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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:55 PM
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So Ralph Reed on Charlie Rose thinks Joe Biden will get the VP nod.
I can't stant RR, but this was sorta interesting. Thoughts?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:57 PM
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1. i don't think he will pick Biden, but i would be happy with it
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:59 PM
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3. This is sort of fun; any thoughts on who Sen. Obama might pick? nt
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 12:04 AM
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4. i think Bill Richardson would be a great pic
he is Gov, brings in an important region that can help electorally . and an important voting group. plus he has foreign policy experience.

and while Richardson wasn't a good Presidential Candidate in the Primary. he has been very good representing Obama.

i think Jack Reed would be great also. someone low key but brings experience . for someone like Obama there is already enough "star power" on the ticket.

Biden ,Dodd are great also.

one that we haven't really talked about but i think would help is Richard Gephardt. he would help a lot with the lower income voters working class type voters that Hillary was winning with. he has labor credentials.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:26 AM
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13. Me too!
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:04 AM
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17. Dude, Gephardt
Thats fucking brilliant.

You know Obama is not going to pick anyone big and obvious, he's going to pull the guy/gal no one was expecting,
I could be wrong though
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 01:17 PM
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34. My choices are...
Biden,Webb or Clark but...I think that Biden has the fire that is needed. I believe that Webb doesn't act as if he wants it and Clark does but I think that he has to warm up to Obama and vice versa especially considering the Hillary situation.

Obama and Biden are closer and Biden always steps up right at the right time to fight the rightwing lies. Biden also knows the ins and outs of the government and foreign policy..
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:59 PM
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2. OK by me!
Joe Biden seems to be the most willing to tell it like it is, he's tough, and his experiences and skill set compliment Obama's.

I know many recommend executive experience, so I like Sebelius, and I like Webb, too.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 12:14 AM
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5. Joe Biden hasn't shown any ability
in either of his Presidential runs

to get people to vote for him.

I really don't see him in the VP slot.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:03 AM
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9. that is a problem and it is mostly his fundraising that doomed him
because his major base is DELAWARE. Nothing wrong with the 1st state but it is smaaaaaall. That is Biden's biggest weakness. But the guy is sharp, witty, and an excellent attack dog. I would love to see him as VP actually I just do not know if it will be possible.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:06 AM
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11. Oh yeah, Delaware sucks, it's a small state
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 01:07 AM by 48percenter
and Joe Biden hasn't done anything. :sarcasm:

You both are a couple of tools.

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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:25 AM
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28. a deep and thoughtful reply.
:sarcasm:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 07:39 AM
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32. Glad you enjoyed it.
C'ya! One moron for the ignore list, coming up.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 01:04 PM
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33. that's all it takes, huh?
what an asshole you are.

I'm proud to be on your "ignore" list.
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 12:23 AM
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6. I love Biden
and even got a chance to meet him here in Nevada before he dropped out of the race. I'd love to see him on the ticket but I don't think he'll be picked. Somehow I think Obama will lean towards picking a southerner - he has the chance to change some red/pink states blue in the south, and a southerner would really help in that respect.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 12:32 AM
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7. Ralph Reed
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 12:32 AM by Catherina
Now there's an authority :rofl:

:hi:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 05:46 AM
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21. Reed is used to spread misinformation. nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 12:33 AM
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8. How many electoral votes from Delaware?
And is that part of the Northeast or what?

If so, I don't think that Joe Biden brings as much as may be required in terms of voting groups, although I like him. I just think that a Jim Webb has more power in his punch to make an assist. As Well, General Clark.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:04 AM
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10. I think Biden would only help lock PA down. Delaware is v. linked with Philly
possibly help in OH too.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:24 AM
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12. I just can't see it...
I don't think Obama would choose Biden when he has such an array of interesting possibilities. Biden has a lot going for him, but he really doesn't bring anything to the table.

I'd like to see someone like Wes Clark.. someone more dynamic.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:27 AM
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14. Fuck him....we gonna listen to his crap??? I don't think so.. 1st Rule: Never Trust a PUB
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:32 AM
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15. It's easy for me .. I don't like Biden.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:46 AM
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16. He's definitely high up Obama's cabinet / V.P. list
Obama has made it clear that he wants Biden at the forefront of his campaign addressing foreign policy issues.
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:15 AM
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18. OBAMA, BIDEN, PETRAUS AGREE ON AGHANISTAN/PAKISTAN
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 02:18 AM by 27inCali
I remember Obama and Biden both make a point of saying they really saw eye to eye on foreign policy re: Afghanistan, Iran etc. during the early debates, apparently they see eye to eye with Petraus too. That Move On add was out of line, Petraus is smart, and a good soldier who couldn't criticize a sitting president while in uniform during wartime, we should give him some credits for saving a lot of lives, he realized that no one around chimpy was smart enough engage in diplomacy in Iraq, so he did it himself, and ofcoarse he's had to deal with the Devil, but it's saving lives, which is ultimately the progressive choice if stuck in his position: do your best to make peace, negotiate, save lives..... now he's in Afghanistan, because he wants to be there, he knows that Aghanistan/Pakistan is where the real fight is.

God Damn! would I sleep a lot easier if the main minds behind our policy in that region right now were Obama, Biden, Petraus, I'm sure Richardson isn't too far from that neighborhood of thought either.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:23 AM
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19. I agree that the Petraeus attacks were unfair
He's a soldier doing his job. His job is determined by who is President. It's just unfortunate that Dumbya's foreign policy is so broken.

I'm interested as to what position Susan Rice will have in the Obama administration. I'm more impressed with her each and every day.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 07:43 AM
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23. Ya think?
I guess you don't remember the visit in September (2006 2007?) where we discovered he had a 'script' from the wh? Unfair? Is he a soldier, politician, or toady for this admin? He's doing the bidding for the wh. I'm surely not impressed.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 04:36 AM
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20. No way
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 04:37 AM by loyalsister
One of the greatest source of volunteers is various women's advocacy groups. At least some mature volunteers are needed.
Biden on the ticket would alienate many of them.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 06:40 AM
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22. He displayed the same BAD JUDGMENT as McCain by voting for the war.
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 06:47 AM by Skwmom
It's kind of hard to hammer someone else for their bad judgment when you picked someone as VP who displayed the same bad/stupid judgment.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 07:45 AM
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24. good point
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 07:51 AM
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25. Too Beltway
Great guy, but Obama's going elsewhere. Change election, remember?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 08:26 AM
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26. OK. Do you have any predictions?
Since I respect your opinion, I'm curious. Me, not a clue.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:21 AM
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27. I am moving more and more
into the absolutely no clue category myself. Not only no clue who the choice is going to be, but not even a clue who I would like myself. The one thing that I am almost sure about though is that the traditional geographical balance argument will not count very heavily in the decision, and also (OK, that makes two things I am almost sure about) that what comes AFTER the election, how well the two may get along, be able to cooperate, think in similar ways about the gazillion problems that have to be taken care of (not necessarily the same ideas, but similar mental DNA so to say), I think all these things will matter much more in the decision than how much the VP choice will help with the election. I think that, more than usual, Obama will win (or God forbid lose) on his own strengths and weaknesses.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:00 PM
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29. (Back after a spell...)
I'm thinking it's between four governors: Kaine, Sebelius, Richardson and Schweitzer. Obama wants someone closer to him in age, style, philosophy and from a state/region where he has an opportunity to change the electoral map. All of those factors certainly run against Biden.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:12 PM
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30. Why would he pick someone who doesnt want the job?
Doesnt make sense to me.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:20 PM
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31. He's great for the job, but what states/votes will he help us pick up? n/t
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