Could THIS be the moment McCain has been waiting for???

[Rosco T.]

"Revenge is a dish best served cold"

Just like Kerry had to play it cool and let Shrub hang himself on this and wait till the links became visable...

Now that all the DIRECT links to BushCo are being exposed, could he now stand up and say...

"I was deceived, I was lied to, I was told that President Bush was not responsible for these shameful ads..

No More"

and walk away from Shrub??

[ibegurpard]

1. I would suggest you stop pinning your hopes on McCain.

He's not going to turn on Bush.

[Kahuna]

3. Amen. McCain is a repuke creep. Period.

nt

[Rosco T.]

6. I didn't say I was pinning anything on him...

just another nail in Shrub's coffin..

and I wouldn't bet on it. And I didn't say he would turn to Kerry, just turn away from Shrub (ie. affiliate with NO ONE.. that would be more deveastating to Shrub)

[Florida_Geek]

8. I probably will not win the Lotto but I can

dream right.

Yes I have thought about what if McCain got up at the Repug conventions and endorsed Kerry......... Just a dream...

[Eric J in MN]

22. It's nice to imagine, but it's also unlikely. McCain wants to be

President.

McCain will keep supporting Bush so the Republican Party will support him running for President in 2008.

[RummyTheDummy]

2. McCain is a coward

He will serve his master until he is told otherwise.

[ikojo]

4. McCain is NOT going to walk away from Bush

The Republican party is VERY disciplined. If he criticizes Bush in ANY WAY he may lose whatever power he does exercise in the Senate. Republicans are punished for going against the party line and generally the punishment is swift.

Unlike the Democrats who don't seem to mind that one of their own, Zell, is shilling for Bush during an election year when the party is supposed to be "united."

[Cha]

19. Just a thought...

What happens when bush Loses?

[Doosh]

5. mccain warned shrub

to stop these ads while he had a chance, mccain knew it was going to blow up in shrubs face, he knew we had the dirt on these swifties. Deep down inside, mccain is enjoying this.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

9. You're right. McCain is enjoying this.

.

[Cha]

20. How could he not have some...

schaudenfreud?

[Jackpine Radical]

33. Bitte...

Schadenfreude.
Danke.

[Eurobabe]

36. bitteschoen

das is richtig.

[napi21]

45. I looked that word up on the net.

I only found it one place, and they say it means "to take pleasure in someone elses pain."

[avenueb]

7. in dreams

that would be it.. the end for Bush, but also the end of McCains future gop pres run.

[Rosco T.]

10. You think 'this' GOP has a FUTURE when Shrub get's nailed??

Shrub going down will destroy the neo-con GOP. McCain may well be the phoneix of the new one.. and to do that, he may have to distance himself from Shrub now... I didn't say ally with Kerry, just distance himself from Shrub.

[Doosh]

14. McCain will be 72 in 2008

2000 was his last chance when he was 64.

[Eric J in MN]

23. Bob Dole was 73 when he got the Republcan nomination (nt)

nt

[Doosh]

32. and he didn't do so well

I think Reagan set the age limit for running for your first term as president. He was 69 and anything after that is unacceptable. Dole was never supposed to win, the GOP ran him because it was his turn, just sort of threw him to the wolves, but they conceded that election.

[napi21]

46. A lot depends on his health. He's had lots of problems with skin

cancer. I do think he would love another shot at the Presidency, and if he's healthy, he stands a good shot at it, IF HE GETS THE SUPPORT OF THE PUB PARTY! From everything I hear, that's who burried him in 2000. It wasn't his support with the people, it was the Party whowanted shrub.

[Jane Austin]

11. Sorry, No.

When Bush gets beat, McCain has been a good Republican and will win the nomination in 08.

If Bush has made things too bad for Kerry to get us out of in four years, McCain gets to be President.

[Skip Intro]

12. Waiting on McCain is like waiting on the Tooth Fairy

The McCain you think exists (who I thougt, at one time, existed as well) - DOES NOT EXIST.

After seeing the pics of McCain hugging war pig bush - he can follow bush's path right to hell as far as I'm concerned.

[Cha]

21. mccain did look a little too starry

eyed, didn't he?

[Bluebear]

13. "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?"

