What would the Republicans and willing corporate media say if Obama voted against FISA?

[zulchzulu]

Let's just put the hypothetical out there...

They would say....

(Note: now they can't say these things...)

[NattPang]

1. And they would have whispered that he is a Muslim with

questionable patriotic feelings
for the cherry on top.

[BlueStater]

2. Who gives a shit what those assholes would say?

Unfortunately, Obama was too afraid to stand up to their slime and allowed them to affect an extremely important vote.

And I don't give a rat's ass if it would have passed regardless of how Obama voted. This is about principles or lack thereof.

[NattPang]

4. If you don't give a fuck

then your rights are not really
that important to you.

If you think that your rights
have not been gone since 2001,
then you are clueless.

I think you just want to whine, not win.
If so, go ahead, but don't pretend.

[Skittles]

3. WHO GIVES A FUCK ??? THEY ARE FASCIST ASSHOLES

LOOK WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO AMERICA........are you saying Obama needs to vote repuke from now on? WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS BOARD???? I AM IN FREEPERLAND.

[NattPang]

5. OBAMA'S VOTE DID NOT TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHTS.

YOU HAD NO RIGHTS BEFORE THE VOTE
JUST LIKE YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS AFTER IT.
YOU ARE ACTING, AND YOUR ACT IS OBVIOUS.

[Skittles]

6. YOU DON'T GET IT

YOU JUST DON'T FUCKING GET IT. THIS IS NO ACT....I read that bill word for word and I am FUCKING OUTRAGED. It is YOUR act that is enabling politicians and killing this country.

[vaberella]

8. Where is the direct language from the bill to solidify your defense. You lost your rights with the

Patriot Act I and II---which is what inadvertently screwed up FISA (1978) and hence for FISA (2008). And this is not saying that it's quite probable we lost our rights even before then. We're working now to restore them little by little.

[quaker bill]

18. Elect the sane

it always helps.

[vaberella]

7. All of the above until election and if some shit went down; Obama could say good bye like Kerry did.

[TheDonkey]

9. MSM would have gone on a full assualt.

[Lilith Velkor]

10. They will attack him no matter what he does

It's amazing how many political junkies don't seem to know that.

[Bobbie Jo]

11. Spot on pal...now let's just get him elected so he can have some level of control over how

this bullshit system works. Until then, he has to maneuver within it, yeah...and probably even manipulate it to his advantage.

Lets face it...if he can't out-maneuver the rats at their own game, HE WILL NEVER BE IN A POSITION TO CHANGE THE RULES.

Get him elected.....then bitch if he doesn't meet your standards. If any of you have ever REALLY listened to him, ( and I don't mean casually) I'm talking tuning in beyond the sound bites....you KNOW this man GETS IT. You also know the shit he has to swim through to get to the other side. So, instead of going OCD over his every move, and providing more aimless talking points than the right could ever hope to have the collective creativity to provide for themselves, let's give him, and ultimately the rest of us, a shot at the possibility of crawling out of this mess. :think:


If your REALLY want to wallow in your concern, consider the ramifications of FISA under the control of a McCain administration. :scared:


and now back to your regularly scheduled FISA programming.....

[NattPang]

12. I want to recommend this post.

[writes3000]

14. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! n/t

[zulchzulu]

20. Agreed...

The Repigs try to set traps to then get their 527s to do the usual sycophantic horseshit...

[Bullet1987]

13. People don't know or give a fuck about the amount of attacks Obama

would have come under. They don't give a rats ass that the bill would have passed REGARDLESS of whether or not Obama voted against it. Let them bitch and moan. I'm upset the shit was passed too, but you don't see my head exploding like I'm losing my damn mind.

[nc4bo]

19. and if you ask the average Jane or Joe IRL............

what they think of the Patriot Act and the FISA bill - most would have no clue what any of this is all about nor will they give 2.5 shits. Why? Because they are too busy trying to figure out how to pay for gas, pay for food, pay their utility bills, on a job search, trying their mortgages......

All Joe cares about is getting some relief from the crushing cost of living and breathing air in the U.S.A.

What the average Joe learns, more often than not, comes directly from the MSM spin cycle: "ZOMG, Obama's base is divided!!!!!! SWEET GEEZUS, look how his base is scratching their eyeballs out, see how they are tearing their nominee apart limb from limb!!!!!, HOLY SHIT!!!! Obama is an unpatriotic hypocrite, blah-blah, etc."

I'm sure the MSM is enjoying the show and taking plenty of notes to use as fuel in their efforts to tear down Obama and promote their champion, Bush III.


i'll be glad when this shit is over.

[JI7]

15. they will repeatedly bring it up and then release some terrorist tape or some bs red alert

towards the end of the campaign and then claim if we didn't have what Obama does not want, we might have been attacked.

[AndyTiedye]

16. All of Which They Will Say No Matter What Obama Says or Does

That is why they are the Mighty Slime Machine.

[crickets]

17. You are correct.

[harun]

21. Got that right. Why trade "strong on Liberty" for "strong on Terrorism"

when the MSM is going to label him weak on both regardless?

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

22. Concern over what Republicans or the media might say is a uniquely Democratic psychosis

I cannot recall ever hearing anyone BUT a Democrat voice concern over what people whose opinion we don't care about might say and will say regardless of the action taken (by the Democrat.)

It's like someone with a Mother-in-law who hates them trying to vainly please that Mother-in-law while knowing full well in advance that every action taken will be derided and every action not taken will also be derided. People of emotional maturity will at some point decide that the overbearing mother-in-law will not dictate the happiness, the actions or the well-being of the individual.

So, I don't give a !@@# WHAT the Republicans and corporate media will say, since I know in advance it will be negative.

Now, INSTEAD of the Republicans and the media saying the negative things, it is many of us - DEMS who feel betrayed and misled. Would anyone consider that an improvement?