Would Obama supporters accept Clinton as his VP?

[11 Bravo]

I've noted several inquiries as to what Clinton supporters might find acceptable, but in light of some of the animosity I have seen displayed here, I think the question is germane. Would an Obama supporter who considers Senator Clinton to be a "neocon" "corporatist" "war-mongering" "bitch" acquiesce if Senator Obama decided he wanted her at the bottom of the ticket?

[JI7]

1. yes

[JVS]

2. He should choose someone better.

[goldcanyonaz]

5. i think he should choose YOU!

[JVS]

7. I'm ineligible, but thank you for your support.

[11 Bravo]

11. Perhaps, and there are a myriad of threads addressing that issue.

But my question is IF Obama madde that choice, would you honor his wishes and support the ticket?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

31. I would not. I would vote for Cynthia McKinney. It's a moot point because I don't

think he will!

[LaurenG]

3. I would nt

[goldcanyonaz]

4. it is interesting how many wont accept her but accept Biden

He voted for the war as well, I do not recall him every apologizing for his vote either

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

33. He's not polarizing, deceptive, or divisive. Hillary is. She ran a despicable and nasty campaign!

[goldcanyonaz]

34. LOL! thanks for the chuckle

anita hill anyone?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

36. I cannot forgive him for his treatment of Anita Hill. I don't support him for the VP position.

But he simply cannot compare to Hillary Clinton when it comes to the nasty, divisive politics she used in the primary season this year.

[MonkeyFunk]

45. No she didn't

stop fighting the primaries.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

49. When you people stop and resign to the fact that Hillary lost fair and square, then we'll stop!

[MonkeyFunk]

56. That's not how it works.

YOU'RE the one who brought up the primary fight - nobody else did.

You have to stop it.

[Maine-ah]

6. I don't care who the vp is

I'm voting the dem ticket all the way.

[goldcanyonaz]

8. what a cute baby!

[havocmom]

9. NOTHING would help McCain & GOP more than Clinton on our ticket

GOP voters not inspired and many will vote Obama. BUT Clinton on the ticket will rally the wingers in the GOP and get them to to polls. NOTHING will inspire them more than another chance to vote against a Clinton.

[11 Bravo]

10. But IF it happened, would you honor Senator Obama's wishes and support the ticket?

[TBF]

12. Of course most of us would support whoever Obama chooses.

But why are we discussing this yet again? I thought the primaries were over. Perhaps we should discuss VP picks as a whole and not try to restart the Obama v. Clinton thing.

[havocmom]

22. Evidently, some are still fighting the primary battles

No point in the OP at all, save that fighting. Hillary lost, we all know why. We will all support the DEM ticket, but why put the losing candidate on it?

Having another Senator on the ticket is not a good idea anyway. If the driving force of the campaign is CHANGE, we need someone who is not same shift different day on as the VP.

OP is just about spilled milk.

[virtualobserver]

14. what other option would we have?

Unless Obama picks Cheney as his VP, He has my vote.

[havocmom]

21. Foolish question. I am here and I vote DEM. What is your point?

At this point, we either support the ticket or we support four more years of cheney, and probably 3 more lifetime appointments of really bad Supreme Court fuck ups.

Of course I would vote the DEM ticket. But more wingers would come to the polls than would without Clinton on the ticket, so putting her there ONLY serves to bring the race closer to the point the GOP can steal it. It would be a horrible mistake to have her on the ticket.

[11 Bravo]

24. I'm not advocating for inclusion on the ticket, and I don't have a point.

I asked a fucking question. I didn't ask if people thought it would be a good idea, I simply inquired if people would abandon the party if Senator Obama placed her on the ticket. As you can see from responses right on this thread, some would and some would not.

[havocmom]

25. Don't care if you asked if it was a good idea. If you open discussion on HRC

You get discussion on HRC. Sorry, you are not the decider on what direction a discussion goes.

Was there a conference call last night? These odd discussions are breaking out today.

[TBF]

43. Heh. I've noticed that as well. There's a bunch out there again today.

Time to explore other areas of DU and leave the trolls to the mods.

[11 Bravo]

48. Yep, I've been trolling and donating here for six years now.

You would think that in that time I would have become acclimated to the sanctimony of some posters. I asked a straight-forward question, without nuance, bias, nor weight toward any point of view, yet the "more progressive than thou" crowd (and one apparent mind reader, who although completely lacking in reading comprehension skills, is apparently able to discern some sinister intent on my part) have begun to gather in the hope of engaging in yet another of their myopic little circle jerks.
For the record, neither Senator Obama nor Senator Clinton was my first choice, but the minute Barack Obama became our presumptive nominee I sent a campaign contribution and will begin canvassing for his campaign here in Northern Virginia this weekend. I will vote for the ticket WHOEVER he selects as his running mate. Troll that, jackass.

