Personally, I dont understand how anyone but the greedy filthy rich could consider voting Republican

[mtnsnake]

I'm glad that we have a nice lead at this point in the polls, but at the same time it disgusts me that anyone with half a brain could possibly be pulling for the Republicans, considering what they've put us through for 8 years and where we're at right now. I guess that's the nature of the Republican Party beast...to vote along party lines, even if it costs you you and your country its citizens, its dignity, and its future.

After what Bush and Cheney have done to us, anyone who votes Republican in November is out of their fucking minds and should be immediately jettisoned to one of Jupiter's more remote moons where they can live out their dismal lives in misery with their fellow repukes and leave the rest of us the fuck alone so we can attempt to resurrect something along the lines of peace and relative prosperity.

Why anyone would ever want another Republican to run this country after what we've been put though is simply mind boggling.

[freesqueeze]

1. How about poor racists?

I think they have a reason to vote McCain...

[mtnsnake]

4. Poor racists are a fact of life, but it's time that they woke the fuck up

and let a black man help them. They will never get a lick of financial help from Republicans, other than some token tax break that doesn't do a thing for them in the long run. It's their choice. They can be racists and hold it against Obama, or they can be smarter and vote for the man who will help them.

[rucky]

8. = wannabe greedy filthy rich

the only thing holding them back from their birthright are those damn __________s.

[givemebackmycountry]

2. Well you have to remember what Ol' Bart says at Bartcop....

We are one EXTRA stupid country.

[BOSSHOG]

3. Throw in a mix of pride, ignorance and religion

The non-rich bush supporters are too proud to admit how horribly wrong they have been for eight years and its so much easier just to deny it. And then there's that ole gop ploy of getting ignorant trash to vote for you. Just say "I have christian conservative values and I love you." That line locks up the ignorant vote everytime. Oh, and make sure you wear a flag lapel pin because as any red blooded Merkun knows the only way you can be a patriot is to wear a flag lapel pin and vote republican.

[atreides1]

7. So in other words

It's arrogance? Or insanity?

Definition of Insanity:

When a person keeps doing the very same thing over and over again, but expects a different result.

[BOSSHOG]

9. One would hardly consider

that those who support bush would be so damned complicated.

[mtnsnake]

10. True, BOSSHOG. Add to your list arrogance and fear.

I have already come across some people who are simply fearful that a Democratic president might not be able to "protect" us. I have some other Republican aquaintances whose arrogance takes precedence over their brains. Ignorance is probably the single most important reason you listed, though. Unfortunately, Democrats have not been very good at educating the ignorant on our behalf. We need to do more explaining so they don't remain so ignorant.

[BOSSHOG]

12. Many of their LTTE

are funny (sad and dangerous) but funny. Easily summed up thusly - our whole fucking way of life will come to a fucking end if we elect a fucking evil LIBERAL (most likely a communist) democrat as president. That is a sign of the success of the limbaughs in our country and why they have their lemmings lined up against the evil and hateful fairness doctrine.

[ieoeja]

21. "He's a vet," noted my father.

"How do you know that?"

"See that flag pin on his lapel? That signifies he's a military veteran."


I wonder how many GOP pols orginally started wearing the flag pin lapel to fool voters into thinking they were veterans?

[BOSSHOG]

24. I'll be polite relative to your father

I'm a Vet - 24+ years in service. A flag lapel pin is not part of a military uniform and signifies nothing except the wearer has a flag lapel pin on.

Per your father I guess limbaugh and hannity and all other chickenhawks are military veterans.

Just more proof that ignorance is a conservative value.

Continue to love your father.

[ieoeja]

29. Think 30 years ago.

While it was never part of the military uniform, three decades or so ago when my dad told me that, the flag lapel pin *did* proclaim someone a veteran. If you wore a flag lapel pin in those days, then people who knew you were not a veteran saw you as some scum bucket who was faking it.

I am going back to the days when printing a flag on a T-Shirt was considered desecration -- "a sweaty T-Shirt! Why don't you just use the flag as a fucking rag while you're at it" -- not patriotism. Hell, I've seen uber-patriot truck drivers use the American flag as a BUG CATCHER to keep their radiators clean while demonstrating their patriotism. Some folks have on sense of irony.

I was just calling attention to the fact that three decades ago Obama would have been heavily criticized for wearing a flag lapel pin, while today he is criticized for not. And I actually wonder if some of the older veterans wouldn't criticize him today for wearing one. Catch-22.

For the record, before his death my dad was one of those people who drove up FNC ratings because he loved to scream and holler at the assholes on FOX. He was a big-"L" Liberal, ex-Marine. Grew up on a farm bought with moonshining money. Ran moonshine himself which he delivered to the sheriff's department at the county court house. One time Commander of the local American Legion post, he was an outspoken Atheist and favorite Chaplain at military funerals (because he was the only one who didn't feel somewhat uncomfortable reading the "holy" words).

[Marrah_G]

5. Because they think the Dems can't relate or understand their lives.

Mostly due to megachurches, RW radio and a very biased Media.

