No Obama TV ads in PA!!!-

[demokatgurrl]

Last night I was watching the Phillies game and I saw the same McCain ad TWICE wihtin about 20 minutes. I have not seen an Obama ad since the primary in PA. This is not good. Doesn't he have enough money? I have made several donations already because I was worried.


And does anyone know whether it's true that Primary funds cannot be used for the GE? I have heard different answers. Thanks

[gateley]

1. I've heard other Phillies viewers say the same thing (here on DU).

What is up with Obama? His campaign is usually so ON TOP of everything.

I've heard the same thing about primary funds not being used for the GE -- looking forward to responses from those who know the answer.

[anonymous171]

3. I think he's learned from the primaries.

If you remember, Obama nearly burned out near the end. He's saving his energy for a 3 month push, imo.

[MidwestTransplant]

6. Primaries don't end until the convention.

[gateley]

7. Oh -- so he CAN use his current funds? That's great! nt

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[anonymous171]

4. Uh, no. He's actually ahead there I believe.

[Thrill]

8. He was there today. Just because you don't beat Hillary in a state doesn't mean you can't beat

McBush there.

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[Connie_Corleone]

13. The primaries are over. It's just Democrats now.

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[Connie_Corleone]

18. Take the "Obama Disgust" blinders off for a moment and read again what I wrote.

WE'RE ALL DEMOCRATS. Obama is the Democratic nominee now.

You're the one who is acting like Hillary supporters aren't Democrats.

[Youphemism]

23. That's an interesting question...

FYI, I supported Obama in the Primaries, just so you know where I'm coming from. It does seem that Obama would want to attract Hillary supporters, especially in PA, so there's probably a reason.

Here are a couple of thoughts:

First, the Primaries have not been over for very long -- I seriously doubt the Obama camp has had time to merge the databases.

Hillary, however, certainly still has the list of her supporters, so it makes me wonder why *she* wouldn't be notifying her supporters about the Obama rally, given that she's now thrown her support behind him. But again, with so little time since the Primaries, this would be pretty fast for her to be up and running in full support mode.

Second, it might be that, until the VP selection has been made, Obama doesn't want to upset those Hillary supporters who are still angry about the election. He might want to let them have some time to get past that, since he'll certainly be in PA again.

Finally, there has already been pressure by supporters to make Hillary the VP -- pressure that actually works against her chances of becoming VP. He might be trying to keep that from becoming a public spectacle until the decision is made.

Those are my guesses, but I think you asked a good question. Hillary supporters are definitely important to Obama, so I'm sure there's a reason, even if I haven't managed to guess it here. (As you know, this is a sensitive topic around here.)

[PM7nj]

10. He's ahead in ALL of the latest PA polls.

WITHOUT Hillary. :eyes:

[MaraJade]

12. PA dems now have NO CHOICE. . .

DUH!!!!

What else do you expect? When people lose their choice, they tend to go with the
lesser of two evils.

[PM7nj]

29. Well then I guess we don't need Hillary after all.

DUH!!!

[NotThisTime]

40. What are the PA polls saying? Does anyone know?

[MaraJade]

14. Very, very true.

For example, the rally in Wayne Pa was closed to all but Obama supporters.
If this is the way he is going to operate, closing out all except his own
supporters, this sends a very bad message to Dems who did not support him.

Looks a whole lot like a repuke tactic to me.

I remember when the Shrub came to Harrisburg (my hometown). He came to the
Central Dauphin High School (currently, my daughter is a Senior there). No one could get
in unless they were a Shrub supporter. We found out that the students were even
screened, and the children of Dems were told to stay home that day.

Closed rallies -- a repuke tactic used to avoid being asked hard questions by
supporters.

There is a lot of anger over this in PA. Arrogance and dismissal of the working class.

[Warren Stupidity]

20. Another one who just can't let it go.

Of course Obama is going to contest PA. This is June. Where ads run in June for the November election is not exactly telling or critical.

[27inCali]

22. he's leading in every recent poll I've seen

Even with all the Hillary holdouts going over to McCain he still holds a formidable lead in the electoral college overall, not just in Pen.

he doesn't NEED Hillary just because YOU think it should be that way.

so you still wanna stand over there with your arms crossed holding your breath hoping to be personally vindicated by a national disaster?

do people need to suffer to prove you right?

enjoy being on the wrong side of history.

[Shakespeare]

24. You might want to buy a clue before you start pulling stuff out of your ass next time.

:eyes:

[4_Legs_Good]

25. LMAO

:rofl:

Too f*cking funny!

David

[union_maid]

5. I'm thinking it's pretty early to worry

I know that PA is on their radar bigtime. I think it's way too early to worry about a TV presence in a given market, though. They're doing ads, I guess - I haven't seen any for either candidate in my own market or in FL, where I just spent some time with family, but it doesn't mean they're not there. An awful lot of it is just spitting in the wind at this early date, though.

