WKRO (talk radio, Boston).6:00 pm: Van O'Dell will appear with W.L. Pate (Fox Radio News, Southeast Texas, Louisiana).7:00 pm: Van O'Dell will appear with Dan Tencer on Netwaves (talk radio, Western Canada).
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Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:00 am: Larry Thurlow will appear on Radi Caracol Internacional (aired in 10 Spanish-speaking countries in Latin America, and also in Florida).7:00 am: Grant Hibbard will appear on WKY (talk radio, Oklahoma).8:05 am: Steve Gardner will appear on the Brad Crantz Show (talk radio, Burlington, NC).9:05 am: Steve Gardner will appear on News Radio KEX (talk radio).10:05 am: Bob Elder will appear on the Mike Gallagher Show (talk radio, national).11:00 am: Wey Symmes will appear on the HighStream Network (talk radio, Arizona).3:00 pm: Wey Symmes will appear on KFNX with Jeff Farias (talk radio, Arizona).4:00 pm: Steve Gardner will appear with Dori Monson on KIRO (talk radio, Seattle).5:00 pm: Bob Elder will appear with Denny Schaffer on WSPD (talk radio, Ohio).5:10 pm: John O'Neill will appear with Wolf Blitzer on CNN (TV cable news, national).7:30 pm: John O'Neill will appear on the Michael Savage Show (talk radio, national).8:05 pm: John O'Neill will appear on the Larry Elder Show (talk radio, national).10:30 pm: John O'Neill will appear on the Jerry Doyle Show (talk radio, national).11:15 pm: John O'Neill will appear on the Alan Colmes Show (talk radio, national).
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Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:00 am: Wey Symmes will appear KIRO with Mike Webb (talk radio, Seattle).10:00 am: Van O'Dell will appear on News and Views with guest host Dick Knutson (talk radio, Clearchannel, Midwest region).10:10 am: Admiral Hoffmann will appear on Daybreak with Larry George (talk radio KUIK 1360, Portland, Oregon).10:35 am: Steve Gardner will appear on KCMX (talk radio, Oregon).10:35 am: Admiral Hoffmann will appear with Charlie Sykes on WTMJ (talk radio, Milwaukee).3:30 pm: Steve Gardner will appear with Denny Schaffer on WSPD (talk radio, Ohio).4:10 pm: Steve Gardner will appear with Vicki McKenna on WBA (talk radio, Wisconsin).after 5:00 pm: Steve Gardner will appear on The Conservative Watchdog (talk radio).
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Friday, August 13, 2004 7:30 am: Steve Gardner will appear with Allman & Smash on KFTK 97 FM (talk radio, St. Louis, Missouri).8:45 am: Joe Ponder will appear on WABC (talk radio, Detroit).10:05 am: Joe Ponder will appear with Charlie Sykes on WTMJ (talk radio, Milwaukee).11:06 am: Steve Gardner will appear with Dan Rivers on WKBN (Clearchannel talk radio, Youngstown, Ohio).3:00 pm: Bob Elder will appear on KSFO with Brian Sussman (talk radio, San Francisco).4:35 pm: Steve Gardner will appear on Out West with Fred Imus and Nicole Cox (talk radio, KJLL, Tucson).5:10 pm: Steve Gardner will appear on Williams & Whisman (Radio America talk radio, WJBC, Illinois).
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Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:30 am: Bob Elder will speak with the Taxpayer League of Minnesota (www.taxpayerleague.org).
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Monday, August 16, 2004 9:00 am: Steve Gardner will appear with guest host Denny Schaffer on the Glenn Beck Program (talk radio, national).
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Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:30 am: Andy Horne will appear on the Linda Chavez Show with guest host Steve Malzberg (talk radio, national).4:15 pm: Dr. Louis Letson will appear with Jane Chastain of Judicial Watch (talk radio).5:00 pm: Jim Thomas will appear on the Dori Monson Show on KIRO (talk radio, Seattle).5:15 pm: Larry Thurlow will appear on KLIF (talk radio, Dallas).10:10 pm: Steve Gardner will appear with Crane Durham on KTRS 550 (talk radio).N/T: Jack Chenowith will appear on "All Things Considered" (National Public Radio).
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Friday, August 20, 2004 10:00 am: Andy Horne will appear on the Tony Snow Show (talk radio, national).12:30 pm: Jim Thomas will appear with Scott Hennen on WDAY (talk radio).2:30 pm: Steve Gardner will appear on the Tammy Bruce Show (Talk Radio Network, national).4:08 pm: Steve Gardner will appear with Fred Honsberger on KDKA (talk radio, Pittsburgh).5:45 pm: Larry Thurlow will appear on KLIF (talk radio, Dallas).9:30 pm: Bob Elder will appear with Brian Sussmann on KSFO (talk radio, San Francisco).12:00 midnight: Steve Gardner will appear on The Jerry Doyle Show (talk radio, national).
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Last Updated Saturday, August 21 2004 @ 09:17 AM PDT

[SoCalDem]

298. Too bad that the MEDIA IS LIBERAL, eh??

What a crock of shit these freaks are..

They are relentless and shameless.. I hope this bites them on the ASS BIGTIME...

I have bookmarked this post so I can reply to people when they complain about how "haarrrrrd it is for conservatives to get their message out":puke:

Is there any way to check for "legal troubles" on some of these guys??

At their ages, there could well be some stuff to unearth about THEM..:grr:

[DaveinMD]

68. Maryland-

nothing on the Maryland GOP site.

