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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 01:59 PM Original message |
Question: concering Fisa |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. it doesn't matter whether it would have passed without his vote or not. he voted to |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. No. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. A vote against it would only have been symbolic. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. yes, here's me missing the big picture and hoping he would have stood |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I agree, but winning matters... |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. do people think that anyone who was gonna vote AGAINST obama |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I think he supported a part of the legislation, knew that voting no would only... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. And those principles would stand him in good stead |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. see link |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. You've got it bass ackward. |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. He said he would filibuster it.... |
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Raine1967 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. No, THIS is a credibility problem... |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I didn't click the link but... |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. of course it matters |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. No he's not ... |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. no - I prefer our party remembers him as one that values |
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Popol Vuh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. What? Sorry, but, are you on Crack or something? |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Do you really expect me to believe that.. |
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Popol Vuh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. His vote doesn't matter? |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. In reality it doesn't matter.. |
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Popol Vuh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Now you're being presumptuous |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. If he would have voted no... |
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Popol Vuh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Still Trying To Inject That Dead Strawman? |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I wish there would have been this much outrage... |
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Popol Vuh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. There Was As I Remember |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. And thats all well and good |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. so you are going to allow the right to set the agenda |
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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. If Obama loses it will be because he didn't stand on principle. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
13. No it would not have effected the outcome |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
19. It only matters if it's important for a presidential candidate to defend the Constitution. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. He will when he wins... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Or maybe they think he has less of a chance of winning if he sells out. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Since you are on this board protesting everyday... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Actually, I haven't been here in a few days - the thought police make it too boring... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
28. You're right about the numbers... all the more reason for him to have kept his integrity!!! eom |
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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. What integrity? n/t |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Ugh... I'm seeing it wane... |
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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
30. So he should have voted for it just because everyone else did. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Sorry obama is not disgraceful... |
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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Yes. Poor Obama! Boo hoo! |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. How in the hell did he sell out the constitution.. |
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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. BECAUSE HE VOTED FOR IT! |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Don't bother with insignificant stuff like that - just cheer and wave your pom-poms! |
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