Cindy McCain did not want John to run for president either time-

[Bluerthanblue]

Especially this time-

Cindy, meanwhile, had her own reservations, initially saying no to both of Senator McCain's presidential runs. "If I agreed, I wanted to do the best job for my country, and this time — it's been such an emotional year — I was balancing so much: My mother died in October...my son going to Iraq...having just recouped from my 2004 stroke" — a recovery she handled with customary grit. (The stroke was a result of Cindy's having stopped taking her blood-pressure medication.) "I could have died. It was scary. It was very scary. To get well, I knew I had to be alone, stop taking care of everybody else. So I rented a house in California, announcing, 'I'm parking there until I put myself together.' And for four months, I slept, walked to build up my stamina. Eventually my speech returned. Eight months after my stroke, I ran in a marathon."

Until John said "Something SO lovely":

When it came to the 2008 presidential marathon, however, it was Senator McCain who sealed the deal. "John said something so lovely," she recalls, adding quickly, "from his perspective, I don't believe it myself. He said: 'I think you could bring style, grace, and elegance back to the White House.' Those words had never come out of his mouth before," she laughs. "And I thought, That's how he sees me. Knowing he believes in me that way gives me a great deal of strength.

"And he'd be the best president. Every day in his heart and mind, John lives the code of conduct — duty, honor, country — which I admire. I always told the kids: 'Daddy's on a mission, serving his country. We have to be supportive.' And he's never been neglectful of our family. Naturally, there were times I wish, like every wife, he'd been home more...that he'd sit down, hold my hand, say, 'I'm sorry, honey,' but I respect his dedication. John's a real patriot."

This article is pretty revealing if you take the time to really digest it- and then check out some of the 'facts'-

http://www.harpersbazaar.com/magazine/feature-articles/cindy-mccain-0707

The McCain's family life is relevant- when they use it to promote his 'fitness' for the position of POTUS.
Facts, not gossip or innuendo.

peace~

[polichick]

1. Style, grace and elegance???

That's the best thing he's ever said to her? She ought to dump that guy asap.

[tridim]

Well, it is better than calling her a C*nt. nt

[polichick]

10. Except it was pure manipulation - McSame is a sexist asshole...

...make that a sexist prick!

[Bluerthanblue]

14. pretty sad eh? all those

things are pretty superficial- like a prize show dog, or nice 'specimen'-

It also struck me as sad that what 'turned' her was not some kind of "we really understand where the country is going wrong-"
or- "I think we can really make a difference for the country" it was about the way things would ...look.

(that is what my perspective interpreted this as)

I'm learning more and more, that the wealthy may have life 'easer'- they often don't have the fullness and contentment (even fleeting) I've been fortunate enough to have tasted.

peace~

[polichick]

18. You're right, it is sad - she's wealthy on the outside, starving on the inside.

[Fleshdancer]

2. I wonder why she stopped taking her blood pressure meds

I had no idea that was what caused her stroke.

[City Lights]

23. I wonder that as well.

Seems like an odd thing to do. It's not like she stopped taking them because she couldn't afford them.

[Bluerthanblue]

24. maybe side-effects? But

you'd think she wouldn't just quit taking them.

Ususally people stopping BP meds are monitored.

:shrug:

The trouble with manipulating truth, is that it makes even genuine truth suspect.

peace~

[Fleshdancer]

27. she stopped because she thought she was too young

I kid you not: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-041408-cindy-mccain-stroke,0,2287002.story

[City Lights]

29. I hadn't thought of side effects. Makes sense, but I would expect someone

in her situation to consult with her physician to switch meds rather than just stop taking them.

One other possibility I hadn't thought of until now is depression. I don't know whether she's ever been treated for depression, but suffering from depression could cause someone to stop taking their meds.

[MarjorieG]

34. So many warning signs-neediness, extreme thinness, and a husband who doesn't seem too attentive.

Contrast with the amazingly confident and likable Michelle, who people are draw to. Is Cindy up to this?

[Fleshdancer]

26. holy hell. I googled the subject and found the STUPID reason:

so f*cking idiotic:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-041408-cindy-mccain-stroke,0,2287002.story

McCain had high blood pressure—the primary cause for strokes—and she wouldn't take her medicine, thinking that, at 49, she was just too young to need it.

"It was a hell of a lesson to learn," she said of the medical scare that put her in intensive care for two weeks.

:banghead:

[City Lights]

30. OMG! Cindy McCain: Too stupid to be First Lady!

:wtf:

[Fleshdancer]

31. I KNOW! I had to read the article 3 times to believe it!

We were all thinking maybe it had to do with side effects when really it was about vanity.

