I miss Hillary Clinton

[PresidentObama]

There I said it.

I was at my hometown's PRIDEFEST looking at all the booths and vendors when I saw an old friend from four years ago with an Obama pin and clipboard in hand. We met volunteering in 04' for Kerry, and started talking. I signed up to volunteer, and somehow that launched into a conversation about whether Kerry was a good nominee in 2004 or not. I'm sure by my name here on DU, you know which side I took.

Anyway, we were talking when out of the corner of my mind I saw a lesbian couple both with Hillary for President shirts on. They came by us, and smiled. I said nice shirts ladies, and let them go on their way to enjoy the rest of the festivities.

It got me thinking. I miss Hillary.

She ran a great campaign, and despite all the bad things felt towards her...she ran for all the right reasons. We should all be proud of her and Bill Clinton's commitment to winning in November, and to making sure we get the kinds of changes this country so desperately needs.

Even if Obama doesn't pick Hillary for VP, I hope she has a large capacity in the years to come. She's one of the most passionate and tenacious leaders our party has.

My hat's off to Hillary, and I hope she's enjoying her time off.

The Senate is a better place with Hillary Rodham Clinton there.

The Clintons... :yourock:

OH, and GOBAMA!

[NYC_SKP]

1. She'll be back!

This had to be the most brutal, never-ending, exhausting effort ever experienced by any candidate.

Not many human beings could have sustained that kind of effort.

She's taking a well deserved break.

I miss her too, but she'll be back soon.


:hi:

[PresidentObama]

2. That she will. I hope her, Bill and Chelsea enjoy their long deserved break.

The Clintons are a class act!

[quantass]

9. ..And Obama is STILL going through it...Mr. Energizer Bunny!

[LVjinx]

54. I hope so, things have gotten a bit dull without her mixing it up some.

[ram2008]

3. I miss her too.

I'll admit it I miss her, but not for the same reasons as you.

The general election campaign just seems so boring so far. John McCain puts everyone to sleep and he's just not exciting at all, its almost as if Obama is an unfair match against McCain, Obama and Hillary are just so much better. At least with Hillary you'd never know what you would get the next day, and even if she would piss you off it was exciting and unexpected.

I miss all the drama- the drama between Obama and McCain is just blah.

[PresidentObama]

5. McCain is absolutely horrible.

Remember in 2004 when Bush had a general theme of "I'm consistent, he's not. I can keep you safer, he can't" and how the Bush campaign basically controlled the day-to-day media cycles?

McCain can't do that. He sucks.

His campaign puts him in front of horrible backgrounds and watches as he butchers speech after speech.

This guy sucks. At least that moron Bush had a campaign with real strategy! Even though it's horrible Rove's playbook: Play on fear, lie, spread hate, lie some more, and smear the other guy! Oh, and lie again.

[RNdaSilva]

50. Agree...

saves the typing.

[MasonJar]

4. I miss Hillary! She is a beautiful woman and a fine leader.

[AllentownJake]

6. She's taking a break

A well earned one.

Look to be seeing alot of her starting Friday campaigning accross the country not only for Obama but congressional candidates and govenors accross the country.

She has issues she wants addressed in this country and the only way that happens is with a democratic congress and President. She'll be working very hard till November.

[PresidentObama]

7. I would love for her to take the route of John Kerry after losing, and focus on electing Democrats.

After losing in 2004, Kerry put his name value and resources to good use and helped elect Democrats in 2006!

I'd love for Senator Clinton put her name and resources to use for the same cause!

She's classy, I know she will.

She'll be a powerful tool for Dems in 08'!

[AllentownJake]

13. She will

She's a grown-up and her personal ambitions I think are not a priority anymore. If anything she's more free than any other time in her life since law school. Bill isn't running for anything ever again. She isn't anytime soon (If Barack loses the only way she can run is if she helped him and other candidates this year plus she needs to work on her liberal creds), and she has a safe seat in a very blue state. She can be who she is without any political calculations.

[Clintonista2]

8. You seem to have a multiple personality disorder

I remember you being extremely nasty towards both Clintons during the primary.

[PresidentObama]

11. Accusing me of mental health issues? Classy....

And you didn't get heated and say some unkind things about Barack Obama?

I know I did, when I supported Edwards.

I remember one time I vowed I wouldn't support him because he bashed a 527 for supporting Edwards, and claiming Edwards didn't walk the walk.

