Roof Falling In and We're Talking Glass Ceilings!

[DemocracyInaction]

The roof of this country is collapsing--oil that will never go back to "normal"; stagnant wages; lousy jobs; more people on fixed incomes with costs rising; etc.--no avenue back to the "shop 'til you drop" economy that is "the economy" of the US of A. A little more "Repub" ought to put the nail in the coffin...now look where we are:

We are waging war within the party about "glass ceilings". Well, when the roof collapses into the basement there are no ceilings left---glass or any other!

I think of those in 2000 who for moral pureness (they claimed), principal (they claimed), being rebuffed by the party (they claimed) said they were voting for Nader. Well, there are over 4,000 dead American soldiers for starters who really wished they had not done that! A vote for McCain will smash all "glass ceilings" from the top down instead of the bottom up.

[ladjf]

1. This is exactly what I have been thinking but couldn't figure out

how to saying it without getting "flamed" off of the board.

Further, there has basically been a coup in the goverment by Bush and his thugs. The Republicans must
be kicked out now before its too late to recover via elections. (If it isn't already.)

Thanks for you level headed post.

[TomInTib]

2. Well put. KnR

[Maddy McCall]

3. The 19th would never have passed, had not Paul and NWP utilized the...

"punish the party in power" strategy.

Maybe some women are sick of being taken for granted by their party. African Americans in the past have felt the same way, and made the same threats.

[hokies4ever]

5. Why are they threatening to vote for McCain instead of Cynthia McKinney?

Just some food for thought. I must warn you however, that if you think about it, you're not going to like the result.

[jonestonesusa]

22. Amen...

an African American liberal activist and 9/11 truth teller who speaks truth to power like few others...we lost her in Congress because the national party didn't have the guts to stand up for her.

But this is DU, and it's 2008. Go Dems!

[whistle]

4. Offer Hillary a seat on the Supreme Court, we should be able to dump one of the

...Bush appointees pretty quick on corruption, I'm thinking Scalia dump the bastard

[hokies4ever]

7. That's not how it works

Plus Scalia won't be leaving the Supreme Court until he passes away. Have you ever seen his Senate confirmation hearing? He came across as a very combative person who thinks that his opinion is God.

[whistle]

12. The man is mafia rooted, he can be outed

[hedgehog]

32. Forget that - impeach him for failing to recuse himself when he had a conflict of interest!

[hedgehog]

33. Forget that - impeach him for failing to recuse himself when he had a conflict of interest!

[Sparkly]

6. They aren't unrelated...

We have a chance now to break an important glass ceiling in electing Obama. That is important to everything else you've mentioned. In addition to his policies, a President Obama will encourage a new sense of empowerment among many and show a new view of America to the world.

Breaking glass ceilings is important! Let's do it!!

[hokies4ever]

8. It's referring to Hillary supporters threatening to vote for McCain

over the female glass ceiling.

[Sparkly]

9. Don't dismiss the importance of breaking glass ceilings.

There are more than one of them!! (That's the point, not "There are more important things than breaking glass ceilings.")

[hokies4ever]

10. Repair the roof or there won't be a glass ceiling to break

I think that's a better interpretation of it.

[Sparkly]

11. That makes them sound mutually exclusive.

That's my point. Breaking a glass ceiling is a PLUS.

[DemocracyInaction]

13. My post meant:

If republicans are elected because Dems are doing a circular firing squad on each other their will be NO GLASS CEILINGS TO BREAK---no Black need ever apply for office of presidency or anything above shoe shiner again; no woman need ever do the same, etc. Get them in for another umpteen year cycle and one the rich, white males will rule until they finally succeed in totally destroying this country.

[Sparkly]

15. I understood. I think the framing could use some work, that's all.

Nevermind. <sigh>

[Breeze54]

17. I don't agree. One does not represent the other. n/t

[JoFerret]

14. 36 million holes in a glass ceiling

is not to be sneezed at.

Social progress can be agonizingly slow.

But as Hillary said yesterday - the sense of what could have been had we had democrats in the WH and not Reagan and Bushes is not a cause for looking back but a cause for working forward.

[Breeze54]

16. So the term, 'glass ceiling' is now meaningless?

Apples and oranges? :shrug:

A vote for McLame will replace that cracked glass ceiling and make it even more difficult for women to rise above it.

[Fredda Weinberg]

18. I don't see the logic in that. Frankly, silly season was a working woman's

worst nightmare, but HRC did us proud. Me? I still have to battle in a board room.

[Breeze54]

21. I don't know what "silly season" is/was but women will be struggling, as usual. n/t

[Fredda Weinberg]

23. Silly season was the primary ... my way of staying @ DU despite the vituperative

comments. It could have gone better, frankly, but for me, a sense of humor is saving grace.

[Breeze54]

25. I don't think the primaries are silly at all. n/t

[DemocracyInaction]

19. Ummmm---that's what I said

I think you need to go read the original post again. We have no more glass ceilings to crack if we get more of the McSame back into our government. We have to unite or all the "glass ceiling" ambitions go plumeting straight for the basement along with the roof that will come crashing down on this country.

[Breeze54]

20. Yes we DO have glass ceilings to crack... McLame or no McLame. n/t

[Bread and Circus]

24. I 100% agree we have to support all dems in 2008, however Dems in general share blame

for a lot of the mess we are in. Esecially a lot of the DLC dems.

[Breeze54]

26. So, Rethugs are NOT to blame?

:wtf:

[wvbygod]

27. So, not one Dem vote for the war?

I really can't see anywhere that the poster said repubs were not to blame.

Here is the definition of "share" . . .
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:share&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

[Breeze54]

29. We've been through this, maybe you haven't but many fail to blame the GOP asswipes...

... just pointing it out.

133 DEMOCRATS did NOT vote for the IWR except Clinton and Obama.
Well; Obama voiced an opinion against war but he didn't have a vote.

1 repub and one independent did not vote for the IWR.

[wvbygod]

28. Umm, there really IS a glass ceiling and it was cracked greatly this time

That was a very uplifting statement by Hillary and it bears repeating more than belittling.

[Fredda Weinberg]

30. ..

[Apollo11]

31. OK so gender equality is not one of your top priorities

Number of men elected to the Presidency: 43 and counting

Number of women elected to the Presidency: 0

But, like you say, it's not something we should worry too much about ...

[hedgehog]

34. What is most important to the largest number of women: having a

female president or raising the minimum wage by $6 and hour and having decent affordable child care?

[Apollo11]

35. OK, I get it

But I still don't like your suggestion that gender equality is less important than economic issues.

If you look at developed countries around the world, having more women in positions of political power usually goes together with improving womens' rights (including poor womens' rights) and increasing the opportunities that are available to women and girls.

Otherwise we are saying to women: "Let the guys take care of things. Everything will be OK."

It would be a mistake to forget about the idea that "Sisters are doing it for themselves" ...

[Seabiscuit]

36. So... women's issues aren't worthy of consideration because so many other things

are a mess as well?

Bull.