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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:38 PM
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Olbermann & Matthews Hardblog on Malkin / Thurlow Interviews
Olbermann ....
Michelle Malkin, the unfortunate and overmatched author of a self-loathing book that attempts to justify our World War II internment and robbery of Americans of Japanese heritage, became the harbinger of the next mucky smell of low tide. She raised the story— heretofore consigned largely to Robert Novak and everybody to his right— in that delightful, Teflon way of modern politics: ‘I’m not saying that John Kerry shot himself. But in the Swift Boat Veterans’ book, they ask whether or not his wounds were self-inflicted.’

If Ms. Malkin isn’t seen on television, or moving on her own power, in the next few days, it’s understandable. My colleague Mr. Matthews forced her to hang herself out to dry ten or eleven times (never prouder of you, Chris). He may have directed the momentum, but her wounds were ultimately, uh, self-inflicted.

Matthews...
One of my jobs on 'Hardball' is to cut through to the truth. Tonight on 'Hardball,' one of our guests pushed the idea that John Kerry had won his Purple Heart by deliberately shooting himself. The charge was without merit and baseless, as our guest under close questioning herself admitted.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5445086/


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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:49 PM
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1. Olbermann's is a good read.
That self inflicted wounds shit is a gold mine for us if they actually try to use it. It will show just how delusional those Short Bus Vets are.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 09:06 AM
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12. Olbermann's a top-notch writer. . .
while Chris was short, sweet, and to the point. They're both my Must-See TV!
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:52 PM
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2. Just watched Tweety smack down that POS Malkin.
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 10:52 PM by stopbush
I think that these liars are really pissing him off, partially due to the fact that Tweet's brother was in the Navy. For a POS like Malkin to suggest that Kerry had "self-inflicted wounds" was, as Tweety said on the spot, irresponsible.

This Vietnam focus may well end the bush campaign. They are such slime rakers, always have been. But this is below the pale.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:20 PM
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8. I don't believe you can get shrapnel
from a bullet. Something metal has to be shattered and a piece flies off. If he shot himself it would have been a bullet wound. Her statement was ridiculous and she should have been ashamed of herself. What an airhead.
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:52 PM
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3. Racism, coming from a racial minority is very interesting -
and hard to fathom. Back in the '60s, I was a college student and I rented an apartment in Los Angeles from a Japanese couple. The man told me his sad story about being sent to an internment camp during WWII. I felt very bad for him. Later, a friend who was a Negro (as African Americans were called at the time) visited me. As soon as he left, the old man knocked on my door and told me that he didn't want any "colored boys" in my apartment. I told him I would have anyone I wanted over and he could not stop me. I still almost can't believe people like that don't learn by their own experience. Maybe Michelle needs to spend some time in Utah in a wire enclosure without adequate facilities or medical care and without knowing if she will ever get out. Think she would get it then?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:54 PM
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4. Amazingly unbelieveable that a barely wet behind the ears
self appointed "author" can divine from the allegations of a handful of screwed up, passive aggressive lying veterans that John Kerry shot himself for future political aspirations.

This young woman doesn't even appear to be old enough to have lived during the Nam era. For all the pain that people suffered during that time, I am in awe of the attitude of this piece of shit for a female and any of her fellow travelers.

She should be slapped.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:01 PM
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5. she's from the scaife-ett school...
....of over-promoted bimbos.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:21 PM
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9. She has a case of self-infliected bitch
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:11 PM
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6. unfortunately, Olberman has to grope for balance at the end
by bringing up the baseless charge that those investigating the obviously questionable holes in Bush's guard record:

"It is a perfected version of what many of President Bush’s opponents have tried in the murky depths of his reservist days. It is execrable no matter who presents it, no matter which party benefits from it. "

you might want to visit a few sites that explain it in simple English, Keith, like you'd have benefitted the last two days from Snopes, re: WJC's phantom haircut, and realistic analysis of poll methodology regarding the proKerry swing voters who shifte away from him based on the swift boat ads
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:17 PM
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7. I saw Cris vs Malken live, on the 7 pm "Hardball."
Then I retired to my newly-scored Monte Cristo #5s and a big glass of port (on the screen porch of the mountain cabin). I puffed and sipped and day-dreamed with two loving dogs at my feet for nearly three hours.

A few minutes ago I came back in to re-fill my cup and switched on the TV. Voila! There was Cris (or is it Chris?) on the re-run with Christine Malken. As I poured I watched closely. I think he kicked her off the set. I said that before, but I am convinced of it now. She did not come back with Willie Brown after the break.

Anyway, as a Vietnam Vet and a former Awards & Decorations officer in Vietnam, I am horrified by her disingenuous innuendo. Who the hell is she, anyway?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 05:03 AM
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10. Feedback? hardball@msnbc.com, countdown@msnbc.com
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 05:22 AM
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11. Olberman was great last night
At the end of his part 5 story, commenting on the idea that Kerry had "staged" his the action that lead to his bronze star, ended with "nice of the Viet Cong to help out with that shrapnel in his leg."

This guy is a weird excuse for a news reader, but he is one of the few independent and unconstrained voices on cable news.

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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 09:35 AM
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13. The MM 'Hardball' flap reminds me of Charlton Heston's BFC interview
by Michael Moore. Like Heston, Malkin is enfeebled--she speaks in an affectless zombie-like mental-case monotone, and Heston reeks of senility. Like Michael Moore, Chris Mathews goes into overdrive when a nutball says something completely outrageous in a weak voice. Remember the TV-commercial 'Fishing Lure' that was said to mimic the movement of dying fish, driving trout and bass into feeding frenzy? Well Michaeil Moore is a trout, Chris Mathews is a bass, and Heston and Malkin are feeding-frenzy bait.

IMO many of those 'deeply offended' by Mathews' interview--beyond the usual screw-loose right-wingers feigning outrage--are speaking from misplaced chivalry. IMO Mathews acted incredibly responsibly, refusing to allow his show to be used to escalate outrageous SwiftSmears one more notch without careful examination. What Malkin said about a "self-inflicted" wound plumbed new depths to which even Corsi, Perry, and company had not yet sunk.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 11:44 AM
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14. Tweet could have acted even more responsibly by checking
Edited on Fri Aug-20-04 11:45 AM by stopbush
Malkin's history before the show. Maybe he would have passed on even booking such a disgusting, certifiable whackjob.

On the other hand, Tweet's had many, many RW whackjobs on his show in the past. He probably viewed Malkin the way he viewed his vote for bush in 2000, ie: how bad can it be? Well, he found out the hardball, er, hard way just how bad the newest wave of Scaife-funded whackos can be.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 11:56 AM
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15. I hope the Real Time crowd..Bill Maher et al..
got a load of Chris Matthews and Olberman sizing michelle up right.

They were a little more gentle with her but she didn't come off looking any better!!
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 01:23 PM
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16. The segment with her is being repeated on C-SPAN 1
now. She is supposed to be yakking for her book and all the callers and Brian are talking about is her appearance on "Hardball". And all she is doing is whining. :nopity: :cry: :nopity: :cry: :cry: Oh, poor baby! You know, sweetie-if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. A typical no sympathy, no empathy repug spokesmodel. She fails to see that in a different world, on a different day, she might have been part of a round-up or the prejudice that she agrees with.
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