"Because Janet Reno is her real father!" - John McCain, in speech to Republicans

Hardeeharhar....I could give a shit about him beyond thanking him for his service to our country, but I'm no fan.

[Cha]

25. That's some stupid shit! And he also

made some ugly comments about Barbra Streisand on snl, no?

Chelsea is turning out to be a beautiful young lady..

[Claire Beth]

42. AMEN to that!!! n/t

[spanone]

43. This is THE FACE of the republican party.

[Rosco T.]

15. You're not getting the point...

At one time, it would have been nice for McCain to endorse Kerry.. but now, I'm thinking that McCain is out for McCain.

What better way to lead his OWN WING of the party than to walk away from Shrub because of 'dirty politics' and lead a 'party of respect'
What better way to be in a position to be the 'phoenix' that raises the GOP from the ashes and disgrace of Shrub getting trounced in November.
What better way to ASSURE he's the candidate in '08.

When Shrub goes down, so do the neocon fanatics, off to lick their wounds to try to regroup. But that regroup won't be in '08..

McCain is out for McCain...

now ponder that...

[Doosh]

18. he'll have to deal with Jeb/Rove in 08 then

[maine_raptor]

16. Nice dream, but

don't count on it.

On the other hand you have to think that a guy that got his time in Hanoi dissed, his adopted daughter dissed, and his wife dissed, all by the same folks has got to be giving some thought to getting some sort of pay back. (Maybe a silent refusal to appear with W from now on?)

I don't know, I do have a question, when is McCain's term up and how old is he now? (ok, two questions I know :) )

[olddem43]

29. McCain is up for election this year and he is 68 now.

[elperromagico]

17. If he's still supporting Bush after what happened in South Carolina,

what makes you think this is going to change his mind?

[A_Possum]

24. At least we don't question McCain's military record

Even if we don't agree with his politics. And we haven't questioned Chuck Hagel's either, even though he's a Republican.

In FACT, we haven't questioned ANY veteran's service, while the Republicans have gone after THREE Democrats.

Disgusting hypocrites.

[Cha]

26. I question chuck hagel's ties to black box voting

machines, though.

[A_Possum]

31. Nuttin' wrong with that :)

At least you aren't making up lies about his Master Plan to get out of Vietnam on national TV.

[madaboutharry]

27. McCain sold his soul a long time ago.

Maybe there was a time when John McCain sought the high road of decency, but that time is long past. He is morally bankrupt, unable to stand up for the principles he claims to believe. His public persona of independence is nothing more than a mythology. He has become a pitiful and cowardly little man who disgraces the Senate office he holds.

[DUreader]

28. john is vengeful?

[many a good man]

30. The Republican Party is Disintegrating Before Our Very Eyes

And McCain wants to be in a position to pick up the ashes. I think he wants to be President and doesn't care if he's too old. He's too needed by the Party and the Press to resurrect the GOP after Bush/Cheney/Rove train wreck...

[bklyncowgirl]

34. Don't hold your breath n/t

[LisaL]

35. I don't think so.

They will be hugging as ususal.

[TexasSissy]

No. McCain is a Repub who is campaigning for his party's nominee.

It's as simple as that. He's NOT a creep, as some other posters say. He's an honorable man who happens to belong to a different party. It's infantile to think that makes him a creep.

But it's naive to think that he would desert his party simply because he doesn't happen to like the current nominee, Bush. He's a Republican. He will stay a Republican. He will campaign for Republican nominees. He's not changing parties.

Why do people have trouble understanding that?

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38. I Think This Is The Moment McCain Dreaded..

when he finally would have to take a definitive and irrevocable stand...

[SayitAintSo]

39. I wish ... he's a good soldier tho'...

If he endured the Hanoi Hilton, he can hold his nose and hug Bush. I would like to believe he would draw the line and honor ALL vets by walking away from this vicious lying chickenhawk. We call all hope tho'

[GalleryGod]

40. Unfortunately, "John's gone."

:evilfrown:

[WI_DEM]

41. Not Likely

What McCain will say is "it's time we stop fighting a war which ended 30 years ago."

[Karmadillo]

44. Could this be the moment when Julia Roberts announces Karmadillo is

the father of her twins?

Nope.