[Maddy McCall]

70. Mississippi - nothing

http://www.msgop.org/

[Maddy McCall]

142. Marshall Co. Republicans - link to "Vietnam Veterans against Kerry"

...which has a link to the swiftliars' video:

Marshall Co Republicans : http://www.expage.com/victoryinmississippi

[Maddy McCall]

147. Madison Co. GOP - link to "Unfit for Command" O'Neill Book

www.madisongop.org

[NMDemDist2]

71. nothing in Idaho

[LastKnight]

72. would it be out of line to check individual canadate's websites?

it might be alot of work but if we had people check thier state's canadates sites we might find something, then again, we might not. its unlikley to find things in thinking, but these guys are big GOP donors... so there might be a tie in here and there... in a few states where these guys live... who knows? just an idea. i know its an unreasonably large undertaking.

-LK

[OilemFirchen]

74. Guilford County, NC

http://www.guilfordgopnews.com/

Logo and link.

[OilemFirchen]

144. ... as in BUSTED! Can someone do a capture?

Purty please?

I'd do it, but my host is my business site.

[incapsulated]

153. Already did

Posted on this thread! :hi:

[OilemFirchen]

Gracias! (n/t)

[Junkdrawer]

168. Unfortunately, not an official GOP site (check the page footer)...

:(

[NightOwwl]

75. I'll do Oregon n/t

[NightOwwl]

118. Nothng :(

[ezee]

76. Washington State//sorry didnt see early post

www.wsrp.org
no mention of swift boats

[Junkdrawer]

79. HOW TO SEARCH THE GOOGLE CACHE OF A PAGE:

Once you find a promising page, do a Google search of the page itself, eg: put www.pagop.org in the Google search box and hit search.

you will get a return of 1 hit and the option to Show Google Cache of the page.

Note: If you want to see the cache of a related page, you need to Google search THAT page (for example www.pagop.org/calendar.asp) and then look at the Google Cache.

[Lex]

80. Nothing on NC GOP's official state site for the swift smearers

that I can see. Nothing on the front page or on any of the links that I clicked.

[KoKo]

288. I checked, also. Clear. Nothing in Wake County (capitol) site linking

to Swift Boaters, either.

[Catch22Dem]

82. Oklahoma

http://www.okgop.com

Looks clean to me, but look at this balding 21 year old repuke running for state rep. Sez he's been interested in politics ever since wearing a Dole/Kemp button to school every day in the EIGHTH GRADE!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
http://www.backfroston.com/

[Maddy McCall]

84. Florida - nothing

www.rpof.org

[Maddy McCall]

201. Collier Co. Switvet book review - "must read"

http://www.colliergop.org/

[SidDithers]

228. Collier County had more...

They had an actual fundraising appeal for the Swift Vets, and a link to their newest ad. Skinner got a screen grab. I checked a little while later, and both the fundraising ask and ad link were gone.

See post #177 in this thread for screen caps.

Sid

[incapsulated]

233. Collier Capture:

[Maddy McCall]

206. Osceola Co. Republicans - link to Swiftvet ad

http://www.osceolarepublicans.org/

Can someone get a screen shot for me?

[incapsulated]

240. Capture on post #216 n/t

[Maddy McCall]

213. Pinellas Co. - Swiftvet ad is HOSTED ON THEIR SITE!!

http://www.pcrecfl.com/kerry_lies.htm

Someone PLEASE get a screenshot of this!

[Misunderestimator]

263. The video of the ad is indeed hosted there (screen capture inside):

http://www.pcrecfl.com/anyquestions.wmv

I cannot get a screen print of it with the video playing, but on the homepage the link to it does mention the Swift Boat ad (towards the bottom, "Kerry's Lies Documented View the Swift Boat Vets Ad that DNC Lawyers Work to Muzzle, here on this website":

[sub.theory]

86. Another One Here (Wayne County, NC)

Here's another one...see the right side.
http://www.waynegop.com/

[incapsulated]

94. Got it

Will post...

[incapsulated]

103. Capture here:

[SayitAintSo]

135. Good find ! Welcome to DU !!! n/t

[Rowdyboy]

87. Spent about 25 minutes of RNC site in Mississippi (save yourself the time)

and then googled Mississippi and swift boas in every conceivable combination. Didn't find a link, but it could easily have been cleaned up.

[quaoar]

89. South Dakota -- nothing

[NMDemDist2]

91. Nevada nothing

[SayitAintSo]

92. Is there anyway to "back link" from the Swift Boat Vet site...

to capture the sites that link to it ? There are so many county sites out there - hard to get to them all ... Ideas ?


on edit ... spelling

[Skinner]

As a matter of fact, there is...

http://www.google.com/search?as_lq=www.swiftvets.com

[PopSixSquish]

123. HEY SKINNER - This is Hilarious

So I'm looking through the backlinks list and come up with this site.

http://www.3ri.com/videos/Georgia/default.htm

It's a site dedicated to railroads and their "current favorite link" is Swift Boat Veterans.

Off topic - but you find the strangest things on the internet

[Skinner]

93. Self-deleted

x

[Rowdyboy]

97. Wait, wait , wait....

I checked my county website (Madison county, Mississippi GOP)...

Guess what...For Sale...

http://madisongop.org/

I don't know if it's legal for the Repubs to peddle the Swift boat liars book or not, but it is certainly suspect.

[shraby]

114. Wisconsin done

I posted a couple of links to swiftboat stuff up the line a ways. Don't know how to put the pages here. It's the LaCrosse co. site.

post #44

[petersjo]

141. Iowa

Page is pretty plain vanilla--nothing about Swift Boat Liars. In fact, it appears that the site hasn't been updated since sometime in June. I'll check some country sites later.

jp

Edited to add the following:

http://www.jacksongogop.com/ This is a link for Jackson Co. GOP main page. Links to news stories and to Swifties' Web site.

http://www.dmcgop.com/links.shtm Address for Des Moines County GOP Web site that in turns links to "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth."

That's about it for Iowa.

