First Official GD-Prez VP Poll

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

Who's your pick?

[thoughtcrime1984]

1. Kathleen Sebelius. Schweitzer a close second. nt

[damntexdem]

7. Sebelius, Sebelius!

A Democratic woman governor from a red state.

[hokies4ever]

31. Sebelius!

along with Richardson and Biden, they're the top 3 in my opinion.

[Labors of Hercules]

72. *sigh*

I want Sebelius to become Obama's VP almost as much as I wanted Gore to run last year, but nobody here seems to agree with me. Am I just weird or what? :banghead:

[newmajority]

2. Obama/Richardson 2008!

[L. Coyote]

68. Puts Florida in the Dem column!

And, probably registers another 5 million Dems in areas with concentrations of Natives.

[Muttocracy]

3. voted Schweitzer though I go back and forth b/w him and Biden - add Biden? nt

[TexasObserver]

4. Obama/Richardson 2008!

[terrya]

21. That's the ticket

:thumbsup:

[Bullet1987]

5. Sebelius for VP!!!

[gateley]

6. Schweitzer -- saving Biden for SOS. nt

[highplainsdem]

8. Clinton.

[Xenocrates]

9. Richardson!

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

10. Interesting results so far!

Richardson doesn't get a lot attention in the MSM, but if you look at his resume, you can't help but be impressed.

[BklynChick]

11. Biden.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

12. Biden has been added.

[Cant trust em]

13. I honestly cannot decide if Hillary Clinton would be a good choice or not.

I feel like with her we either win in a landslide, or it costs us the election. I'm really torn.

[Zhade]

62. From a strategic standpoint, it would be a disaster.

mcLame would just use the Tuzla video to easily prove clinton a liar, and the video of her endorsement of him over Obama to undercut the ticket (he's already using it in ads).

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

70. Interesting poll numbers

I think it was MSNBC (sorry, no link) had polling that show 21% more likely to vote for Obama with HRC on the ticket, 22% less likely, and 55% said it made no difference.

The ambiguity is deafening!

[NeedleCast]

14. Webb

[Barack_America]

15. Other: Tim Kaine.

:hi:

[jgraz]

16. How come Biden doesn't get a first name? Is he going all "Cher" on us?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

18. LOL!

I was in a hurry, trying to edit before someone came in and voted "Other" before I could get it moved.

But now I'm picturing Joe Biden in a Bob Mackie original...

[jgraz]

17. B Box!!

[Bluenorthwest]

19. Oh yes

I'd go Boxer for sure. Great idea.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

20. Unfortunately, it's too late for me to add her...

That has a glaring omission on my part. Apologies all around...

[jgraz]

22. You also forgot Feingold.

Wow, you suck at this. :P

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

23. I'd post a poll of all the things I suck at...

But we only get 10 options...

[jgraz]

24. That's ok. You'd probably forget half of them.

:hi:

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

25. Half of what?

:shrug:

[jgraz]

26. .

:spray: :thumbsup:

[Beaverhausen]

44. Oh yes - that would be sweet

She is the best.

[PoliticalAmazon]

27. I think Webb would be a good balance to Obama, and would bring a lot to the ticket....

Is there bad stuff I should know about him?

[PoliticalAmazon]

28. Interestingly, Wes Clark was not on MSNBC's list of 16 VP candidates today....

Considering how much he is pushed here, and the amount of problems with Clark as a VP for Obama, it makes me wonder: is it the Wes Clark advocates or MSNBC who are out of touch?

[tokenlib]

33. That had to be a bogus list without Clark ...

...and I know Schweitzer isn't well-known, but he should have been on it as well..

[ShortnFiery]

73. No, IMO, Wes Clark is not near the quality of former Ret. USMC General Anthony Zinni.

I don't GET what the "love affair" is with Clark. I just don't trust the man. Perhaps I'm remiss, but I just don't understand why so many here adore him.

:shrug:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Zinni

Comments of Gen. Anthony Zinni (ret.) during a speech before the Florida Economic Club, Aug. 23, 2002:

http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/zinni.html

Attacking Iraq now will cause a lot of problems. I think the debate right now that's going on is very healthy. If you ask me my opinion, Gen. Scowcroft, Gen. Powell, Gen. Schwarzkopf, Gen. Zinni, maybe all see this the same way.