[TBF]

54. Actually I have seen alot of troll-type posting today, but I apologize for not looking

at your profile. I should've checked before jumping to conclusions. I'm a monthly subscriber since the fund raising drive, but relatively new to DU, and possibly a little too enthusiastic at times.

As for your question, Hillary is fine with me. I was opposed to the idea at first because I've never liked her very much, I don't think she appeals to the moderates Obama needs, and I fear she is too establishment. But I also felt that she gave a great concession speech and it seems that she wants to help Obama now. If he thinks she is the right person for the job I'm fine with that. How can we trust him to be president if we don't trust him on a VP pick? Whomever he wants is fine.

[Buck Rabbit]

61. I think you're correct. She (actually Bill) is a net loss to the ticket.

But I absolutely would vote for the ticket anyway.

[NatBurner]

13. sure

i'd prefer clark or sebelius tho

[LTR]

15. I'm somewhat indifferent, but I think she'd be a distraction

Obama needs to get out from under the Clintons' shadow. Over the past few weeks, he's started to to do just that.

I feel that Hillary as running mate will ignite old primary skirmishes and draw attention away from Obama. He needs to define his own campaign.

In addition, polls are starting to show that he's gradually bringing many Clinton supporters into the fold. Many of the so-called 'deadenders' probably won't vote for him anyway even with her on the ticket, but I'm sure many of them are closet Republicans anyway. So I think she'd be more of a negative than a positive. Obama doesn't really need Hillary, and probably doesn't really trust her, and I suspect that he will look elsewhere for a running mate.

[JeanGrey]

16. No. It would help McCain and the righties to no end,

and we might actually lose.

[nxylas]

17. It's not like we'd have a choice

I think choosing Clinton as his VP would be a bad idea, but if he did, I'm not gonna throw a hissy fit about it. What would be the point? Is he gonna change his mind just to please me?

[GodlessBiker]

18. Yes. I trust his judgment on this.

[NV Whino]

19. No.

[SeaLyons]

37. so, what would you do...

support McCain????

[NV Whino]

52. No, I would not support McCain--ever--at any time.

But this is a moot point. Obama won't ask Hillary to be VP and even if he did, she wouldn't accept it.

[endarkenment]

20. I'm fine with it. VP generally not important, Cheney huge exception.

Mostly they get parked in a warehouse and gather dust.

[onehandle]

23. The Democratic supporters would. nt

[havocmom]

26. People, DO NOT answer no to OP's question. Such a response could cause banning

Which makes me most suspicious as to what the OP's purpose for posting this really is.

Do not fall for this crap, no matter who posts it. We support the nominee PERIOD.

[lastliberalintexas]

59. Hagel, anyone?

I can't speak for the OP, but I personally find the responses of some fascinating simply because so many were okey dokey with Hagel, yet they'd have a problem voting for a Clinton. Makes absolute, total and complete sense to this Socialist.

[rox63]

27. I plan on voting for Obama no matter who he chooses as the VP nominee n/t

[davidpdx]

28. This has been hashed and rehashed to death

most likely she won't be the nominee. The choice of PSD as the VP Chief of Staff pretty much sealed that fate. Time to move on.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

29. NO!! NO!! and ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! She's too polarizing and too divisive

I cannot forgive the nasty campaign she ran and there are very many African Americans who cannot forgive the Clintons and their friends for that. More important, the Repugs hate Hillary Clinton more than they loathe Bill. Having her on the ticket would be disastrous for so many reasons: she would galvanize the Republican party. All of the Republicans and Indies that Obama was able to attract would leave him and go home to the Republican party. She and Bill bring too much political baggage and corruption. The fallacy that she has been vetted would be tested yet again: her brother's involvement with the Clinton library; Bill's dealing with the Saudi's; the Peter Paul trial and so on.

Obama DOES NOT need her. Basically he is doing quite well without her among all of the groups that supported her and the media told us wouldn't.

Hillary Clinton is DLC personified. She and the DLC represent the worst of the Democratic party and we really need to let go of the Corporate, war-mongering wing of our party.

It is time to close the book on the Clinton Legacy and move forward. There are other, more qualified candidates for the position.