It's called the heat of the moment. And you aren't 100% perfect, are you?

[Clintonista2]

21. I didn't accuse, I stated.

You supported edwards and trashed Hillary&Obama nonstop, and then you supported Hillary and bashed Obama nonstop, and then you supported Obama and trashed Hillary nonstop. You're either Calteacherguy reincarnated, or you have multiple personality disorder.

[PresidentObama]

22. Question, do you support Obama now? And if so, did you bash him at one point?

Heat of the moment.

Look up the phrase.

John Edwards and Hillary Clinton both bashed Obama at one point. Does that mean they have multiple personality disorder for supporting him?

[Clintonista2]

26. I support the democratic nominee, that doesn't mean I *suddenly* approve of everything hes ever done

In fact, I still disapprove of everything about him that I disapproved of during the primaries. Unlike you, I don't suddenly change my entire world view depending on which candidate I'm supporting.

[PresidentObama]

27. Nor do I. I supported Hillary, and Obama. My heart still lie in the policies and platform of Edwards

And glad to hear you're supporting the nominee.

[Clintonista2]

30. Yet depending on which candidate you supported, your world view changed

When you supported Obama, everything Hillary ever did was pure evil. Now your second personality is stepping in to talk about how much you miss her. Give me a break :eyes:

[PresidentObama]

33. Are you always this bitchy?

Negative posts, is that all you make?

Did I say some things in the heat of the moment? Yes, sure did.

So did Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd and Joe Biden.

Why aren't you accusing them of multiple personalities?

Seriously though, who pissed in your cheerios?

And while I questioned their tactics during the campaign at times and spoke out when I felt they were wrong, I've always supported the Clintons. I did so in 2006 when some of my fellow Kerry supporters said the Clintons wanted Kerry to lose in 2004, and I called it as it was--bullshit. I did it again that same year when more Kerry supporters said bashing the legacy of Bill Clinton. I did it again during the primary when I support Edwards and was bashing Bill Clinton for his tactics, but I defended his legacy with the "I miss Bill Clinton" thread to remind people what his legacy was.

So don't give me this B.S.

I've seen quite a few Clinton posters change their avatars to Obama, and start posting nothing but great things about our nominee and this campaign. I don't see you bashing them for multiple personalities.

[Clintonista2]

34. That's because *they* can support Obama without having to trash Clinton

You, on the other hand, can't support one candidate without bashing the candidate that you previously supported. It's not the changing of support that I find hilarious, its the way you suddenly bash everything that you once supported about the old candidate.

[PresidentObama]

42. Criticism isn't trashing, you need to learn the difference.

[Marrah_G]

61. You have that one pegged !

Some people just thrive on attention and the need to "belong".

[greguganus]

10. I miss her like I miss an ingrown toenail. There I said it. n/t

[PresidentObama]

12. She did more for the Democratic party than you ever will. There I said it. n/t

[greguganus]

14. She did more to divide the party than I ever will. There I said it. n/t

[PresidentObama]

15. Her concession did more to unify the party than anyone. There I said it. n/t

[greguganus]

16. Can't argue with you there, except she should of conceded long time ago. Seeya! n/t

[PresidentObama]

18. She didn't have to concede anything, despite what you or I thought.

And I called on her to drop out months before she did.

[LVjinx]

51. Allegedly.

[JoFerret]

28. You said it - but why and who cares

is yet to be decided.

But your comment keeps this wonderfully positive thread kicked. So thanks.

[rusty quoin]

17. I think we have all come together nicely. I was afraid we wouldn't, but we did. K&R

[musicblind]

19. I miss her too

Great post. I hope that she is Obama's VP. If not, I will understand, and then I hope Edwards or Biden is Obama's VP.

But I do miss Hillary, she is such a classy lady. So beautiful both inside and out. She really does CARE about our country. When she cried in NH I beleived it, because you can't really fake something like that... not with her lack of charisma. She really thought she would be the best president to help America and was in it for our country.

Now she is showing this even more so by doing the right thing and backing Obama (another great candidate) so he can be our president in November and put right what has been wrong for so long. She understands why this is important as much as the rest of us do.


GoBama!
GoMama!

We're gonna win this one!

[sandyj999]

20. I Miss Her Too. n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. ugh

[Catherine Vincent]

24. I miss her but I really miss Bill.

I'm wearing my "I MISS BILL" t-shirt right now:

[PresidentObama]

25. I want one of those buttons that say that.

Where do they sell them?