It might be interesting to wonder why all the generals see it the same way, and all those that never fired a shot in anger and really hell-bent to go to war see it a different way. That's usually the way it is in history. (Crowd laughter.)

But let me tell you what the problem is now as I see it. You need to weigh this: what are your priorities in the region? That's the first issue in my mind.

The Middle East peace process, in my mind, has to be a higher priority. Winning the war on terrorism has to be a higher priority. More directly, the situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan, Central Asia need to be resolved, making sure Al Qaeda can't rise again from the ashes that are destroyed. Taliban cannot come back. That the warlords can't regain power over Kabul and Karzai, and destroy everything that has happened so far.

[goodgd_yall]

39. I FINALLY heard him mentioned on CNN

last night. Yeah, strange how he's not discussed that much on the MSM. I think they just are lousy analysts, to tell you the truth. I don't think they are going indepth enough. Try this site: http://www.theleftanchor.com/vice_president_profile/page/2/ This is the kind of analysis I'd like hear more of.

[ShortnFiery]

74. Here's a site and some information about the STRONG benefits of Obama picking Zinni as his VP

Not the least of which is that WE (the Democratic Party GE) could snag Pennsylvania without smarmy close attachments to "Fast Eddy" Rendell. :evilgrin:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/8/173948/3347/562/467252

General Anthony Zinni

Pros

1) A former Bush supporter who became a Bush critic.

2) His military leadership is specifically in the Middle East, thus bringing him added credibility when talking about Iraq and eventual withdrawal from the region.

3) As a Special Envoy to Israel and Palestine, he would shore up any questions critics may want to raise concernign Obama's commitment to Israel and would have a well informed partner to pursue peace in that region.

4) An ethnic (Italian), working-class persona that will help attract Hillary Clinton's down-scale voters and conservative Reagan Democrats. Like Obama, he is the son of immigrants - which should help when the issue of immigration arises.

[WeDidIt]

29. I think that if I clicked on this poll seven different times

I'd come up with seven different answers to teh poll.

They're all great Democrats!

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

30. Goes back to the field of primary candidates...

We've never had a field this talented. Ever.

[Phoonzang]

32. Brian Schweitzer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0i9o-ThOPM

[cloudythescribbler]

34. We B Box supporters need to insist NO MORE LEAVING HER OFF THE LISTS -- on du and then elsewhere ...

I know it was an oversight, but it's an oversight repeatedly made. MAYBE there's a few equally qualified individuals, and VERY difficult to find equally qualified women. And it's TIME for a woman VP. (also good realpolitik)

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

40. It wasn't intentional...

I had Sen. Boxer as my avatar for quite some time. I think she would be a fine choice for VP.

[goodgd_yall]

35. One of my top picks--Dodd

I haven't decided on THE ONE, (Wesley Clark is another I think would be a great choice)< but what I like about Dodd besides most of his stands on issues, is his debating ability. I think he can counter anything McCain and his surrogates can throw at him with knowledge and passion. He has a great counterpunch. I don't consider 64 to be too old either. Any one 68 or under is OK by me.

[tekisui]

36. Obama/Clark '08!~

[tokenlib]

37. For a no BS "change" ticket..Schweitzer is the guy...

A guy who has been a real rancher--not just some joker that lives on a ranch.

[Phillycat]

38. Hillary, but I'd be very happy with Clark.

[jakem]

41. I dont know much about this "Other - Specify" character-

but they sound right for the job!

[DemExpat]

42. Clark, then Hillary.

DemEx

[Az_lefty]

43. Gen. Zinni then Clark...Obama needs a General on the ticket.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

48. What...and Wes Clark is chopped liver?!

[ShortnFiery]

75. No, but there's definite negatives. Further Clark's behavior as HRC surrogate was, IMO, over the top

Cons

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/8/173948/3347/562/467252

1) A Hillary supporter. Will he devote himself fully to Obama's team or will he be working to promote himself?

2) Has a reputation as an intellectual compared to Zinni's more working-class, gritty reputation.

3) Questions surround his dismissal from his NATO post, with General Hugh Shelton suggesting his dismissal had to do with "integrity and character issues."

4) While his campaign skills have greatly improved, his 2004 campaign was less than impressive.

