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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:50 AM
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McCain: "I always loved my wife, until I was deprived of her company and she was disfigured"
Strange how that worked in the opposite manner for his country.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:54 AM
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1. I'm still trying to figure out why he joined the military if he didn't love his country.
Oh, wait--his military career was paved for him by Dad and Grampa--the family business. Had nothing to do with truly wanting to serve, apparently.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:57 AM
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2. A bigger question is why didn't someone born into the height of American privilege love his country?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:07 AM
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4. Right--he couldn't have had more reasons to love and appreciate America.
America, after all, treated him right from Day One.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:10 AM
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7. Wait a second -- John Sidney McCain III is supposed to be a maverick
You're not supposed to notice the silver spoon. It's Obama that's supposed to be the elitist.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:58 AM
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3. Kinda sheds a new light on his academic performace at the Naval Academy, huh?
All the reports we've read about his military service, such as that he liked flying "well enough", suggest that his heart wasn't really in it.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:09 AM
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5. Yep--I think he was just joining the "family business", because the door was open for him.
He certainly wasn't a very good student OR pilot.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:18 AM
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6. Though I understand your heart not being into joining the military...
Your heart not being into your country is something I don't understand.

For all of my bitching and moaning, cynicism and threatening to move to Canada, I have always loved my country deeply. My family did a very good job of making those associations early.

Family = country
Home = country
Opportunity = country

I find it profoundly curious, that for all of their heralded service, that these sentiments weren't clear in the McCain family. Perhaps the pressure of "duty" was more prominent than the "love"?
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:35 AM
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8. McShame was ranked a lowly 894 out of 899 at Annapolis
and yet got to fly fighter jets? That takes some major influence. He was another frat boy, a Tailhooker, riding grampa's and dad's legacies, then milking the POW experience for all it's worth. He will just be an annoying memory in early November.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:58 AM
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11. I know it sounds like an awful and taboo thing to say, but I seriously
believe he'd be nowhere without his POW experience. Turned out to be the best political-career- launcher ever, unintentional and awful as it was. I know, you're all recoiling with disgust, but I don't care--that's how I see it, in all honesty. He was mediocre (at best) in his pursuits both before and after those years.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:59 AM
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12. I think the fact that he resigned a week after his father passed away is important here
Don't you think?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 12:08 PM
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13. He resigned his commission as soon as Daddy died? Yeah, that's pretty telling.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 12:53 PM
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14. Kerry hated the Vietnam war and loved his country enough to volunteer anyway.
Republicans just don't get what it really means to love one's country - they've been bullshitting so long they don't recognize even the most blatant truths anymore.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:38 AM
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9. Did he actually say that quote?
I have not seen that -- if so -- wow. LINK so I can torture the freepers in my life?
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 01:00 PM
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15. No...But he actions did show it.
He dumped her like the flu when he got back and she may not of been pretty enough to him anymore. So being a POW affected the way he loved more than one thing I guess.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 01:03 PM
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16. You made it up?
I know I'm brand new around here, but I seriously do not understand the point of making something like this up. There are so many REAL things to beat McCain with that I don't think we need to take this kind of tactic.

And if I understand Barack Obama's wishes correctly, then he clearly does not want this kind of campaign.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 01:59 PM
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17. A poor attempt at satire, by extrapolating from a recent and popular quote McCain made...
McCain said something like, "I did not love my country until I was deprived of her company".

During such deprivation, he lost his love for his wife (who was disfigured in a car wreck at this time). He divorced her upon returning.

Anyone familiar with the situation, and the controversial quote that everyone is talking about, would of noticed my OP is clearly not an attempt to fabricate a dirty quote McCain made, but rather a poor attempt at satire and humor (using his real quote and history as a basis).

No, Im not implying McCain factually said that, and perhaps I should of indicated it at the time. I assumed most people would "get" it.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:32 PM
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21. Aha - well, I admit, I've been satire impaired in the past.
I think the quotes threw me off. :)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:05 PM
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19. Or maybe he had PTSD when he got back
and it effected his ability to have a healthy relationship. You don't know. I'm all for Obama but really, fuck anyone for judging how someone reacts to being held and tortured. You're not doing Obama any favors.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:11 PM
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20. If we are playing maybes...Maybe its his screwed up PTSD head that is making him finally love the US
Anyone can make up a theory now. And Im not downplaying the gravity of PTSD by saying that...

He gets a pass for not loving his wife due to being a POW, but yet he touts being a POW as that which made him love his country? Its lovely to have your cake and eat it too.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:50 PM
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23. Did PTSD force him to chase after and have a blatant affair with Cindy for a year ...
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 06:51 PM by gauguin57
... with his disabled wife sitting at home ... after he had told people he wanted to get into politics (and saw this rich, much-younger blonde as his ticket) ... when he finally wore Cindy down, he immediately divorced his wife, married Cindy, and used her money for his first congressional campaign.

PTSD? Perhaps? Typical testosterone-fueled mid-life crisis? Certainly.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:52 AM
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10. If he didnt say those words, those words shouldnt be in quotes attributed to him.
These days, you never can tell.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:00 PM
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18. It was a thought bubble,
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:46 PM
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22. Source?
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