[hlthe2b]

95. Someone needs to do: Cobb, County, GA GOP!! (Newt's Old District)

I can;t get it to load--nor the cache right now! They must be scrubbing away!

www.cobbgop.org

[Junkdrawer]

116. OH, BUT THE CACHE IS JUICY....

216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:9rEu2vh6CVMJ:www.cobbgop.org/+&hl=en&start=1&lr=lang_en

(cut and paste to see)

See instructions on post #79 for how to do this....

[hlthe2b]

127. I see several links/mentions from their cache of first page: CobbGOP.org

If anyone can capture further...

[Junkdrawer]

137. It will be interesting to see what comes up tomorrow...

Bet it's scrubbed.

[SayitAintSo]

129. I tried - couldn't get it ... did get Fulton county - Nothing

[incapsulated]

136. I got most of it!

From the Yahoo cache, hehe. :hi:

[incapsulated]

143. Here's a capture:

[Maddy McCall]

96. Maine - Nothing

[maine_raptor]

131. And Nothing in the links off

www.mainegop.org

I checked the different county gop sites also

[NMDemDist2]

99. Oregon nothing

[SayitAintSo]

100. Tennessee - nothing

[NMDemDist2]

101. Wisconsin nothing

http://www.wisgop.org/?lg=

[quaoar]

104. FOUND ONE

This site is hawking the Swift Boat book:

http://madisongop.org/

[LastKnight]

106. should we look for the book too? nt

[quaoar]

109. But I can't do a screen shot. Can someone else get it?

[incapsulated]

117. Got it

Will post...

[incapsulated]

125. Capture here:

[NMDemDist2]

159. got it

[NMDemDist2]

108. Iowa Nothing

http://www.iowagop.org/main.shtml

[LastKnight]

113. confirmed, nt

[petersjo]

180. See post 141 above for two Iowa county sites

N/T

[SaveElmer]

155. Lee County

Prints Dr. Letson's statement verbatim on it's front page

[NMDemDist2]

172. link please?

[SaveElmer]

185. Sorry

http://www.leecountyrepublicans.org/pages/notable-quotables.htm

[NMDemDist2]

200. what a horrid site that is and i'm not sure quoting them is any big deal

heck they quoted DU there too LOL

[SaveElmer]

173. Des Moines COunty GOP

Has an antire page devoted to it with link

http://www.dmcgop.com/news/pr0_0728_10.shtm

[Maddy McCall]

111. Hawaii - nothing

www.gophawaii.com

[NMDemDist2]

112. Delaware nothing

http://www.delawaregop.com/

[molly]

269. Yes, but 2 of the swift boat liars are from Delaware

the article is archived by the newspaper but I'll search DU's archive...
August 7, 2004 •• 827 words
Controversial spot disputes his Vietnam service record 2004 ELECTION By SEAN O'SULLIVAN Staff reporter Two Delaware Vietnam veterans appear in a controversial TV ad questioning the war record of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry and his ability to serve as commander-in-chief. Robert G. Elder, the former president of Christiana Bank & Trust Co. in Greenville, and George Elliott , a former president of the Lewes Historical Society, speak in the 60-second spot.....

[Ohio Dem]

120. Cuyahoga County Ohio GOP has a link to a story about it.

Here's the story: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=washpost/a21239_2004aug21

Here's the County GOP link: http://www.cuyahogacountygop.com/

Some other DU'er posted this a while back, but I couldn't find that post.

[Sparkly]

121. Mississippi

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x649850

[TheDonkey]

122. I've got Pennsylvania here! Can't seem to search archive?

1. Name of state: Pennsylvania
2. Link to State GOP: http://www.pagop.org
3. Does it have any mention of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?

I can't seem to be able to do a website search!?
Can someone please tryto quickly scan PA's website and find my error. Sorry, I'll keep looking.

[Junkdrawer]

I've looked the site and cache carefully - it's clean as far as I see.

[TheDonkey]

138. Thanks, sadly I think the thugs have already begun to scrub like mad

[Junkdrawer]

163. No question

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=649116&mesg_id=649912&page=

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

124. Minnesota Senate District 42

Lots of really vicious Swift Boat stuff, though they don't link directly to their web site. WTF is wrong with these people?

http://www.mngop.com/sd42/archives.html

[shraby]

146. incapsulated would you pick

up post #44? Got 2 for LaCross Wisconsin links posted there.

[incapsulated]

158. Yes, I got them both

:)

[incapsulated]

190. LaCrosse Capture post #175 *eom*

[SaveElmer]

148. According to this they do

Screen capture

http://djfiles.home.comcast.net/mngopswift/sd42direct.htm

[shockingelk]

300. swcreenshot of link to unfit for command

#1 on their "recommended reading" list:

[Catch22Dem]

128. Oklahoma County - (Oklahoma City)

Link to swiftboat story. http://www.okcountygop.com/km/Container.aspx?tabindex=4&tabid=248

[texas_teacher]

130. I was working on Wisconsin and found the following

Nothing on the state site.

LaCrosse County http://www.lcrp.net/ has a link to swift boat vets.

Racine County http://www.racinegop.org/ has a banner ad on the right hand side.

That's all I've found so far. I don't know if y'all are looking for county links or not.

MP

[NMDemDist2]

145. absolutely !! you found two more! great job! did you get a screen shot?

[incapsulated]

150. Got them both!

Will post captures...

[incapsulated]

175. LaCrosse and Racine Captures Here:

[jsw_81]

132. El Paso county, Texas

The El Paso county, Texas GOP page has a link to the Swift Boat group (and surprisingly enough they have a chairman named Michael Moore).

[seabeyond]

181. dupe

see below

[jsw_81]

247. I found it first

So his is the "dupe."