Too young at 49 to not need blood pressure medicine after your doctor tells you your blood pressure is too high and that you need to go on blood pressure medicine? Wow. May I never be that conflicted about getting older.

[Bluerthanblue]

32. geez- now which is it- that she WAS on medication that she

stopped suddenly- or that she suffered the stroke as a result of untreated HBP?

Either way it isn't very smart- but there is a difference between being too bull-headed to take meds until you get 'struck'-
and making the dangerous decision to just quit BP meds suddenly.

:shrug:

She's very fortunate she didn't die- or suffer permanent damage.

peace~

[Fleshdancer]

38. good question....

The article doesn't go into detail, but I'm under the impression that she just didn't take the meds prescribed to her. Hard to know for sure though. Either way, it wasn't very smart and you're right - she's damn lucky she didn't die or suffer permanent damage.

[SoCalDem]

3. Wealth v Ambition

Ambition trumps wealth

[PresidentObama]

4. So basically he'd rather run despite his wife having a tough year, and feed her a line of bullshit.

And this is the same guy who left his first wife because what was it? She wasn't pretty anymore?

[City Lights]

25. And the same guy whose wife says lives by a code of conduct that supposedly

includes duty and honor. What a pant load.

[PresidentObama]

36. Is this before or after the drugs?

[tishaLA]

5. she frankly sounds pathetic

and her little "endearing" stories about McGrumpy are deliciously passive aggressive.

[polichick]

6. She had the right idea with that rented house in California...

He never even said, "I'm sorry honey." Why do women like her enable creeps like him?

[Bluerthanblue]

21. Co-dependency?- I don't

think she really has much self-esteem. From everything I've read and heard from her own words- her value as a person is her looks, and her wealth.

She isn't alone, many people struggle with this. But I find it terribly sad, and until we reject this as 'role-models' it won't change.

Michelle seems to have a very healthy sense of her own value- being with Barack enhances them both, rather than one needing the other to make them ...ok.

IMO-

peace~

[monmouth]

7. She sounds very "needy" to me, he sort of flatters her and she's gaga...Yuck..n/t

[whistle]

8. Of course she wouldn't, she is a felon and does not want the spotlight

[bunnies]

9. Thats how he sees you?!

:rofl: Not what I heard!

[NatBurner]

11. if you can't say anything nice...

...yeah

no comment

[Zynx]

12. "Hey, you cunt, stop looking like a trollop and get campaigning!"

Was that it?

[AlCzervik]

13. ooohhhh, so he thinks Pickles has no style or grace? Love it.

Zing!

[Bluerthanblue]

16. duh- I missed that

:silly:

Laura wouldn't appreciate this article much.

peace~

[AlCzervik]

17. i think the line was the money shot. Love it!

[Barack_America]

20. Yep. I noticed that too.

Uh-oh.

[Born_A_Truman]

15. Yes...

Live apart and vacation twice a year. Her parents helped her with the young children while he was in WDC. He wasn't aware she was using drugs until she told him (according to her). Read between the lines and it isn't a happy, loving marriage. Compare it to Barack and Michelle and it really sucks.

Of course she spins the whole drug thing. Never mentions they came from her charity or that the guy she fired turned her into the feds and she got a sweetheart deal that was kept secret until his wrongful termination lawsuit. Good stuff in that article and wiki about her as well.

[Barack_America]

19. Let me get this straight...he was so supportive after her stroke she decided she'd rather be alone?

And he tells her once (when he's angling to get something) that he thinks she's elegant and graceful?

He sounds like a great guy.

[Bluerthanblue]

28. I don't like a lot that I've read about this

"picture book" couple.

And so many people seem to look at the surface, consume the made for TV sound-bites, and think they 'know' someone.

peace~

[Catherina]

22. Oh puleeeeze Cindy. Enough with the Vicodin fantasies n/t

[City Lights]

33. Very interesting and entertaining read!

Great stuff in there. They met when John chased her around the hors d'oeuvre table in his dress whites. The DUzy though, is that Cindy claims John is 70 going on 30! :rofl:

[RFKHumphreyObama]

35. Did she mean to take a shot at the Bush family here?

<He said: 'I think you could bring style, grace, and elegance back to the White House.'>

So, in other words, the McCains believe that the Bushes have lacked style, grace and elegance while they've been in the White House? I couldn't agree more but it's an interesting revelation considering the source

[Bluerthanblue]

37. good question- whether she did or not, I don't think

the Bushes would like hearing it.

:hi:

peace~