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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 09:10 AM
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Why Is Carly Fiorina—a Symbol of Corporate Excesses—McCain's Favorite CEO?
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But why should anyone listen to—let alone vote for—Fiorina?

Her stint as a corporate titan was more mixed than master-of-the-universe. In 1999, Fiorina took over Hewlett-Packard, the troubled computer company, becoming one of the top women in Corporate America. Previously, she had built a successful career mostly in marketing and sales at AT&T and Lucent, but she had the not-so-good fortune to be taking the helm of an engineering-driven tech company as the tech boom was ending. Her solution to HP's ailments was controversial: buying Compaq. She pushed the $19 billion acquisition over the opposition of many HP stockholders, including, most notably, Walter Hewlett, the son of the company's founder, who argued the merger would not make HP more competitive.

At HP, Fiorina developed the reputation of a manager who knocked heads together—or who chopped them off. And there were massive layoffs during her tenure. In 2003, the company announced it would dismiss almost 18,000 people. (That year, the firm posted a $903 million loss on $56.6 billion in revenue.) When the outsourcing of jobs turned into a national political issue, Fiorina became the poster-girl for an industry campaign aimed at blocking any legislation that would restrict a company's ability to can American employees in favor of workers overseas. She and executives from seven other tech companies issued a report that argued that any such measures would hurt the U.S. economy. The best way to increase American competitiveness, they declared, was to improve schools and, yes, reduce taxes. At a Washington press conference, Fiorina said, "There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore. We have to compete for jobs." The remark did not go over well with critics of outsourcing, who have ever since used it as an indicator of corporate insensitivity.

Fiorina's stint at HP was marked by other moments of controversy. In March 2004, after HP shareholders voted 1.21 billion to 925 million to expense stock options, she opposed the move, essentially opting to stick with accounting practices (that were used by other corporations) that did not reveal a company's true value. That same year, Forbes reported that Hewlett-Packard was "among many other U.S. companies that kept offices in Dubai and were linked to Iranian traders there." The article suggested that HP and other countries were skirting export controls to trade with Iran. And in early 2005, Fiorina announced that pop star Gwen Stefani would join the HP design team and work on the company's line of digital cameras.

Fiorina wasn't around long enough to see her Plan Stefani to completion. In February 2005, she was pushed out of HP. The company's board, with which she had been battling for years, had had enough of her. The Compaq merger had not yielded the benefits—improved shareholder returns and greater profits—she had promised. At the time of her dismissal, Hewlett-Packard stock was trading at about the same price as when she first unveiled the Compaq deal. Eighty percent of the company's operating profits were coming from its old-line printing business. She had not succeeded in reviving HP as a computer-selling powerhouse. The day she was dumped, the company's stock price rose 7 percent. That was Wall Street exclaiming, Hooray. As Robert Cihra, an analyst with Fulcrum Global Partners told Money magazine, "The stock is up a bit on the fact that nobody liked Carly's leadership all that much. The Street had lost all faith in her and the market's hope is that anyone will be better."

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/06/8687_why_is_carly_fi.html
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 09:13 AM
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1. Because she's a symbol of corporate excess, duh!
:evilgrin:
rocknation
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 09:16 AM
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3. I remember a thread where she was gonna " take the women" vote
If Obama didn't do something right NOW!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 09:20 AM
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4. That OP had no grasp of who Fiorino was; many of us took her to task over that.
I doubt she bothered to educate herself about Fiorino, either.

But oh, she certainly was very "concerned,: wasn't she?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:36 PM
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16. That OP is no longer on this board... thank goodness!!! GOT THE PIZZA!!!
:) :) :toast: :toast: :party: :party: :party: :party: :thumbsup: :hi: :hi: :hi: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 10:41 AM
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17. YES! Thank goodness! Prdon me while I dance... nt
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Youphemism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 09:16 AM
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2. Don't forget that HP has a bad track record for its execs...

She replaced a regime famous for Nixonian bugging of its offices. The same folks who hired in that Watergate yo-yo hired her as a replacement.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 09:27 AM
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5. Of all the female execs with RNC sympathies McCain could have picked to cheerlead him,
he chose a disgraced Fiorino? Maybe the field isn't as wide as one would think, though. Female CEOs tend to be independent thinkers (unlike Fiorino) and wouldn'y fall automatically into the RNC lockstep.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 09:33 AM
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6. I recently read her book
borrowed it from the university I work for. She certainly did work her way up the corporate ladder, but had some severe conflicts with the HP Board. If anyone is interested, here is a link to an interview with her on Charlie Rose:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1339594900319396988&q=Carly+Fiorina&ei=WtZTSMu3KoW4wgPJpZ36BQ
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:03 AM
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7. "Americans think they have a God-given right to a job"
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 10:03 AM by Joanne98
Not an exact quote but close. Let's use it in a commerial.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:17 PM
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11. I have the quote she made and its not good for McCain
"There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore,"

She fired tens of thousands of employees to then outsource jobs overseas. She managed to skip out of Lucent right before the Feds arrived and started the HP Boardroom investigation which connected to the scandal and the hostile culture she created at HP.


Then she has lied about Obama's tax cut for 95%
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/10/fiorina-obama-tax-cut/

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dazzlerazzle Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:14 AM
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8. Carly and outsourcing
Fighting out-sourcing should be made part of the Democratic platform. Anyone making statements that it is good for the United States should have their motives questioned. I believe she was trying to show how tough she was when she made the statement about rights to jobs, but she came across as cold-hearted and frankly, un-american.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:25 PM
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12. Yeah, she was seen somewhat as a cold hearted
(insert bad word here).
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:32 PM
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13. She's nothing but Jack Welch with breasts.
"Chainsaw Carly"'s strategy was, more or less, fire everyone, replace them with cheap foreign labor and spend more to remain stagnant.

Then get 21 million in severance.

Bullshit.

WHY do Americans put UP with this?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 10:42 AM
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18. Perfect description. nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:15 AM
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9. Because she is great on TV
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:34 PM
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14. Yep
She's adept at appearing logical while being simultaneously attractive.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:15 AM
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10. Because he's clueless? nt
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:34 PM
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15. McCain has a problem with women and he will lose because of that.
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