[Catherine Vincent]

29. I bought mine from the Clinton Presidential Center in Little Rock.

But I'm sure you can find it online somewhere.

[1Hippiechick]

73. CafePress

http://buttons.cafepress.com/i-miss-bill

[Erin Elizabeth]

31. I'm not at this point yet.

I had quite a bit of respect for her before the primaries. During the primaries, it went downhill fast, to the point that I actively loathed her and didn't trust her any further than I could throw her.

Now, I don't actively loathe her. I still don't trust her and am not sure I ever will again. But the negativity is fading. I'm glad.

Maybe someday I'll be at the point you're at now. Maybe not. That was a very ugly thing that went on for months and months and months.

[LVjinx]

52. At some point, should you decide to look back, you might that much of the ugliness was pure fiction.

[Erin Elizabeth]

74. Well. I kind of doubt that. But eventually what will happen

is I might FORGET some of the ugliness.

It doesn't matter now, anyway.

[blogslut]

32. She's over here, in this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6400206

[Tutonic]

35. She's got some fence mending to do in the African American

community. More than any other group, AAs got thrown under the bus and run over again at every stop. She may have run for the right reason but ultimately I believe that a fair analysis would preclude that she ran a campaign that was not inclusive to all Democrats. If race is now a factor, I believe that Clinton opened further a door that was already ajar.

[JoFerret]

78. Nah

.

[muffin1]

36. I do, too

But like she said, you will always find her on the front lines, fighting for all of us.

[beachmom]

37. She is coming back NEXT WEEK. That Hill article was incorrect:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/beyond/2008/06/clinton-returns-next-week-but.html

Clinton Returns Next Week, But Won't be Just Another Senator
By David Nather | June 20, 2008 2:21 PM | Permalink | Comments (2)

Two weeks after suspending her campaign for the presidency, Hillary Rodham Clinton is set to return to the Senate next week, guaranteeing a frenzy of media attention to her every move as she adjusts to something like the routine of an average senator.

It won't be routine for a while, of course. But she'll be back on the Hill next week, according to a Senate Democratic aide, putting to rest reports that she wouldn't return until after the July 4 recess. That impression was shared, until today, by some in the leadership.

The details haven't been announced, but Clinton's return, coming after two weeks in which she has stayed virtually out of sight, is sure to be a high-profile one. She'll be trailed by media mobs and camera crews, and she'll pressed to talk about her own future in the Senate, as well as answer all the obvious questions about what kind of role she'll have in Barack Obama's campaign.

The Obama campaign announced this morning that Obama and Clinton will campaign together at an event on June 27, a week from today, heightening the intrigue.



GOOD for her.

[PresidentObama]

40. Great. The Senate is a better place with her there.

[me b zola]

48. What a bunch of crap

"The Senate is a better place with her there."

Sweet Jesus, this is the Senator who is advocating the same privatization of social security as the republicans have been advocating for almost two years.

Hillary is a freaking poser and charlatan. Quit trying to pass her off to decent people as someone who gives a crap about them.

We have a nominee, and it's not queen hrc.

[murbley40]

70. I have to believe .......

that all Obama supporters are not as ugly and vile as most of those on DU. The only thing that I can think of that Hillary could do that would pass muster with you would be to curl up in a corner and die. Then she would probably not do that to suit you either! Your candidate is far wiser than you are, He knows that he needs Hillary's support and that of her lowly supporters also.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

38. she is still here

[Catchawave]

39. She gave a commencement speech today....

http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=82947

[cui bono]

41. Miss her or not, you can't be serious that she ran a great campaign.

That was her biggest downfall, a TERRIBLE campaign. Plenty of people have called it the worst run campaign in history. And that's not even counting the nastiness of it, that's just tactics and strategy. I certainly do not miss having to hear her latest BS every day attacking a fellow Dem. She blew a sure thing and deservedly so after her horrendous behavior.

[MonkeyFunk]

46. It couldn't have been that terrible

she got 18 million votes and it wasn't until the last day of the primaries that her opponent secured the nomination, with the help of superdelegates.

[snooper2]

63. And she still lost...

All the money, name, power of Washington, the media's "presumptive nominee" for a year, and...nope, she lost to the new guy. It should have been a landslide.... :rofl:



But, that is the past, the old way of doing things...Time to put the past behind and look towards the future...

No more Plutocracy...



IT's OBAMA TIME!