[seabeyond]

281. bah ha hah a

you are so right. my only concern was just cause you put the name only if anyone was going to find your great find.

i have family adn friends in el paso so caught my attention. thought it the funniest your find and micheal moore. lol lol

[rocktivity]

133. Rhode Island got overlooked, I see

nothing at http://www.rigop.org

:headbang:
rocknation.tv

[Lex]

134. So, the state sites keep themselves clean & let the counties roll in it.

Looks like the pattern is that the official state sites pretty much keep their noses clean, while many of the official county sites are up to their eyeballs in swiftboat smearers.

Having the official county GOP sites hawk the 527 organization's crap should be just as illegal, however. (I don't know how the exact law on this stands, though.)

[SayitAintSo]

139. I'm wondering about that too. I think it should still be very problematic

The linkages are very clear - it also looks very systemic.

[Junkdrawer]

149. They are scrubbing like mad....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=649116&mesg_id=649912&page=

[NMDemDist2]

140. Maricopa County Arizona, Dist 18 (Mesa) links but not stated ??

http://www.mesa18.com/

if you click the link on the home page "Interesting Places" takes you straight to the SBV site

[Kimber Scott]

157. Aren't they slick? Link to Some Interesting Places.

It's one place. Swiftboat Vets. Hmmm. Who're they trying to fool?

[LastKnight]

165. maybe float your cursor so on it shows destination and then cap?

any ideas?

-LK

[NMDemDist2]

171. i save the HTML code to a wordpad doc

[LastKnight]

176. do you need to show the address bar?

i know some others were concearned about this... but do we need to? likley not, but the html code wont do it anyway... so...

-LK

[incapsulated]

183. I will capture the toolbar link!

Damnit! Will post...

[incapsulated]

189. Capture with cursor and toolbar!

HA!

[Catshrink]

186. I have that one....

cap'd that and right clcked the link --> properties. Both show the link to the swiftvets.com.

What should I do with it, email it to Skinner?

[Snazzy]

286. AZ uses exact same web community software/template as Swiftgoats

Just wrote this up here (and somebody kicked this whole effort, thanks):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=653457&mesg_id=653457

[TheDonkey]

152. Philadelphia GOP has link to Smearboat, can't take a capture!!! (help)

Don't know how. Can someone capture this. It's on their main page.

http://www.phillygop.com/

[TheDonkey]

156. Looks like the philly thugs are hosting a movie, or at least shielding it

Direct video to the smearboats on main page

[incapsulated]

162. Got it...

Posted upthread #73. :hi:

[sub.theory]

154. Hendricks County IN

See the right side. Text link.

http://www.hendricksgop.com/

[LastKnight]

161. anyone grab it? nt

[SaveElmer]

I have a screen shot

[incapsulated]

223. Here is a capture:

[Kipepeo]

164. New Hampshire & Rhode Island: Nothing

http://www.nhgop.org/

http://www.rigop.org/

[JohnLocke]

166. COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY WEBSITES

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Republican+Party%22+%22county%22+%22swift+boat+veterans%22
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Republican+Party%22+%22county%22+%22swift+vets%22
----
Santa Clara County, California - Gigantic logo/link on homepage
http://www.santa-clara-gop.org/
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:KTbYRRhOhwgJ:www.santa-clara-gop.org/+%22Republican+Party%22+%22county%22+%22swift+boat+veterans%22&hl=en
----
Cape May County, New Jersey - Complete text of ad and link on homepage.
http://www.capegop.org/
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:Y8UDaNr2YYwJ:www.capegop.org/+%22Republican+Party%22+%22county%22+%22swift+boat+veterans%22&hl=en
----
El Paso County, Texas - link
http://www.elpasogop.org/links/links.html
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:-mrB2c1XwCsJ:www.elpasogop.org/links/links.html+%22Republican+Party%22+%22county%22+%22swift+boat+veterans%22&hl=en

[NMDemDist2]

193. did you get screen shots of them all? n/t

[NMDemDist2]

170. K skinner I've got quite a few screen shots, how are we going to

get them to whoever needs them?

I have a photobucket i can upload to, or email wordpads or what?

[AuntPatsy]

178. Mass State Site Has An Article

http://www.gopusa.com/

But no link and I clicked on the entire page thinking it might be hidden, you guys are making me paranoid. I have a question though, what is the purpose of this investigation, if people on here can find these links to Swift boat, can't the team of Kerry's?

[NMDemDist2]

191. Kerry's team wont have the time, we do it like it's a party hehe n/t

[Lex]

174. Wayne County, NC has the swiftliars logo and link.

http://waynegop.com

(It's on the right on that page.)

Please do a screen grab, if possible. Thanks!

Also, check out the Tshirt with the little kid that says "Vote Weepublican" :puke:

[TheDonkey]

I've been to at least 10 rethug websites, pure trash

I'd call social services about that shirt too. Should be torture to make a kid wear republican propoganda.

[TheDonkey]

188. I've been to at least 10 rethug websites, pure trash

I'd call social services about that shirt too. Should be torture to make a kid wear republican propoganda.

[incapsulated]

198. Capture on post #103

:hi:

[SidDithers]

177. Collier County, FLA had a fundraising solicitation...

from another thread, but thought it should go here too.

Had a fundraising solicitation:





But then scrubbed it within 2 hours of Skinner's screen cap:



Sid

[SayitAintSo]

196. I would think that would be particularly damning evidence...

Just wondering how all of this will/can be be used ...

[Sparkly]

204. I think so too -- Maybe an asterisk for those sites!!

And, if this thread starts to slow down, please help track the money trail -- I don't know how this information is retrieved! Thanks :)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x650090

[My Pet Goat]

179. delete (dupe)

[seafan]

182. Collier County , FL Republican Executive Committee site

Has a link to Unfit for Command book and a reference to the Swift Boat Ad.


http://www.colliergop.org/

[SidDithers]

184. See a couple posts above...

They had more than a book link, but took it down :)

:toast:

Sid

[seafan]

199. Ya beat me by 4 minutes!

Glad you got that screen shot!