[4_Legs_Good]

26. Agreed, and remember Obama plays chess

He knows exactly what he's doing. He'll move here and there when he's ready, the time is right, and it will have most benefit.

Worry not, we got a long road ahead of us, and McCain will be eating our dust the whole way.

David

[MaraJade]

9. Obama was in the state today for a rally in Wayne

but it was "invite only." No working class people were invited. Questions were taken
from supporters. There were no hard questions asked at all, because the people who
would ask them were not invited.

I've seen repukes stage rallies, but never Dems.

Are staged rallies for Dems now the wave of the future?

:eyes:

[TahitiNut]

21. "No working class people were invited"???

Oh, really? Do you regard the "unemployed class" separate from the "working class"? :eyes:

What utter hogwash you post.

I take that back.

No self-respecting hog would bathe in that sewage. :puke:

[foo_bar]

27. that's twice you've spoken on behalf of "working class people"

My daughter's anguish. . .

For the past two years, G<.> ( the huggyhubby) and I have sent the Crown Princess S<.> on overseas junkets. So far, she's been to New Zealand, and Australia. These junkets have cost us $12,000 US dollars. Quite a pretty penny when one considers that we've also spent about $10,000 US on figure skating (Synchronized Skating Team; Private Coaching and Testing).

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Sexist and stupid. . .

My daughter is a figure skater and I RESENTED the stupid Tutu comments. . .

I am quitting this forum for a few weeks. My blood pressure is way too high.

Peace to all. I'm outta here. Got work to do for my Figure Skating Club. . .

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[demokatgurrl]

34. It was a fundraiser- they are often "invite only"

because they send out invitations to known donors. Rallies are different, they are open and are free.

[qanda]

16. I just came to Pittsburgh a couple of days ago

I've seen three McCain ads and no Obama ads. However, I have seen lots of Obama signs and I have not seen any McCain signs.

[rebel with a cause]

31. How tired are people going to be of these ads by the time

November comes around? I know that by election time I usually hate all the candidates. I think it is smart of him to not start to early with the ads, do personal appearances and get his name in the news positively. That is how people learn about him without him pushing his self on them. The signs give him name recognition also. JMHO

[qanda]

32. I agree. I've only been here a few days and I'm already tired of them

They even had one during the Tim Russert Memorial on Meet the Press-- I thought that was so disrespectful.

[ShadowLiberal]

17. I haven't seen any Obama ads in PA either, but Obama has consistently been up here for a few months

[jakem]

19. but that you for your CONCERN...

:eyes:

[rebel with a cause]

28. No Obama ads in Illinois yet. Duh!!!

You think he is saving his money here. :rofl:

Every day from 4 p.m. to 5 p.m. on the Kentucky station, mccain runs two ads. That is about the only time I have that station on, so I don't know if he has them on other times. I have yet to see an Obama ad on any of the stations and we have a Missouri station also. We have one Chicago one also, but that would be a waste of money. I think he has Chicago wrapped up and if he does, he has Illinois. Mostly we have cable stations, so if he advertised on them, that would be national.

[cliffordu]

30. I get the feeling he's got a nice plan to flood the airwaves as soon as

everyone gets tired of the candidate formerly known as Gramps.

[Gore1FL]

33. I saw that too -- except I called it the Cardinals game!

[demokatgurrl]

36. the only one the Phillies won! BTW How is Molina? n/t

[Gore1FL]

39. Luckily, he apparently avoided serious injury to his spine

He does have a concussion, and they are keeping him overnight in the hospital. He's suffering from "whiplash-like" symptoms they say.

In a best case scenario he'll be back by the end of the week.

It was pretty scary to see them take him off on a backboard and neck brace.

[demokatgurrl]

42. Glad to hear it. It was scary.

I watch a lot of sports and can't stand to see someone get hurt like that. Catchers should get paid a lot more money. It's a very tough position.

[mvd]

35. McCain's advertising pretty early IMO

Obama is more known here from all the primary visits anyway. Don't worry - I think PA will be ok.

[MoonRiver]

37. I thought he was just so flush with cash?

:wtf::shrug:

[Barack_America]

38. Good Lord, our primary was less than 2 months ago!

We were besieged with Obama and Hillary ads for over a month! I think he can spare giving us a break.

McCain, OTOH, didn't advertise much at all for the primares, so he is trying to catch up. I say, let him waste his money on the expensive Philly market, it's not going to do a bit of good!

[dsomuah]

41. His lead is growing there he doesn't need ads there yet.

I think Obama is concentrating on states like VA, and NC,NV and AZ states that are currently McCain states but barely so. He's also concentrating on OH, MI, CO and MO the tossup states, and on building his slim leads is IA, NM, and NH. In PA his lead is decent and growing which is why McCain is concentrating more on the state than Obama is McCain knows he's losing PA. You'll probably see Obama ads in the state when we get closer to the election.