New York Times calls protesters anarchists

[genius]

The story was upfront on my AOL screen and it didn't have a link to the original NYT story. The AOL version included a poll about whether the "anarchists" make a difference.

Since when is democracy equal to anarchism. Those lying reporters are slime.

[wtmusic]

1. There was another post--sounds like AOL "editing" to me

Would be uncharacteristic of the NYT

[tom_paine]

2. Since Imperial America went Bushevik/Totalitarian

In the eyes of Nazi, Commies, and Busheviks, democracy IS anarchy.

Which is why all three moved so swiftly to terminate it.

[BurtWorm]

3. I think they're referring to people who call themselves anarchists.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/nyregion/20protests.html

"Self-described anarchists were blamed for inciting the violence in Seattle at a 1999 meeting of the World Trade Organization in which 500 people were arrested and several businesses damaged. They have been accused by the police of throwing rocks or threatening officers with liquid substances at demonstrations against the Republican convention in Philadelphia in 2000 and at an economic summit meeting in Miami last year."


My problem with the article is that it doesn't raise the issue that the potential for violence may actually reside in the police.

[genius]

4. The whole thing was a lie. They are always calling protesters anarchists.

[BurtWorm]

5. AOL or NY Times?

The Times piece seems to be making a pretty clear distinction. I don't know about AOL, though.

[RodneyCK2]

6. AOL? Are you using them as your ISP?

If so, why? There are so many other choices out there, not to mention the fact the Saudi prince now owns $2.05 billion worth of AOL stock. AOL/Time-Warner controlls CNN. The prince also owns $50 million worth of Disney. See where this is going?

Change providers..

[jus_the_facts]

7. DON'T FORGET....that includes your CABLE television access....

....if you're a TIME/WARNER cable subscriber as well...not just ISP's....most everthing that's sold and bought in today's world was produced and sold by people with an agenda that contradicts progressive ideology. :eyes:

[MiniMoose]

8. I'm pretty sure they call *themselves* anarchists...

The reporters were probably reporting that he protestors are self-styled anarchists. And BTW, it seems like most protestors these days are anti-democratic in the sense that they describe themselves as anarchists, socialist, communist, etc... Protesting is part of a democratic society but if you are doing it because you want to change the government into a form other than democracy, you are anti-democratic.

I'm frankly pissed off that I can't go to an anti-war rally without standing under an A.N.S.W.E.R. banner. I just want some liberty which neither post-9/11-America nor socialism/communism will give me.

[Right Makes Might]

9. But you're united with them about the war

Simply because we disagree with someone on other issues doesn't change our basic unity around the war and the thief-in-office. When we're united on issues we need to stay together, not let the Bushies and the authorities divide us. They'd love to be able to do that - divide and conquer.

[MiniMoose]

11. but...

Frankly, I would never want to win with somebody who in turn I would have to fight against. What would be my prize if the victory resulted in less liberty? I don't think a socialist/communist government would be nearly as protest friendly as the current government so life would be even harder...less liberties and all. I appreciate my right to protest.

[Right Makes Might]

12. When I speak with communists, or read their writings

I'm consistently impressed with their egalitarianism and insistence on democracy. Same with anarchists.

I think the very fact that they not only have taken part in but have played leading roles in efforts to protect our freedoms speaks well for them. In the stiflingly repressive climate after 9/11, when any sort of dissent was being labeled "traitorous," leading communists helped form the first groups protesting Bush's "war on terror" - Clark Kissinger, a communist and one of the founder of NION I believe, is one.

Does this mean that I don't disagree with some of their tactics? No - in particular, the tactic of some anarchists of destroying property belonging to, or representing, corporate interests. Those Gap shops, even if the clothing is made in sweatshops in Indonesia, are owned by people from the middle class we may be able to unite with, especially when they start getting nervous with all the Patriot 1-like fascism going down.

[thebigidea]

14. and the chances of a commie government are, what exactly?

[thebigidea]

13. communism? What decade are you living in?

If you hate the "Islamo-fascists" so much, why the fuck would you want to go to an anti-war rally anyway?

[Larkspur]

10. Remember when Bush called the 10 million who protested the war

a focus group?