Here's a link I used for many repug counties in FL..

http://www.electgop.net/fl/county/

I quickly checked them all, but not the "young repug" sites...

Collier was the only thing I found. Now I feel like I need a BATH.

:D

[unfrigginreal]

187. Jackson County, Iowa - Link to SBL website

They have a Featured Links list on the right of the page.

http://www.jacksongogop.com/

[Kipepeo]

192. Here's One: Racine County, Wisconsin

I don't know how to do a screenshot but they have a link on the Right side of the Front page, directly to the swiftvet site:

http://www.racinegop.org/

Edited to add: they've got that link/image on a lot of their pages, not just the front page.

[incapsulated]

195. Capture on post #175

:hi:

[NMDemDist2]

197. got it eom

[My Pet Goat]

194. 10th district Georgia ??

Sorry if this is a dupe, the list is confusing.

http://www.gagop10.org/10thDistrict_E-EE_8_11_04.htm

Prominent link

[incapsulated]

202. Got it

Will post...

[incapsulated]

205. Capture:

[sub.theory]

207. Des Moines County, Iowa

Front page, front and center

http://www.dmcgop.org/

(appologies for no pic)

[incapsulated]

209. Got it, will post capture n/t

[sub.theory]

210. See Also for Link

They directly link to the Swift Boat liars.

http://www.dmcgop.com/links.shtm

[incapsulated]

215. Here is the capture:

[Kipepeo]

208. Osceola County, FL

I've already posted one dupe (sorry incapsulated! :) )

But this one I don't see in the thread yet.

Osceola County, FL: http://www.osceolarepublicans.org/

They've got a link/image directly to the swift vet site on the bottom of the front page. Don't know how to do a screen shot...

[incapsulated]

211. Got it...

Don't apologize to me, lol. I forget what I've posted, myself! :)

[incapsulated]

216. Screen Capture:

[Kipepeo]

221. thanks!

You're right. This is better than an easter egg hunt. :)

[Maddy McCall]

220. I posted this above. Anyone who can get screenshots, please get my other

Florida finds, linked above. One county is even HOSTING the swiftliar ads!

[imax2268]

212. here's something...

http://mightyspork.blogspot.com/2004/08/florida-republicans-helping-swiftboat.html

[seabeyond]

218. Florida Republicans helping Swiftboat Attack Dogs Raise Funds

they arent shy are they. this is illegal is what everyone is saying. wow, they have balls

[incapsulated]

214. BTW, about my screen captures...

I have made them all smaller than the originals to load faster. I also have the larger originals if anyone wants those, too.

:)

[Maddy McCall]

217. SKINNER, SEE MY FLORIDA LINKS (COUNTY) POSTED ABOVE

[Maddy McCall]

219. Can someone PLEASE get screenshots of my florida finds above?

I have dialup, so even if I capture them, I can't upload them.

Thanks in advance!

:hi:

jc

[incapsulated]

224. Ok, gimme a minute... n/t

[Maddy McCall]

225. Thanks, incapsulated!

You're the best! :D

[incapsulated]

229. Nah... problem

I can't get that media file to load so I can capture it! :(
Maybe someone else can?

I got the collier county one, though, I'll post it.

[SidDithers]

231. Collier already posted - message #177 nt

Sid

[incapsulated]

237. See, I can dupe, too!

:hi:

Posted anyways, upthread.

[SidDithers]

245. Just trying to save you some work...

Great job on all the screen caps tonite!

:toast:

Sid

[incapsulated]

250. Thanks!

I had already posted it before I read your post, heh. :toast:

[incapsulated]

226. Already have Osceola county

Posted upthread...

[Maddy McCall]

222. Pinellas Co. Fla is HoSTiNG THE AD on their website!

Someone PLEASE get a screenshot!

http://www.pcrecfl.com/kerry_lies.htm

[My Pet Goat]

244. Wow, that is really outrageous and way over the line....

at that GOP website the Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth" and the GOP are the same.

[My Pet Goat]

255. I made some screenshots of it...

however if there are any more expert at taking screenshots please take some more.

[Rowdyboy]

227. So, there is NO connection between the Republican party and SBVT

Sure...no problem...rotflmao over and over and over again

LIFE IS GOOD!!!

[Maddy McCall]

234. LOL!

[Kipepeo]

230. Nash County, NC

Nash County Republican Party, NC: http://nashgop.home.att.net/

They've got a big ole link on the front page.

[incapsulated]

242. Got it, will post.. n/t

[incapsulated]

248. Capture here:

[masshole]

236. Nothing found in Mass

but I got a laugh when I opened this link:

http://www.westernmassrepublicans.com/

[mfritz]

239. Morris County NJ, please get screenshots

Here: http://www.morrisgop.org/kerry.htm
and Here: http://www.morrisgop.org/themdems.htm

They have a link to ad, and swiftvets

I'm checking all the county GOP sites in NJ

[incapsulated]

243. Got it, will post n/t

[incapsulated]

Captures Here:

[Kipepeo]

241. Los Angeles County Repukes are sly

http://www.lagop.org/

Linking with this text:

"IMPORTANT: Click Here to see a 1 min video of what those that served with John Kerry really think of his Vietnam service."

To the video on the "human events" site (a right-wing "news" site) so it's not directly to the swiftvets site.

