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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:58 PM Original message |
Kerry for Veep? Hell, why not go all the way? |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. McGovern is still alive - why not him? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:01 AM Original message |
He's a bit too exciting. Don't want to scare people |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
49. Yes, I really did laugh out loud when I read that n/t |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
2. Obama's position on FISA is an example of him avoiding |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. As much as I hate that position, I believe you are right. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Wrong. Dukakis lost because he was weak. Kerry and Gore lost because they were weak. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. how was Dukakis weak, he never backed down from his liberal positions |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Are you serious? Check out his infamous death penalty answer during the debates |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. yeah, he stuck to his position on the death penalty |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. It's the WAY he stuck to it -- it almost was like he felt the need to apologize for it. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
27. Clinton could have opposed the death penalty and still won |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Gore lost because he was weak? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Two words: Joe Lieberman |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Two points: |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Gore should have crushed that retarded monkey. He played it safe and look what it got us. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Right, a ham sandwich could have won. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. OMG, Gore lost because he was weak? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
35. The pre "Inconvenient Truth" Gore appeared weak |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Pre-2003 Gore WAS weak. He should have kicked Bush's ass |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
43. The RNC stole 2000,2002 and 2004, and the DNC sat on their hands and let them do it. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. It should have never even been that close. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. BushInc was at its most powerful in 2004 with more media protection than any president in history. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. No, it's Obama who's looking like Dukakis |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Sad but true. |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
3. Any person that seriously thinks Obama will pick Kerry is a dumbass |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. See now, why is that necessary? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Bwah! The overkill cracked me up. |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
11. sigh. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I thought that would be pushing it. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
19. Kerry won, Dukakis didn't |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Try telling that to Kerry. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Seriously, what's your point? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
22. Har har. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Glad you liked it. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Who do you think he should pick? n/t |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. "Should" in the sense of the best political choice? Probably Clark |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Clark just took himself out of the Presidential campaign |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. You would have given that same answer no matter who I named |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. That's your opinion. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Then name someone besides Kerry who Obama "should" pick. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. That's Obama's choice |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. You know we will always disagree on this |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:18 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Of late, I place most of the blame on voters |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. That's a completely self-defeating position |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. Clark has never won an election. EVER. Why people think he is so great |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
37. Both Kerry and Dukakis are good men and dedicated public servents |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:13 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I'd be fine with the Iron Duke as Veep. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
38. I always laugh because Dems eat their own |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:18 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Couldn't agree more. I'd recommend your post if I could. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:26 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. yup, compare it to the way the first Bush and Bob Dole are treated |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:28 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. After that, they are surprised that the GOP and the media make fun of them when they are carrying |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. I disagree, considering who they lost to. |
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