I personally feel that Obama needs someone with foreign policy/military experience. If not, he needs a seasoned candidate with executive experience, perhaps a governor.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

30. ETA: I have never and will never refer to Hillary as a "bitch". That's McSame's job! n/t

[sentelle]

32. in all fairness to Clinton

She is a coldly effective litigator. This is both her biggest strength and one of her weaknesses. Let me explain. At extended family gatherings, two people debate a lot. One, a younger, college educated New York liberal, the other, an older, non college educated, but experienced in the ways of the world, from south carolina, and conservative. The new york liberal will start with an opinion, and a reason, and say that others agree with them, and anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. The SC conservative, listens, states his understanding of her opinion, and then offers other ways to look at the issue. Doesn't really state his own opinion, but merely has the liberal question their own. The NY liberal's way of arguing is combative and devisive. It can be effective, but it also turns people off. This is typical of what I saw in Clinton. I think that Clinton has a shrewd mind, and in the right place in an administration can be brutally effective. My objections to her as president, or VP come down to this:These roles take lawyerly effectiveness, but also take a more diplomatic approach. To appropriate TR: to carry a big stick, but sometimes that stick needs a little padding, or else it might be overkill. The second issue is really a question of managerial skill. Some of the people she picked were quite poor. She was plagued with poor money management, and was often forced back on her heels due to 'unauthorised' attacks: Whether the attacks were authorised or not, it showed poor judgement, which along with financial issues could have been the cause of her losing in the primaries. Her money issues had a cause, as did her campaign's 'unauthorised' attacks. The people were hers, and she is ultimately responsible... Or at least that's how I would say it if I were Donald Trump, and this were "The Apprentice" I personally think she'd be an asset to any administration, as say, solisitor general (sp?) Where diplomacy is not needed, and she can go hog-wild attack dog style. This would also bolster her chances for the next election.

Having her as VP might be devisive due to her attack dog style, it also doesn't help with demographics.

All that said, I will respect Obama's choice either way.

[Beacool]

44. I don't agree with you.

Hillary is the one who has crossed party lines in the senate and who won the respect of most of her colleagues, even the most rabid right wingers like Graham and Brownback (who apologized to her for the terrible things that he had said about her and Bill).

In certain occasions when she sensed that her mere presence would be distracting, she has stepped outside the room and let others deliberate. The bill was more important than her ego. She's also the one who has lent generously her celebrity status to promote her Dem. colleagues. She's even known to be the only senator to takes a step back in photographs so as to give others the opportunity to shine.

The polarizing and divisive crap is something created and propagated by the Republicans since her days in the WH.

[Occam Bandage]

35. I'd support the ticket, sure. I'd also support the similarly likely Obama-Elvis Presley,

Obama-Bigfoot, and Obama-Jesus tickets.

[havocmom]

40. Best answer

:hug: & :rofl:

[Adelante]

38. I'm voting Obama for president

Who he chooses for his ticket is something he has to work out for himself.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

39. I thought we were _all_ Obama supporters now... nt

[PoliticalAmazon]

41. I wouldn't accept Bugs Bunny, either, who has as much chance as HIllary being VP. n/t

[Hope And Change]

42. If Obama chooses her as his VP I would have no problem with it.

[Bette Noir]

46. Ain't gonna happen.

Why fight about the possibility?

[gkhouston]

47. Christ, did we fall into a time warp?

This isn't just beating a dead horse. This is more like taking the horse to the Elmer's factory, then using the resulting glue for art therapy in a mental ward.

[Az_lefty]

50. No, and it's not because of Hillary.

he needs someone will a great deal of Military experience to balance out the ticket. She doesn't have that and two Senators on the ticket just isn't a good idea anyway.

[BklynChick]

51. I will support him no matter what but I wouldn't be happy about this at all for a variety of reasons

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

53. I didn't like Lieberman as Gore's VP...

I wouldn't like Clinton as Obama's VP.

[democrattotheend]

55. I got my first choice at the top of the ticket

I'm beyond him no matter which Democrat (or even a few Republicans) he puts on the bottom of the ticket.

[elizm]

57. I trust his judgement....

If Obama thinks he should choose Hillary as VP then I will accept it. With that said....I'm hoping his judgement tells him something different.

[MrSlayer]

58. We aren't going to have to cross that bridge so, no worries.

I would unhappily vote for it but it would completely undermine his whole theme of change. She is part of what we want to put behind us.

[27inCali]

60. I think there are a lot more qualified Dems out there

but it's his call, he's the big dog now.

[ZinZen]

62. I don't think they would be a good fit

because they are both strong in personality and leaders, but if Obama picks her I will enthusiastically support the ticket.