Don't think that counts. :shrug:

[incapsulated]

246. It counts to me! (got it) n/t

[incapsulated]

251. Capture:

[Kipepeo]

282. They've changed it!! But to include ANOTHER link

this one directly to the swiftvets site:

http://www.lagop.org/

[shivaji]

249. Are you sure this effort is worthwhile?

If having a link to another site is a legal definition
of collusion, then Drudge is guilty of every crime there
is because he has links to almost everything. So is all
our local TV stations and newspaper web sites.

A better use of our time would be to search for telephone
records between white house or RNC and Swiftvets. I am sure
this can be obtained under the freedom of information act.
Just my 2 cents worth.

[incapsulated]

252. These are official sites of the Republican Party

It's different if it's a personal or for-profit site. These represent the Party itself.

[mfritz]

253. next step - contact local media with screenshots

Might be able to generate stories in the local news.

"Hey reporter, Bush campaign says they aren't involved in swift boat liars. So how come this GOP website is promoting it?"

[Cronus Protagonist]

254. YES.. This one is very important.

This one has immediate and timely practical use. And could be documenting a serious violation of election laws in many states, the Federal laws and depending on how much covering up takes place, there could be several federal charges for hiding the evidence of wrongdoing.

Not to mention impeaching the credibility of the GOp and the Swiftboat Veterans for Bush in real life AND the media.

What's not to like about it?


SHOVE IT! - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - Hero Kerry AWOL Bush
http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[Kipepeo]

280. Contacting the Local Media

I started a thread in my state Forum encouraging people to do so: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=141x2205

Maybe we should post in the other relevant state forums as well? And we can add local media contacts to the threads.

[mfritz]

257. NJ - check state, all county sites, and a few local ones

Nothing new to report, besides what's already been pointed out at the Cape May County site and Morris County site.

[DoYouEverWonder]

258. Oops someone already got it

http://www.capegop.org/

Thanks.

[Fleshdancer]

259. QUESTION:

Does posting an article about a claim made in the Unfit For Command book count?

I found this on the Paulding County, Georgia GOP site but I want to make sure it's enough:

http://www.pauldingrepublicans.org/

Kerry's 'Christmas in Cambodia'

...A new book, "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry," by John O'Neill and Jerome R. Corsi, argues that Mr. Kerry was never in Cambodia, during Christmas 1968 or otherwise. To support their allegation, Messrs. O'Neill and Corsi highlight the denials of all living commanders in Mr. Kerry's chain of command that Mr. Kerry was in Cambodia, or was ever ordered into Cambodia....Also, the authors report that three out of Mr. Kerry's five-man Swift boat crew deny that they or their boat was in Cambodia during Christmas 1968 — the other two refused to comment.

it links to the Washington Times

[lojasmo]

260. Minnesota

http://www.gop-mn.org/

Blogs on the bottom left of the page...captains quarters has SWVFT crap right on the top of the page.

Only links, no direct mention made.

[NashVegas]

262. Tennessee Looks Clear

but I've only had 1 cup of tea.

[BlueCollar]

264. Texas - Tarrant County - nothing - eom

[cmd]

265. Need screenshot for Tuscarawas County, Ohio

Direct link to Swiftboats at bottom of home page
http://www.tuscgop.org/html/TCRO.htm

I''ve checked all 88 counties and have found nothing else. Wouldn't you just know that my county - the first one I checked would be the one to have a link.

[cmd]

270. Please help with a screen shot

I have no clue about doing one.

[Zynx]

272. Press the "PrtScn" button towards the top-right of your keyboard

and then hit paste on a program like "Paint".

[cmd]

273. I still need help

Thank you for your advice; however, no such button exists on my Mac. Can you capture it for me? Pretty please?

[NMDemDist2]

274. i got it eom

[cmd]

275. Thank you! (eom)

[gollygee]

266. I checked Kent County, Kalamazoo County and Allegan County, Michigan - nil

didn't see any mention of the swifties.

[gollygee]

267. Wayne County GOP has it!! I don't know how to do the screen capture

can someone get one?

http://www.waynegop.com/

It's on the right hand side

[gollygee]

268. Forget it - this is Wayne County Tenn - already above.

[JSG]

271. NEW HAMPSHIRE - Cheshire County - BINGO

http://www.nhgop-cheshire.org/

http://www.nhgop-cheshire.org/shipmates.htm

There's one little sentence that says the SHIPMATES are not affiliated with the Bush campaign - but if a GOP-run website has a link to it, what's the difference?

[eaprez]

276. Ohio - Counties

Some of the counties have news stories related to SBV.
As an aside, I am amazed at how many sites have links to THE DRUDGE REPORT!

[lunarboy13]

277. Need Someone to Check This...

I found a link to what may be the new Swiftboat ad on the Collin County Republican website in Texas. I lost windows media player (long story) so I can't confirm it...but here's what it says:

"Kerry's Fellow Vietnam Vets Call Him Unfit"
--click here for new commercial

Link to County website:

<http://www.collincountygop.com/>

[cheezus]

279. North Dakota - nothing

but I'll keep googling

[tandot]

283. Collin County Texas has the link to the new SwiftVets ad directly

on their website.

http://www.collincountygop.com

I've screen captured it and saved it to my hard drive, but have no way of publishing it...

[thecrow]

290. email it to me and I will publish it

and for anyone else who cannot publish.... ALSO please email me the article!!

[tandot]

306. Incapsulated has captured it. See post below.

Thanks, thecrow.

:hi:

[incapsulated]

292. Here is a Capture:

[tandot]

305. Thanks, Incapsulated

:yourock:

[eleny]

284. The GOPUSA main site has a hidden link

This is probably an old find but here it is just in case:

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/august/0810_swift_boat_vets.shtml

They still have an article about the Swift Boat Vets from the Talon News dated August 10th with an inserted link to the Swift Vets web site. The link is in the second paragraph.