[LVjinx]

53. Eventually, someone will look at the race objectively, and a different storyline may emerge.

[StevieM]

71. It was never a sure thing, and it is silly IMO to call it the worst run campaign in history.

People who say that generally don't like Hillary and want to belittle her as much as possible. She never had the same advantages as a sitting president or vice-president. She had some advantages, Obama had others. Hillary was a front-runner who didn't win, same as a whole lot of other front runners.

The talk of "horrendous behavior" and "nastiness" is not born out by the facts of history. Obama got plenty nasty at times, and a comparison of her criticisms of Obama to other primaries (Gore vs. Bradley) does not indicate a significantly harsher tone from Clinton. People who say she behaved horrendously are generally hard-core Obama supporters who saw the worst when their preferred candidate was under fire.

I thought Hillary had a lot of great moments as a candidate. Winning NH after losing Iowa, holding on to win TX and OH when most other candidates would have been swept away by the momentum. I give her a lot of credit and I respect her immensely.

Steve

[zulchzulu]

43. You've obviously made up this story!

:evilgrin:

There. I said it.

[highplainsdem]

44. I miss her, too.

[Rowdyboy]

45. I really like Hillary Clinton but I don't miss her....

She is brilliant, unstoppable, demanding, effective and genuine. Had she been the nominee, I have no doubt she would have been the first female president. But when she was losing I saw a side of the Clintons that left me unimpressed, a meanness that left me uncomfortable.

She is forever a part of history-the first female candidate who ever had a legitimate claim on the nomination, however, I see very few advantages to adding her to the ticket at this point. I can only pray that she plays a MAJOR roll in the health care debate we face over the next few years.

Most of all I'm really glad we're on the same side-I'd hate to have her as my enemy.

[Arugula Latte]

47. I don't miss her at all, but I do know what it feels like to mourn for a period when your candidate

does not make the final cut. Been there...It's tough.

[Beacool]

49. I miss her too and the campaign.

I miss her enthusiasm and positive attitude, no matter how the media trashed her or if she was down on a poll, she always kept looking on the upside of things. She's a terrific lady who has been vilified as much by the left as by the right.

I also miss my campaign buddies, even though we call each other all the time.

The senate may be a better place with her in it, but so is the White House and I haven't given up the hope that some day she'll be back, and this time SHE will be the one sitting in the Oval office.

[Inspired]

55. Clinton? Not so much. I do miss Edwards though.

[PresidentObama]

67. I miss John, too!

[Colobo]

56. I miss her fighting spirit, to be frank.

She made the whole thing competitive and interesting.

[Marrah_G]

57. Excuse me a moment................

:eyes:

[BeyondGeography]

58. I don't

[JVS]

59. Nice post.

[Faygo Kid]

60. She did not run a "great campaign."

I look forward to her enthusiastic support of Barack Obama.

Enough said for now.

[DemExpat]

62. Great post! I miss her too.

:kick:

DemEx

[Phx_Dem]

64. I truly wish

I could say the same.

[azmouse]

65. I don't.

I'm so thankful this ended with Obama the nominee. Couldn't stand Hillary then, can't stand her now.

[book_worm]

66. well I'm glad the primaries are over and we are focusing on McCain.

[SeaLyons]

68. I miss Hillary too

and I can't wait to see the two of them together on Friday.

[demokatgurrl]

69. Great post. And I'm changing my mind on something too...

I didn't think she'd be the best pick for him for VP. But now I think he's gonna need her. Once MoveOn figures out who he really is (and this is NOT a put-down of Obama, because I voted for him in the primary- the difference is, I KNEW who I was voting for.)
He's a middle-of-the road Democrat, very much like Clinton (in fact, some would argue with some credibility, slightly to the right of Clinton). She could actually balance him by being a bit to the left.

I know you all probably think that's crazy but just wait.

[shadowknows69]

72. I miss her like that case of crabs I got once

[Truthfulone]

75. There's no drama without Hillary

The GE is a tad boring without her. Journalists don't hate anyone else as much.

[polichick]

76. Wonder where they've been vacationing.

[mtnsnake]

77. I hope she's enjoying her time off, too. The Goddess of Peace fought herself into near exhaustion

and she surely deserves a break from it all, especially after coming out on the losing end. She and Obama expended more energy than 300 million of John McCain's proposed new batteries. Let's hope Obama can get a little rest, too, before going at it full tilt again.