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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 03:42 PM
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Wes Clark will be on Dan Abrams tomorrow 6/25
I suspect he will be asked about FISA and the "national security courts." (Guessing)

9:00 PM EDT | 8:00 PM CDT | 7:00 PM MDT | 6:00 PM PDT



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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 04:28 PM
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1. Thanks for the heads up
Although I'm not a fan of Abrams (he's getting very annoying, imho)...I'll check it out to see Wes Clark.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:09 PM
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13. My post verbatim - Hey, Abrams seems to be coming around. He was all OVER the fact that the McClain
quote about "not loving his country until he was a prisoner of war" or something like that, questioning why MSM hadn't even mentioned it. Repuke guest was providing context of the quote, but Abrams fired back at him that the MSM didn't affor Michelle Obama that luxury (very paraphrased here. I will try to find on YouTube, if you are interested.)
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 04:51 PM
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2. I hope Wes talks about this:
The School of Advanced International Studies will host a forum at 8 a.m. on Thursday, June 26, to celebrate the launch of Ideas for America's Future: Core Elements of a New National Security Policy, a book by Jeffrey P. Bialos, a senior fellow at the SAIS Center for Transatlantic Relations.

Wesley K. Clark, former supreme allied commander of NATO and author of the book's preface, will be the featured speaker.

Ideas for America's Future, a 500-page study published by CTR, explores the need for a strategy "reset" and offers a new national security paradigm with three overarching conceptual approaches, six core policy ideas and six approaches to revitalizing the United States' national security tool box. The study is the outgrowth of a symposium that CTR co-hosted last year with the American Security Project, a nonprofit, bipartisan public policy organization.

The event will be held in the Nitze Building's Kenney Auditorium. Non-SAIS affiliates must RSVP to CTR at transatlanticrsvp@jhu.edu or 202-663-5880.

http://www.jhu.edu/~gazette/2008/23jun08/23clark.html


These folks are discussing a new approach to foreign policy that interest me; however, that would be a discussion far above Abrams' usual show.

For me the decisions about foreign policy are less about dove vs hawk, and more about new vs old. The world has changed and the cold war mind-sets need not apply.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 04:58 PM
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3. American Security Project is the think tank that people like John Kerry set up
purposefully including Republicans to make it bi-partisan. Gary Hart heads it.

It is very interesting that Clark is with them.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 05:12 PM
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4. "national security courts"

General Clark, as a member of the Liberty and Security Initiative of the Constitution Project, has signed off on a white paper called, (PDF) "A Critique of 'National Security Courts.'"


In recent years, and particularly in the aftermath of the Supreme Court's decision in Boumediene v. Bush affirming the constitutional rights of "enemy combatants" to challenge their detentions through habeas corpus, several scholars and government officials have called for the creation of specialized hybrid tribunals that would review the preventive detention of suspected terrorists (both within and outside of the territorial United States), conduct the detainees' criminal trials, or, in some cases, both.

A bipartisan coalition of political leaders, national security experts, and legal scholars - all members of the Constitution Project's Liberty and Security Committee or Coalition to Defend Checks and Balances - rejected such proposals this morning, contending that "they neglect basic and fundamental principles of American constitutional law, and they assume incorrectly that the traditional processes have proven ineffective. ... We believe that the government can accomplish its legitimate goals using existing laws and legal procedures without resorting to such sweeping and radical departures from an American constitutional tradition that has served us effectively for over two centuries." The signers describe the ability of traditional civilian and military courts to prosecute those suspected of terrorism and go on to recommend that Congress reject any proposals to create "national security courts."

The following may be attributed to Sharon Bradford Franklin, senior counsel at the Constitution Project: "Establishing an unprecedented and unnecessary system of tribunals risks undermining the constitutional protections enshrined in our criminal justice system. Plans to create a 'national security court' scheme incorrectly assume that existing civilian and military courts are not up to the task. The condemnation of these misguided proposals by respected leaders from across the political spectrum should give pause to those who would abandon fundamental tenets of the Constitution. The search for a national security policy that keeps us safe while preserving liberty is not a zero-sum game."


Notable signers of the white paper include:

* General Wesley Clark (USA, ret.), former Supreme Allied Commander Europe and Commander-in-Chief of the United States European Command;
* Mickey Edwards, former Member of Congress (R-OK) and Chairman of the House Republican Policy Committee;
* Dr. Morton H. Halperin, Executive Director of the Open Society Policy Center and former Director of Policy Planning Staff at the United States Department of State;
* Philip Heymann, former Deputy Attorney General;
* David Kay, former Director of the Iraq Survey Group and Chief Weapons Inspector for the United Nations;
* David Keene, Chairman of the American Conservative Union;
* Harold Hongju Koh, Dean of Yale Law School and former Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor;
* Thomas Pickering, former Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs and United States Ambassador to the United Nations;
* William S. Sessions, former Director of the FBI;
* David Skaggs, former Member of Congress (D-CO) and Chairman of the Democratic Study Group; and
* Patricia Wald, former Judge of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia and Chief Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:05 PM
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5. Kick for the night
:kick:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:35 PM
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6. I'll have to remember this
Thanks!

:hi:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 02:07 PM
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7. Reminder
:hi:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 02:09 PM
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9. Will watch for sure! Thanks!
:hi:
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 02:09 PM
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8. Maybe he will ask him what he thinks of Christie Brinkley's divorce
I was completely disgusted last night to see Abrams covering the Brinkley divorce.

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:49 PM
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10. his lawyer kink gets in the way of things once in a while. :)
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:20 PM
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11. I'm disgusted with Abrams most nights
and never make it through the whole program; however, tonight I'll hope for the best.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:00 PM
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12. Show's about to begin
I'm not sure when Wes comes on.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:11 PM
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14. Joe Watkins: "Who has more credibility than a war hero like John McCain...."
Abrams: "Wesley Clark." LOL!!! :rofl:

I wish Watkins would let The General finish a thought without interrupting!!
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:16 PM
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16. Abrams got the DUZY of the night. ..lol
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 08:16 PM by cbc5g
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:18 PM
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17. That was F-in HILARIOUS!
:rofl:
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:16 PM
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15. O.M.G.
That was so dumb!

I'm sorry you had to deal with those morons General!

It was nice to see him though. :)
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