Screen capture

[Junkdrawer]

285. Were we involved in this ?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x769706

[thecrow]

287. VIRGINIA

I can't get a screen shot (how to do that in XP?)
but on the Bush Cheney site they are asking STATION MANAGERS tonight NOT to run Kerry's ads... does this count?
Here's the site:http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3343

Here's the article:

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Statement by Bush-Cheney '04 8/21/2004


Bush-Cheney '04 Launches Website Geared Towards Americans of Asian Pacific Descent 8/20/2004


Grassroots Support for Bush-Cheney '04 Continues to Grow 8/20/2004


The Week in Preview 8/16/2004


New Memo: Journeys with John 8/13/2004


Latest Campaign News Newscasts








Statement by Charlotte Mayor Pat McCrory 8/22/2004


Letter To Station Managers 8/22/2004


Statement by State Representative Leah Vukmir 8/22/2004


Statement by Dr. Michael Fidler, M.D. Orthopedic Surgeon 8/22/2004




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Releases on Kerry < News < Home


Sunday, August 22, 2004
Letter To Station Managers


ARLINGTON, VA -- Below is a letter that will be sent to the television station managers on Monday morning asking stations to set the record straight on the Kerry campaign's ad falsely accusing Bush-Cheney '04 of violating campaign finance laws.

Dear Station Manager:

Your station is being asked to run an ad from John Kerry's presidential campaign wrongly accusing Bush-Cheney '04 of violating the campaign finance laws. We ask that your station set the record straight.

It is completely false and without any evidence that the Bush "campaign supports a front group attacking John Kerry's military record," as the Kerry ad states. The Bush-Cheney campaign flatly rejects this baseless allegation of illegal coordination between Bush-Cheney '04 and a group called Swiftboat Veterans for Truth. The ad running on your station contains this false and libelous charge. Coordination with Swiftboat Veterans for Truth would be a violation of federal campaign finance laws. 11 C.F.R. 109.21.

Sadly, the Kerry campaign is using this falsehood for which it publicly admits it has no evidence to distract attention and gain free publicity. Attached is a verified transcript from a CNN interview in which Mr. Kerry's own spokesman, Tad Devine, could not present even one piece of hard evidence to back up the Kerry campaign's allegations.

The attached CNN Inside Politics verified transcript shows that Kerry campaign spokesman Devine is basing his charges solely on a newspaper article, "....it's in the New York Times today." However, not even this newspaper article presents evidence of "coordination." What has been reported are the Kerry campaign's unsubstantiated charges along with the explicit denial from the Bush-Cheney campaign. In fact, after inquiring about the alleged coordination reported in the New York Times story relied on by Mr. Devine, Wolf Blitzer, based on an earlier interview with a reporter who wrote the New York Times story, corrected Devine by stating, "They don't have any hard evidence backing it up." In other words, the allegation contained in the commercial runnin g on your station is based on nothing more than the Kerry campaign's false accusations, having them reported in the media, and then the Kerry campaign referring to the published false accusations as proof.

The Kerry campaign is hiding behind the law which does not permit your station to reject this false advertising by a candidate. But your station can insure that the record is clear in your total program. We ask that you to do that.

Respectfully,

Ken Mehlman
Campaign Manager

[SayitAintSo]

289. Looks to me like we have all the evidence they need...

of coordination ... can wait for next weeks news cycle to to start carrying all the proof.

[incapsulated]

293. Well, they really aren't...

Asking them "not to run" the ad. They are saying "set the record straight" in "your total program". Which is bullshit, they don't have to do anything, or feel compelled to "explain" a campaign ad, but it isn't a "cease and desist" kind of letter, either.

[LynnTheDem]

291. Silly Q I'm sure but...

Has anyone emailed this to Kerry and blogged it "to campaign" on his blog?

*and why haven't the rapid response guys got allt his already, anyways???*

WELL DONE and CONGRATS, to the soon to be World Renowned and Appreciated and Worshipped "SkinnerCartel" :D

[incapsulated]

295. Not silly...

We need for Skinner to email this to the Kerry folks...

Oh, Skinner!

[alfredo]

294. Nice to see that most Ky Repug sites don't work or have no content

worth reading.

[thecrow]

296. LOTS here...!!!

I really don't have anymore time tonight (getting sleepy)
but here is a Google search of "republican+county+swiftvets.com"
http://www.google.com/search?q=republican%20county%20swiftvets.com&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=gw

Get your screen-shooters ready and have fun!

Also try this same search on alltheweb.com, altavista.com, etc.
Google is not the only search engine, you know.

[vetwife]

301. Got it..Racine gop..Georgia

http://www.racinegop.org/

[vetwife]

302. They advertise national, state and local and check the Swift link above

Racine County GOP Campaign Headquarters OPEN
Bell
7.19.2004
The office is located at 6100 Washington Avenue in the strip mall at the corner of Washington and Emmertsen, just behind the Subway Restaurant.

HOURS: Mon - Fri, 3 p.m.-7 p.m.
Saturdays, 10 a.m.-2 p.m.
PHONE: [phone]
EMAIL: [e-mail]

The office will be the Racine campaign headquarters for all the national, state and local Republican races.

If you'd like to volunteer to help staff our office, or help any of the other campaigns in any way, you can either sign up at the "Volunteer" link on the menu to the left; or stop into the office during our regular hours.

Thanks, and hope to see you in there soon!
Read More Republican Party of Racine County News

[thecrow]

297. GEORGIA

www.gagop10.org A DISTRICT site!