But also, the Dem party must make changes and make an honest and real attempt to reach these people.

If the people can sit down long enough to really listen to an argument in language they understand, then I have little doubt they would come on board.

[tularetom]

6. I know people that are so friggin dumb that they believe

that we'd all be speaking Arabic and reading the koran if Dems were elected.

They are convinced only the repubs can keep us safe from the scary brown people.

They're so scared they don't mind having their mail searched, their phones tapped and their e-mails read ("If you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about").

You are correct it is mind boggling.

As the late George Carlin said: "Think about how dumb the average American is. Then realize that half of them are dumber than that."

[mtnsnake]

13. Me, too, but Democrats have to do better to inform them & get them to see our side

even if it means we have to dumb ourselves down to get through to some of them.

[predfan]

11. The very fact we're discussing this indicates we have more than a passing fancy

on the subject..........unfortunately nearly half those who could vote won't even register, and then maybe half of those who actually register will actually go to the polls..........to expect them to do a little homework is asking a lot, so we're going to get the standard " can't vote for a Muslim, can't vote for a black man, can't vote for a man with a nut pastor, can't vote for him because of his nut wife.........etc"

don't overestimate the average voter.....that's why we have to educate the extraordinary among us to turn out the vote.

[kentuck]

14. But the "greedy filthy rich" have control of the propaganda machine...

known as the corporate media and are able to "persuade" some Americans of modest means that they stand for things they don't really stand for. In other words, they lie to them.

[mtnsnake]

15. Then the bottom line is that the Republican's best tool is to pray on ignorance

We need to find a way to expose the lying Republicans to the ignorant masses so the ignorant masses become better informed and turn on Republicans in the end.

[kentuck]

16. Yeah. Got any ideas?

:-)

[mtnsnake]

18. Yes. We need to take pages out of Ross Perot's book & simplify things & explain

Instead of just saying that we're not going to raise taxes on anyone but the filthy rich, we need to draw pictures of it so it gets imbedded in their minds that Republicans are out to fuck them and Democrats are out to help them.

We need to EXPLAIN that some tax dollars are actually necessary for things like fixing potholes in highways so they don't have to spend their hard-earned money fixing flat tires that shouldn't have happened. Stuff like that.

We really have sucked when it comes to explaining our side of the story to the average American masses. We can no longer let them just make up their minds on their own. We need to help them do that, and to do that, we have to EXPLAIN things in simpler terms.

[JVS]

17. OTOH having nothing often means having nothing to lose.

[mtnsnake]

19. I don't know of anyone who wouldn't want to have a little bit more out of life

Democrats are out to help them, but there are so many poor people who don't realize it because they're bombarded with so much propaganda, like what BOSSHOG talked about upthread. We need to do better to inform those people of what's going on. We need to prove we're out to help them by explaining in simple terms, step by step, what happens if Democrats are in power and how it will impact their lives. It's gotta be laid out in simpler terms than what we've been doing so far, or they'll never listen.

[JaneQPublic]

20. Jim Cramer (of CNBC's "Mad Money") says even the Investment Class is sick of the GOP

Speaking on "The Chris Matthews Show" Sunday, he said investors and all the business types who usually back the GOP in presidential elections are sick to death of Republican economic incompetence.

Even more shocking, he said he and others like him are ready to give Obama a try.

[mtnsnake]

23. Well that is a good sign

Seriously.

People have just had it. Like I said, I can't believe ANYONE would want to take another chance on ANY Republican, not even for decades to come. Obama should be a bright light at the end of the tunnel for everyone out there.

[ieoeja]

30. Culling the herd.

If we did not let the Democrats rebuild the economy every so often, the investor class would have nothing to steal.

[uponit7771]

22. Greedy rich tell us what we want to watch so few get educated on their economic interest

[baldguy]

25. Only greedy filthy rich who are ignorant & short-sighted vote Republican.

Smart economic parasites want a healthy, robust, productive economy to feed off of.

[demokatgurrl]

26. Yeah me neither but you know what?

I said the same thing back in 1980. I guess I am, as Bush the First said, "out of the mainstream".

[old mark]

27. "Half a brain" in the OP is the key.

Republicans since Newt have gone overboard to attract the stupid and scared. They realized there are a lot nore of them than there are of the swinish rich, and they all can vote.
Please remember that 100 is the AVERAGE IQ.
Republicans went for those with lowest possible mentality who were still able to vote. They scared them with bullshit, made them feel better with more bullshit, elected GWB president.

mark

[Overseas]

28. Didn't you hear? John Sidney McCain III is a maverick.

Son and grandson of admirals, second marriage to an heiress, is just a friendly decent guy who will do things differently because golly gee, he's a maverick.

[PresidentObama]

31. Don't worry mtnsnake, more and more Americans are coming to the same reality we already knew.

Independents and moderate Republicans, mainly.

They're seeing the same reality that we need a Democratic President, and change.

We aren't going to get that with John McCain.

Four more years of Bush isn't what this country needs. And I think a growing number of Americans are waking up, and smelling the coffee. Four to eight years to late, but hey...