=======

Further, as a woman who has always been connected with The Military Community as 1) A child of AD Army; 2) An AD Soldier; 3) The wife of an AD Marine; and now 4) The wife of a retired JARHEAD. :evilgrin: ... I can say with confidence that *the MARINES* both enlisted and officer have maintained a HIGH regard for Retired General Anthony Zinni. In particular, my husband followed his career and has guided me to many articles about him.

No, to be completely OBJECTIVE, I know no true negatives about Wes Clark. It's just my "impression" after observing his political behavior that makes me less than confident in him.

Yes, Wes Clark is an honorable retired General BUT IMNSHO (and many others!) Ret. General Anthony Zinni is The Genuine Article. :thumbsup:

[elle1sf]

45. Who do I want? John Edwards...

Who do I think it SHOULD be?? Hillary Clinton. So, I voted for Hillary in this poll. Doubt it will be either of them, though.

[Warren DeMontague]

46. Feingold. Or Dodd. nt

Richardson, Schweitzer, Clark aren't bad either.

I'm warming to the idea of Biden.

[arewenotdemo]

47. Mark Warner

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

49. General Zinni. Senator Webb. Somebody Military.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

55. Here's my problem with Zinni...

The most important job of any Vice President is to be able to BECOME the President in the case of a national calamity. I don't see Zinni as being anywhere close to being presidential material. Webb and Clark, yes. Zinni? I don't think so.

[PassingFair]

50. Bob Graham, he could help us in Florida...

He's my number 1 pick...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Graham

[ecstatic]

51. I'm starting to think we may need a woman for the elderly women

Who want to see a woman pres or VP in their lifetime.

[musicblind]

52. Clinton for me

Then Edwards, Sebelius, and Biden. Not a big fan of Clark of Richardson as VP but I could live with them as choices. We have a good VP field. The one I DON'T want are VP's like Sam Nunn or Jim Webb.

[Yael]

53. I am sticking with Richardson

:thumbsup:

[publicatlarge]

54. About Wes Clark

He would be an excellent choice for Sec of Defense. Absolutely committed to the military at the level of the troops. One of his major achievements in the US Army was rebuilding and all volunteer army following the Viet Nam War. He is also a futurist and a tech guy, believes in a strong, regional diplomatic approach - and war as only a 'last, last, last resort'. The military needs his brilliance and loyalty. The technicality of the ten years out of military could be waived, I think - and he is almost there timewise anyhow.

For VP, I voted for Hillary Clinton.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

57. If he's not VP (my choice)...then definitely Secy of Defense (eom)

[PBS Poll-435]

56. Thrilled to see so much Hillary support

This is a result you wouldn't have seen in GDP V1.1

[Blondiegrrl]

58. First choice: Webb. Second choice: Schweitzer. n/t

[since72]

59. leaning towards Napolitano.

[DesertRat]

61. We need our governor to stay in Arizona!

And she's a very dull speaker.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

63. Great minds think alike. (n/t)

[jefferson_dem]

67. Yes, we do.

:hi:

Count me as in the Webb or Schweitzer camp.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

69. Honestly...

Webb isn't nearly as progressive as I'd like, but I think Obama/Webb would be a ticket hard to beat. And I'm desperate for victory! Wouldn't he appeal to the military, Reagan Democrats, and the Nascar crowd I hear so much about? That's a pretty huge "white male" demographic.

The wingnuts will try to smear Obama as a big, bad librul -- I think they'd have a tough time making "liberal" stick to Webb.

<insert Terrorist Fist Jab smilie here> (I thought someone created one!)

[Blondiegrrl]

71. Indeed. I'm admiring your Dean avatar.

I adore Dr. Dean.

[New Dawn]

60. ABC

Anyone But Clinton

[goldcanyonaz]

78. aww, you need help donating to this site?

[DaLittle Kitty]

64. Like the Nation Has Heard of Most of these People? Pick Edwards and We TAKE The SOUTH!

Any of these "DLC'ers" will take that CHANGE train right off the tracks and put it in the ash heap of history... right quick! :think:

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

65. Interesting lack of support for Edwards...

Don't know if this simply reflects his public "No Thanks" or if people really prefer others -- mostly Clark, at this point in the voting.

[jefferson_dem]

66. 1. Webb. 2. Schweitzer. 3. Biden. 4. Sebelius. 5. Bloomberg. 6. Clark.

Mine, in order of preference...

[goldcanyonaz]

76. Clinton never polled this well before the change over, why is she doing

this well now? Interesting

[MrSlayer]

77. Wes Clark.