Content: click on topic to advance

1. View August 10 Runoff Results
2. District 10 annual picnic and District Committee Meeting
3. Voting Results in various counties in the 10th District
4. GOP Becomes Georgia’s Majority Party
5. Republican National Convention - August 30 - September 2, 2004
6. National Convention Watch Parties for the President September 2, 2004
7. 10th District Web Site Updates
8. Favorite Cartoons of the Day


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1. View August 10 Runoff Results
Statewide vote results
Secretary of State Web site

Some of the Big Winners:
Denise Majette (D) U.S. Senate
Tom Price (R) U.S. House District 6
Lynn Westmoreland (R) U.S. House District 8
Bannister defeats Wayne Hill for Gwinnett Commission Chairman

Note: If I were a candidate, I don't think that I would want the Governor's
endorsement ;- )

Runoffs in Georgia: 2004 - AJC
4 County Chairmen: Please send us your lists of primary winners and races for November 2. E-Mail webmaster
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2. District 10 Annual Picnic and District Committee Meeting. Mark your calendars for the picnic on August 21 at Lee Newton Park in Jasper. This is the same place where we had the picnic last year -- and it was GREAT. Read invitation for more details. Many thanks to the Pickens GOP for hosting this for the district.
A few county chairmen did not receive tickets mailed to them in early July, so tickets may be purchased at the picnic.

See Agenda for the August 21 District Committee meeting, along with directions to Lee Newton Park.

Directions to Jasper from North - East - South – West
Note: The Chamber of Commerce and Lee Newton Park occupy the same grounds.

From the East and West take Highway 53, from North and South take Highway 515

WEST – From I-75, go east on Highway 53, through Fairmont. Highway 53 goes right to Jasper. After you cross Highway 515, turn left onto Maple Street.

EAST - Highway 53 brings you right into Jasper. Go through town. Turn right onto Maple Street.

SOUTH - At the intersection of Highway 515 and 53 (the third traffic light on 515) turn right onto Highway 53. Turn left onto Maple Street.

NORTH - At the intersection of Highway 515 and 53 turn left onto Highway 53. Turn left onto Maple Street.

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3. Voting Results in various counties in the 10th District
Results from a number of counties in the 10th District are posted on the Home page of our web site. Read what is posted as of this date.
Help needed from the 10th District County Chairmen -- Please send us your winners in the August 10 runoff and a list of your November contested races to be posted on this web site.
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4. GOP Becomes Georgia’s Majority Party
With 98% of precincts reporting, 648,218 voters chose the Republican ballot ink the July primaries, which constitutes 51% of the vote. By comparison, in the last like elections, 56% of voters pulled the Democrat ballot in 1996, and over 70% in 2000. - Alec Poitevint, Chairman of the Georgia Republican Party
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5. Republican National Convention - August 30 - September 2, 2004
The 10th District will be well represented at the upcoming National Convention in New York. All nine of our delegates and alternates will be leaving on August 28 to fly to the Big Apple to participate in the once in a lifetime experience of helping to nominate President George W. Bush for reelection as President and Vice President Dick Cheney as Vice President. Read more about this on the Daily Diary web page which Bettye Chambers has set up for the convention. Daily events and photos will be posted on this page each day during the convention. The 10th District does have the unique combination of a mother and son attending as alternate delegates -- our own Judy and Doug Grammer.

Visit the GOP Convention web site at www.gopconvention.com and stay informed on the convention proceedings. Click here to view Georgia's daily diary page on the convention web site. View map page for accessing diaries from other states.

Click here to see the updated complete list of Georgia Delegates and Alternates.





(L - R) Delegate Chuck Payne (Whitfield Co), Alternate Judy Grammer (Walker Co.) Alternate Ben Satterfield (Gwinnett), Alternate Denise Clopton (Walker), Delegate Wesley Clark (Hall), Alternate Doug Grammer (Walker), Alternate Bettye Chambers (Hall), Delegate Chip Pearson (Dawson) Left lower: Delegate Reva Jennings of Forsyth County.


(right) Brad Scott of Catoosa County will be attending as a page.




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6. National Convention Watch Parties for the
President September 2, 2004

Please let us know of any parties planned in your county so that we may post them on this web site.

On Thursday, September 2, when the President makes his acceptance speech to the convention, thousands of Convention Watch Parties for the President will be taking place across the country.

To see what Wesley Clark and Bettye Chambers, Co-Chairmen for the Hall for Bush/Cheney Campaign, have planned for Hall County's Convention Watch Party click here to read the invitation. COME ON DOWN AND JOIN THE PARTY AT LOCOS RESTAURANT IN GAINESVILLE where three huge TV screens will provide ample convention viewing from 8 to 11 p.m.

Since Wesley and Bettye will be in New York viewing the convention proceedings on September 2, J.D. Mealor of Gainesville has graciously agreed to act as Chairman for this biggest ever Party for the President. Contact J.D. if you would like to attend.

Click here to Read all about it. .

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7. 10th District Web Site Updates

Please take a look at new entries near the top of the Home page which include the video by the Swift Boat Vets which has been the talk of TV and radio for the past week.
www.swiftvets.com

Human Events Exclusive:
Vietnam Vets Organization Blasts Kerry in New TV Ad










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8. Favorite Cartoons of the Day -





Click to view more Kerry Bounce Cartoons

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[AmerDem]

303. What is going to be done with all the info? ( screenshots etc. )

There have been a couple small reports about GOP campaign websites linking to the swift boat liars for shrub. The only thing I heard was it would take direct information of money changing hands from Rove to these guys before anything could be done.

Has the Kerry campaign listed an end game to this info or is it a matter of letting the general public know about it in hopes of swaying their opinion?

[auburngrad82]

304. Franklin County NC

http://kerry-04.com/

Obnoxious website with link to Swift Boatbots.

[thecrow]

309. Screen shot

[thecrow]

310. I think this needs a KICK!

:kick:

[Stephanie]

311. kick for vetwife

will discuss this on Radio Left 5:00 EST Tuesday